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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:34 AM
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Why are these dumbasses publishing the Swift Boat against Hillary book now
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 07:39 AM by LynneSin
http://mediamatters.org/items/200504140004

Conservative publisher announces plans to "Swift Boat" Sen. Clinton

In recent days, a forthcoming book about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) titled The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President has gotten free advance publicity in major newspapers and on cable television, with several media outlets and figures already speculating -- some five months before the book is to be available -- that it will damage Clinton's much-speculated-about, but undeclared, presidential campaign.

On April 11, Internet gossip Matt Drudge (who once famously said "Screw journalism! The whole thing's a fraud anyway") posted an "**Exclusive**" calling the book "the ultimate Hillary-attack." Drudge claimed that a "source close to" author Edward Klein told him "The revelations in it should sink her candidacy."

The next day, The Washington Times devoted nearly 500 words to the book-in-the-making, claiming that a "new book could prove a roadblock to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's possible run for the White House in 2008 by promising revelations about the New York Democrat that could cast doubt among voters." Times reporter Jennifer Harper wondered, "So, could the book bring down Mrs. Clinton's candidacy before it begins?"

That evening, on MSNBC's Scarborough Country, host Joe Scarborough teased a segment on the book, which he hasn't read, by saying: "Its contents are top-secret, but the sources say the revelations inside could torpedo Hillary Clinton's chances at a run at the White House." He later added, "A lot of people believe a new book, which promises to be a tell-all about Hillary Clinton, will stop her in 2008." Though there is no indication the book is even finished yet, and won't be in bookstores until fall, Scarborough noted that it is "already raising eyebrows across the country." Scarborough didn't give any indication of how the unavailable-but-eyebrow-raising book might "stop" Clinton; in fact, he acknowledged that "since she has been in the U.S. Senate," Clinton has "played it pretty clean."




Talk about a premature ejaculation!! It looks like this book will come out sometime in the fall of 2005. That's one year before she has her re-election campaign for US Senate and THREE years before she could feasibly be running for US President (and for my money - it's all smoke & mirrors if you ask me). The success of the John Kerry book was it came out during his campaign stretch for president. Don't these asshats know that the public has the attention span of an ADHD gnat? Just last week I was at my local bookstore and there was the Swiftboat Kerry book - stacks of them and all on supersale because there was too many of them and no one wants to read them.

I highly doubt they'll find any more crap about Hillary that was falsified by earlier works of Dick Morris or Barbara Olsen. It'll be the same crap, reworded and repackaged and splish-splashed into the new "Swift Boats against Hilary" book.

I find that there will be a big ole (+) next to this book on the NYTimes best seller list and a few self storage facilities in Hobokon NJ filled with copies of this book.

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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:37 AM
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1. I was on a swift boat during the Vietnam War and I can tell you...
that Hillary Clinton NEVER saw combat and didn't earn any purple hearts. Bill O'Reilly was there though, and the medic who saved his life with a felafel was nominated for a Nobel Prize. ;)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:39 AM
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2. wait, I thought that was a Polk award
Damnit! It was a Polk!
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:38 AM
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18. Sure it wasn't a Peabody?
No wait, its the Daily Show that has two of them, bet that really frosts his loofah.


http://www.kliljedahl.net


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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:42 AM
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7. Oh yes she did! And she gunned down harmless Vietnamese kids
Playing on the riverbank. And LAUGHED about it. Then finagles her way to six Purple Hearts AND the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:01 AM
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11. Don't Forget that She Also
sat on a North Vietcong anti-aircraft battery and, unlike Jane Fonda, she actually shot down American pilots. One of which is John McCain who, although he respects and admires her, he just can't support her for president.

The book also points out that it was Hillary who was in the "Grassy Knoll" in Dallas that fateful November day. This was after her hot threesome love affair with Lee Harvey Oswald and an un-named woman, who has signed an affidavit...and as Sean Hannity has repeatedly told his listeners, "people don't just "willy-nilly" sing affidavits". We need to investigate. Just exactly where was Hillary on the fateful day in November. Some reportedly saw her in Dallas that day. They never said anything until it was brought to their attention that she may have had a nefarious purpose for being there. They had forgotten all about it until one day they read a news story that she was running for president.

It is also common knowledge, as we have affidavits, that Hillary actually snuck into the white-house and planted tape recording devices. These tapes helped bring down that great man Richard Nixon. She even purportedly set up the whole break-in at the Watergate in an effort to embarrass the Nixon administration.

It's time people learned the truth about this woman. After being born illegitimately as a result of a satanic ritual, she shed her skin and for 50 years now has had her sights on destroying this country and giving all our children to the Chinese.

Please help us stop her. Send money to......
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:21 AM
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13. She's also who made Lennon quit the Beatles... not Yoko n/t
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:35 AM
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17. Yes
and

-she broke up Prince Charles and Diana's marriage
-caused Rush to start using painkillers
-went back in time and gave birth to Hitler
-tempted Jesus in the desert
-gave the apple to Adam
-created reality TV


These people. It they weren't so scary and on Faux news everynight, they would be funny.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:41 AM
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3. You Mean 'They' Have Been Holding Back _Something_ To Use Against Her?!?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:41 AM
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4. i see rove's fingerprints
heavy media hype to a right wing book damageig to the person they fear most
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:42 AM
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5. Well, I just read that Newtie thinks Hillary can win in 08
It was in yesterday's NYT. Obviously they want to start a jihad against her. This signals to me that they're afraid, very afraid..:)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:42 AM
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6. 06 Elections! Try & Defeat Her Here In NY & Use Her As A Scare Tactic
elsewheres.

Why Hillary? Cause they have nothing positive to offer.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:44 AM
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8. But I still think they're blowing their load to early
New York is a strong liberal state where the bulk of the population has a pretty strong IQ. They're going to see through all this crap. And for the rest of the state, if this book comes out in the fall of 2005 it'll be old news by January of 2006 - plenty of time for recovery before Hillary's re-election
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:48 AM
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9. O'neill was old (discredited) news in 2004, yet somehow he was on TV
constantly foaming at the mouth unchallenged.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:40 AM
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15. Well the MSM didn't constantly repeat....
When O'Neill was about to burst into tears on Nightline, after he was exposed as a liar about Kerry's record.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:12 AM
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19. O'Neil was discredited news in 1971
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 10:19 AM by karynnj
He was totally destroyed by Kerry on the Dick Cavett show. Kerry very effectively defended his Senate testimony against O'Neil. Before this the Senate FR committee and most of the press were incredibly impressed with his honesty and integrity. O'Neil was arguing their were no (or few) war crimes after Mi Lai was common knowledge.

Kerry when asked specifically about the swiftboats listed things, that while not dramatic atrocities, were against international law. O'Neil agreed there were these things but asked by what reason did Kerry think they were against international law - Kerry's response was something like, "the Geneva Conventions, heard about them"

This last year, O'Neil hit Kerry on his war record - Kerry did debunk the charges, but even without that they were so illogical no one should have believed that 35 years after the fact there was reason to dispute them - when Nixon found nothing wrong here.

I'm still amazed that anyone could take the war accusations seriously. To believe them, you need to hypothesize:
(1) that one swift boat captain, who no one liked, wrote reports in which he made himself out to be a hero.
(2)His commander then took his report (ignoring the more mundane accounts of the other captains) and submitted the unlikable LT, Jr grade for medals rather than for a psychiatric test.
(3)The medals were publicly given to the the Lt, Jr grade on two different occasions - and none of the others complained even though one of the medals was the highest award that was given in that time period in that unit.
(4)When he left they gave him a plum assignment doing what he wanted to do where he wanted to be and which required a higher security clearance than he had in Vietnam. (As his superiors had to fill out the paperwork for this, they had to attest to Kerry's good character.)
(5)He re-created these feats on film, presumably taking them back into VC territory, risking their lives for his vanity and for some reason his crew didn't complain or mutiny. (and no one has ever seen these re-creations.)


All That aside, he did hurt Kerry by openning questions where there really weren't any (the war record) and making Kerry and company waste valuable time fighting this. For Hillary, having some of the charges out in ther open 3 years early may make it easier, but the disgusting swiftboaters are still attacking Kerry. For a candidate other than Hillary, having the charges out 3 years early could destroy them, as they would have even less visibility from which to respond then Kerry did.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:59 AM
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10. We're Dabbling In the Metaphysical Now
A book which doesn't exist yet will sink a candidacy that hasn't been declared yet.

But I've got bad news for them. I'm going to write a review about the book which will completely discredit it. Report THAT shit, Drudge!

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:12 AM
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12. Let them waste as much time and money as they want
on fighting an imaginary campaign. In the end, Hillary's use as a lightning rod may turn out to be her most valuable service to the Democratic Party.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:24 AM
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14. I've always thought that "Hillary for Prez" was a bit of a scam by dems
not a bad one but actually - a pretty good one when you think about it.

These repuke idiots are spending millions to defraud a woman who has never once declared her intentions to be president of the United States (at least to the public). But I still honestly think that Hillary may suprise us all by not running. But instead she's the decoy - let the repukes waste time & money on her and we dems will spend our time & money on getting the real candidate who will win on the ticket
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:59 AM
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16.  Foaming-at -the-mouth Repukes are chasing their tails. Hillary's a decoy.
Let 'em spend plenty over the next 4 years.
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