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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:58 AM
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US Military recruiting 14 year olds. Watch your kids closer. We are
going to be a war for several decades thanks to Bushco. They can go behind parents back until they talk the kids into signing up. They pay the kids $2500 a year from age 14 on up. But it's future pay and if they kids don't show up for duty they have to pay 1/2 back. And these kids are going to war. What is wrong with out country. It gets more unbelievable every day. Maybe we should send all the male children to schools in foreign countries.

http://www.pointblank-dm.com/archive/2005/mar/033105/cover.shtml





And while waiting to report to duty at 18, the new recruits are paid a modest stipend and allowed access to funds granted veterans for education. Because combat duty is a requirement of enlistment, the program is currently open only to young men, and it has been authorized for only three years, so Congress will have to renew the program again in 2008.

"We're going to appeal to the patriotism of parents," says Pederson. "Parents have to understand that their children are needed in a time of war and that sacrifices need to be made for the good of the nation."

After he signed the paperwork, however, Bloomer took a closer look at the contract and was even more disturbed by what she learned. The small print reveals that the $350 monthly stipend her son receives is actually an advance on his $250 per month combat pay and $100 per month hardship duty pay.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:18 AM
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1. I wonder how many of Pederson's kids are to be "sacrificed"?
Since Bloomer's son is getting an advance, I believe that would indicate that he'll either be fighting for less pay later or maybe even none...
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:21 AM
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2. er This article is a hoax.
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:22 AM
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4. How can you tell its a hoax ? n/t
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:33 AM
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9. These guys figured it out a week ago:
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:23 AM
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5. How can you tell its a hoax ? n/t
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:21 AM
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3. That is one of the most disgusting things I`ve ever read!!
Poor kids wanting xbox sign their life away to become cannon fodder.
I literally got ill reading that.
Thanks however for the heads up.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:23 AM
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6. Fuck this war
If bush wants his liars war~why don't boosh and his buddies and the neocons brats go fight it themselves...then. If there is a draft there needs to be MASSIVE refusals to go along with it. Vulnerable people feel stronger and more able to resist authority in numbers. Hell anything bush does is FRAUD.Don't fight for a fraud no matter how much they lie say stuff you wanna hear,how much they seduce the parents,wave the flag and thump bible or use scare stories or use pre planned manufactured"attacks" to convince us they need every child they can get to die.. they throw at us.. Don't be a gun in a human suit for NOBODY'S urgings. Even if you follow orders ultimately it is always YOUR CONSCIENCE that makes the decision to participate in mass murder.The Bush admin can't make anyone do shit for them if you refuse to trust them,refuse to be intimidated or bribed refuse refuse to do what they say,or follow their rules,or play their game their way.If you refuse to kill people or follow orders than no one dies,in a war and you have no blood on your hands you won't be killing someones kids,mother,sister,brother, son or father or relative who may be in a similar scared,confused,exploited or desperate situation as yourself..No innocents die in crossfire when no one is shooting.
Ever wonder why vets get PSTD? Why they turn to drugs or booze and fall out with their families and die on the street?

WAR is an EVIL SCAM and it scars your soul forever.


Hmm on second thought... why not sign up all the republicans,and bullies that'll help the nation purge itself of assholes,get rid of the manipulating rich kids, the senators kids, and get rid if your local fanatics,theocratic idiots and brownshirts... All the liberals,freaks punks gays,pagans and other ,freedom loving people who have integrity and a conscience can just stay home!Our country will become saner and more peaceful for it.A study someone put up on DU awile ago spoke of Ape colonies. It said when all the aggressive alpha male apes were killed off,they colony was different socially it was peaceful,everything changed with the bullies dead. I think this bully purge could apply to our nation....

Save America recruit a bully,fanatic control freak,abuser or a con man ,or gung ho military fan and armchair general today! Maybe if these gung ho dicks and assholes get themselves killed,there will be less war mongers and thieves to get into power...
Just a thought..
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:27 AM
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7. There is something just not right with this story
Its not that I don't believe its possible but highly unlikely. Why would you wait four years to get a hold of a kid. Then they say they are paying them advances on their combat pay and hardship pay. Well you only get that if you are in combat or facing hardship. Which means in 4 years Iraq could be over and unless he is stationed in South Korea he wont get hardship pay. If you could find another link that is from a more reliable source I would like to read it. Something just smacks of BS about this story.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:38 AM
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11. I agree, BS all the way.
They claim over 10,000 kids are signed up already, but no one has heard of this?
And if IOWA is 'second highest' with 94 enrolees, then which state has the 5,000?

Their dates don't match up; just looks like BS all around.

I fail to see the point of writing this.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:45 AM
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13. After reading I smelled a rat
I have no idea why they wrote this. Bush does enough in real life to make people hate him without making anything up.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:30 AM
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8. This is monstrous. eom
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American in Asia Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:37 AM
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10. Bastards...
As a parent, I am so enraged I can barely sit still...

Some of those quotes were simply mind-blowing. That they would prey on CHILDREN - God, I'm furious...

"The program is still in the early stages, but we're certain it will prove a valuable tool for the U.S. military while providing future soldiers with much-needed financial assistance so they can start planning for the future now," says Lt. James Pederson"


Yeah - you tell me how much wise planning for the future your average 14 year old will do with this money? This is sheer trickery, bribery, coercion, and they play it like they're doing our young people a FAVOR?

"We've had to become more and more creative in our efforts to fill the ranks of departing soldiers, and that's meant reaching out to new target groups and making them offers they simply can't refuse."


Yeah, bastard - you can't get sensible grown men to sign up for your illegal wars, so you want to make a CHILD an offer he can't refuse and then hold him to it, under legal penalties, when he finally IS old enough to enter into legal contracts freely?

"It's an important tool to reach these kids before they are influenced by outside forces who lack understanding of the U.S. military's worldwide goals," he adds. "These kids understand the need for a strong military and haven't had their thoughts corrupted by unpatriotic ideas."


Yeah -- brainwash them early!

"We will most definitely be at war with someone for the next decade, at least," he says. "And our recruitment programs are an effort to ensure the safety of all American citizens and to protect the American way of life."


No shit - nice to see you admit it though....

"And once these kids sign up under this program, they are committed to serving in a combat zone and face strict punishment if they refuse duty when they come of age. If any refuse to show up for duty they will be charged with desertion in a time of war and be subject to military court martial, which, theoretically at least, could result in the death penalty."


Mind blowing - just speechless -



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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:45 AM
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12. Wow, you guys will believe anything.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:46 AM
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14. Recruiters also eat babies! (nt)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:49 AM
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15. What kind of parent would sell their child to the military at 14?
Who are these monsters and maybe they should be on trial for child abuse.
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