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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 04:58 PM
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Here's an email I got from a co-worker. I don't know what to say about it.
Ten Truths:

10 TRUTHS BLACK AND HISPANIC PEOPLE KNOW, BUT WHITE
PEOPLE WON'T ADMIT:

1. Elvis is dead.
2. Jesus was not white.
3. Rap music is here to stay.
4. Kissing your pet is not cute or clean.
5. Skinny does not equal sexy.
6. Thomas Jefferson had black children.
7. A 5 year old child is too big for a stroller.
8. N'SYNC will never hold a candle to the Jackson 5.
9. An occasional BUTT whooping helps a child stay in line.
10. Having your children curse you out in public is not normal.

10 TRUTHS BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE KNOW, BUT HISPANIC
PEOPLE WON'T ADMIT:

1. Hickey's are not attractive.
2. Chicken is food, not a roommate.
3. Jesus is not a name for your son.
4. Your country's flag is not a car decoration.
5. Maria is a name but not for every daughter.
6. Jump out and run is not in any insurance policies.
7. 10 people to a car is considered too many.
8. Buttoning just the top button of your shirt is a bad fashion
statement.
9. Mami and Papi can't possibly be the nickname of every person
in your family.
10. Letting your children run wildly through the store is not
normal.

10 TRUTHS WHITE AND HISPANIC PEOPLE KNOW, BUT BLACK
PEOPLE WON'T ADMIT:

1. O.J. did it.
2. Tupac is dead.
3. Teeth should not be decorated.
4. Weddings should start on time.
5. Your pastor doesn't know everything.
6. Jesse Jackson will never be President.
7. RED is not a Kool Aid flavor, it's a color.
8. Church does not require expensive clothes.
9. Crown Royal bags are meant to be thrown away.
10. Your rims and sound system should not be worth more than
your car.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 04:59 PM
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1. mail some barf in a bag
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:00 PM
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2. I'd say that no matter what the race of the person reading it is
It is bound to be offensive. Maybe the original author was just trying to hit all the bases on offensiveness.

A co-worker sent this? If you're comfy doing it, I'd send an email back suggesting that it is inappropriate for a workplace.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. The woman that sent it is hispanic.
I am surprised she would send this out to people. I guess she thinks it's funny?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Offensively funny?
:shrug: I don't get it. Maybe my offensive-humor switch is off today.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
42. She always sends different emails and I always see them addressed
to about 15+ people. Some within the company and some outside. I actually don't feel that she realizes what she is doing. She is not prejudiced, she just doesn't think.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #42
50. If she sees humor in that she IS prejudiced!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #50
54. I think all people are prejudiced one way or another.
A moral person fights off racism thoughts..
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #54
65. 100% correcto!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #4
18. There is a faction of Mexicans that do not like Black people and think
that the United States is Northern Mexico.. this is true, i am not speaking about all of them, but.. I know some of them and have been insulted and/or threatened by them.

as far back as the 60's it, is nothing new to me. i worked in the fields in California and was bullied by militant Mexicans who used a slogan in Spanish.. "California is Mine!!" their plan then was to invade and over populate till they were the majority..

the standard of living in Mexico for the 'Haves' is second only to France. Mexico is exporting their poverty to the USA to raise their standard of living, and subsidize their GNP with BILLIONS of US dollars sent back from the Migrants.. this is the LARGEST migration of people in the history of the world.. and 17 MILLION migrants DO take our JOBS, housing and cost BILLIONS to educate their children and provide free medical care. i paid $65 dollars a month from my property taxes in elpaso TX to provide free medical care for Mexico, and it was estimated that there were about 28,000 Mexican children being educated on our property taxes there.. and they drove down the wages and availer jobs to where the Mean income in elapse was $14,000 a year.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
41. Your co-worker is a dipshit. I'd forward that shit to the boss.
Then ask the fucking boss if he/she thinks the shit is funny.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
38. It does sound inapropriate for a workplace
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 06:27 PM by alarimer
I am sure the company has rules. You should forward it to those responsible for enforcing the rules and tell the coworker you did so.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
49. I've done this in the past
someone sent me a very anti-democrat, pro-republican diatribe, passing it off as good clean humor. (he's a co-worker).

I replied and told him to keep his political lies to himself - and I cc: his boss and my boss.

Funny, it never has happened since.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. What to say
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 05:01 PM by Horse with no Name
other than some of these 'isms can be considered funny, but overall it is sterotypical racist.
:shrug:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:03 PM
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6. I am Hispanic and have never had a chicken for a
roommate although now that I think about it, a chicken would have been better than some roommates I have had.

Seriously though, I have had coworkers or friends send me stuff like this. What I do is e-mail them back and ask them not to send me racial jokes because I do not care for them. This guy did this at work I am guessing? In a lot of companies (like the one I work for) you could get in a lot of trouble if someone complained about it.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #6
52. You cracked me up about the chicken thing
that was one of the few 'jokes' that went over my head. Unless you correct me I have to assume it went over your head too!
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:04 PM
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7. If she used the company e-mail to send this...
...then advise her not to send this kind of shit. It's kinda racist, even though it "hits all sides" of the argument.
She could lose her job (provided she did use the company e-mail system, and your company is understanding when someone's offended by this kind of e-mail.)
It kind of reminds me of that former NFL player who said this kind of thing a while ago...don't remember the name, though. (Reggie White?)
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. R.I.P. Reggie White
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Eep. I totally forgot that.
Thanks for the info.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
8. You respond by hitting delete or, if you don't get business
emails from her, hit junk so all future emails from her go to your spam folder.
The email is not worthy of the time required to read or write a response.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:05 PM
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9. A little too edgy for a co-worker
Things that a stand up might say, with better delivery, just raises questions from anyone else.

In other words, you don't know how much of this is a joke.

But if anything, I would just say that: "Don't send this stuff around in writing because somebody's going to misunderstand."
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:10 PM
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10. I could get a co-worker fired
for the email she sent me last week. I deleted it. Too offensive to have around...but the least offensive was how Clinton really was our "first black president" because he doesn't have a job, lives off his wife's paycheck, and like to screw ugly white women. The rest was such racist drivel I quit reading and threw away. I felt tainted by the association. I don't know why she sends me this junk.
But if our owners saw it, that would be it. That hate the "jokey" racist/sexist stuff. Hate it.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Truth...
I can't think of any employer I've had since the mid 80s -- or client for that matter -- who wouldn't dismiss immediately for disseminating that piece.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:10 PM
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12. The one about white people wasn't too bad - except the spanking part
The rest of it was disgusting except this one: "Your country's flag is not a car decoration."
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:11 PM
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13. seems like there are a lot of white people that don't know this one:
4. Your country's flag is not a car decoration.
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BrewerJohn Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Or this one
5. Your pastor doesn't know everything.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:17 PM
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17. Wow, egalitarian bigotry.
All those statements are so loaded in stereo-types that I'm surprised they stopped there.

I notice that Asians and gays are missing.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:21 PM
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19. Shit, I'm white and I knew all those things
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 05:26 PM by shadowknows69
;-)


edit, obviously I'm kidding but It's slightly humorous just the same. Hey admit it people some stereotypes are closer to the truth than is politically correct to say. All races need to be able to laugh them off unless they're used in a malicious way against them. Me? I'm a fat beer drinking German and proud of it. Never killed a Jew though. :hippie:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. Look closer: The ones about white people were the least offensive
In my opinion, at least.

The nastiest stereotype in the white one is that we let our kids cuss us out in public.

Any of us could come up with nastier things to say about white people if we wanted to.

But none of the things "white people should know" were anywhere near as offensive as living with chickens.

How many "white trash" jokes have we heard that would be as bad as some of the digs against Hispanics and Blacks?

Oh, Elvis is dead and N'Sync sucks... giggle giggle... that's cute. But hey, Hispanic people live with chickens!

It seems to me that the things about white people are just a cover to make it look like equal-opportunity good fun.

I don't think it is.

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #23
30. Um, there are hispanic people who live with chickens.
You should visit some of the smaller farm towns in the San Joaquin valley (where I live). I actually had a Mexican neighbor who kept about 15 chickens in his backyard and occasionally slaughtered them. We finally had to call the city and have him nailed for zoning violations to get rid of them...the smell of chicken crap was GROSS.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Something Blacks and Hispanics know but whites don't
Breeding with family members does not automatically make you royalty.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
61. I'm not hispanic and have a pet chicken
Henrietta is a charming friend and sometimes we let her in the house. Except for house training, she is a fine pet. And she lives in her own box outside.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #23
43. That's the first thing I thought also.
For the whites it is the least offensive. I plan to call her on Monday and let her know how I feel and that she shouldn't send emails out like that to people at work.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #23
46. Agreed.
Trying to include lame "insults" about white people doesn't justify the blatant racism in the remarks about black and hispanic people.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:25 PM
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20. It's funny.
It's a joke, what's the big deal? A lot of stereotypes do have some basis in reality else they wouldn't be stereotypes. Nothing here to get in a snit over.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. I don't know.
I'm Hispanic. I know a lot of Hispanics. My community has a large Hispanic population. I have traveled throughout South America and yet I have never met any one whose roomate was a chicken. They keep their chickens in the yard or a coop just like the white people do.

Yes, this was a very cheap shot.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #20
39. Name one fucking item that is based in reality.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #39
55. Please.
I'm not saying everything is 100% true about every single member of the races. But there are individuals and groups within them that do fit the description. Are you going to tell me there aren't goofy white hicks out there that think Elvis is still alive or that some African Americans don't ask for "red" Kool Aid as a flavor choice or that some Hispanics don't wear their shirts with only the top button buttoned? Gimmie a break with the hypersensitivity, certain things are part of certain cultures and it's fun to poke fun at them.

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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. No fucking breaks here.
There are people in every motherfucking race that do those same behaviors. Whites ask for "red" KoolAid. Blacks think Elvis is alive. Latins let their children cuss at them in public. The behavior is not specific to a goddamn race.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. Whatever.
Rage on. I'll laugh at the joke because I get it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. I have never heard of anyone asking for red as a flavor.
But I have heard some axe for something.:-)
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:27 PM
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21. tell your friend that, all and all, you still vote for and stand with the
RAINBOW PEOPLE, that is, people of all colors, all different backgrounds, all sorts of different ways of doing things...all different ways of understanding life and its meaning.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. I'm multi colored from way back
dawn of time to be exact.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. you must have a rich heritage to fall back upon...
from cooking, to looking at art, to listening to music, to understanding life--perhaps with such a multicolored background from way back you could say that the way you look at, and experience life, is in itself STEREOSCOPIC.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
37. some smart gents named
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young once said

"We have all been here before"
-Deja Vu
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:35 PM
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24. I think this is funny. And just because non-whites
are mentioned does not make it racists.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:00 PM
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27. This stuff is funny... don't be overly sensitive!
Jeeze. These are funny. Really, there is always a little bit of truth behind stereotypes, or else they would not be stereotypes... Only someone overly anal would consider these racist. These are just downright funny!
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. or maybe someone who is simply human might think it's offensive?
sheesh.

only someone who's racist would not consider these racist.

(that's how offensive I found your remark, tit for tat)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. I'm not overly senstive;
It's just that these are unfunny jokes. If someone came on stage and trying telling this shit, they'd be boo'd off.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
28. since when don't white people decorate their cars with the flag?
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 06:04 PM by xchrom
:shrug:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:13 PM
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31. Since I'm white, I'll check out the first list:
10 TRUTHS BLACK AND HISPANIC PEOPLE KNOW, BUT WHITE
PEOPLE WON'T ADMIT:

1. Elvis is dead.

I'll admit it--he's dead.

2. Jesus was not white.

I'll admit it--he wasn't white.

3. Rap music is here to stay.

This isn't something you can admit or not admit. Here to stay for all eternity? You'd have to LIVE that long to say so.

4. Kissing your pet is not cute or clean.

That's an opinion, not a fact. I kiss my pet, if someone doesn't like it they can kiss my butt.

5. Skinny does not equal sexy.

To some people it does. To some people it doesn't. How can I admit or not admit this one?

6. Thomas Jefferson had black children.

Did he? I guess.

7. A 5 year old child is too big for a stroller.

Unless that five year old weighs 30 pounds. But generally, true.

8. N'SYNC will never hold a candle to the Jackson 5.

Again another opinion. I'm nuetral on both, how's that?

9. An occasional BUTT whooping helps a child stay in line.

Mmmm, have to say generally no. It teaches them it's ok to hit, as long as you are bigger than the person you are hitting. There are better ways to teach.

10. Having your children curse you out in public is not normal.

Of course it's not normal, who said it was???
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #31
48. LOL! I like your answer to number 4.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:14 PM
Response to Original message
32. This was in the list of things white and Hispanic people know
but black people won't admit:

Crown Royal bags are meant to be thrown away.


My husband keeps those, gives them to our daughter to hold marbles and rocks in and such. She loves them. :shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. I used to use them to hold my Dungeons & Dragons dice
Ian makes a savings-throw against geekiness... and fails!

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
63. So I roll, and the alien morphs into a chicken.
Cluck, cluck. Oops, mixed gaming systems here.
Traveller player.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
36. Another ignorant fucking chain mail.
Anyone who thinks they're funny or cute is fucked up.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:31 PM
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40. Cat, I'm a latina and thought this was hilarious. This is why.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 06:33 PM by sfexpat2000
We all take ourselves too seriously.

We all think our way is right and everyone else is strange.

We all look for people to agree with that, even if that's "them". lol

Hey -- My people are too respectful to kick chickens out! When I worked on a ranch, a chicken used to come in through my open office window every day, scoot across the sill and lay an egg on my bookcase. After some really good skat singing.

Did I ever close the window or try to kick her out? Infamia! I was brought up to be more polite than that.

:)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
51. I really don't mind the email but I wouldn't ever send it out because
there just may be someone that is offended by it and I especially wouldn't send it out from work. I am home now and re-read the one about blacks and some of them made me chuckle...

2. Tupac is dead.

I'll have to ask my niece because just last year she still thought he was still alive.:-)

3. Teeth should not be decorated.

I definitely agree about that. I have only seen black folks with those gold crowns in the front.:-)

4. Weddings should start on time.

That's funny. I hear people say all the time don't come on black folks time.:-)

10. Your rims and sound system should not be worth more than
your car.

That's more of a early twenties thing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #51
60. You're right. Not from work,
But you know, the funniest thing is, is shows how a group of people will hook up with another group they don't agree with -- against a third group!

Sort of like, 7th grade!

That's what really made me laugh.

cheers,
Beth
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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:00 PM
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44. I would ask for more!
I would ask for more e-mails from this person.
They obviously have a balanced sense of humor and won't bitch, moan, RUN TO THE BOSS WHINING, or sue you if you 'offend' them.
But other posts here are correct.
Risky sending this out on business e-mail - there are soooooo many whiny bitchy worthless people that would love to bust you over it.
Ask them to send them to your home e-mail from their home.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:00 PM
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45. Just send her back an email that says
FIVE THINGS EMPLOYEES OF XYZ COMPANY SHOULD KNOW BUT YOU WON'T ADMIT

1. RACIAL JOKES ARE NOT FUNNY
2. RACIAL JOKES ARE CRUDE AND OFFENSIVE
3. RACIAL JOKES ONLY DISPLAY THE IGNORANCE OF THOSE WHO SHARE THEM
4. COMPANY EMAIL IS FOR BUSINESS USE ONLY
5. IF I WERE TO FORWARD THIS TO YOUR SUPERVISOR YOU COULD LOSE YOUR JOB
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New Dealer Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:03 PM
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47. I laughed
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:25 PM
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53. Kinda dumb
I like edgy humor, but this falls short for me. Just not that funny. I'd rather watch Jerry Springer, really. Better job with the stereotypes, and white folks don't get off so easy.
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R. A. Fuqua Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:35 PM
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58. this is so offensive that I
do not even think it should have been posted here.

I know you wanted to show us how horrible it was--but it is in such poor taste that I honestly do not think it should be displayed at all on a progressive site such as this one.

I am sorry you have to deal with such a slimy co-worker.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:59 PM
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64. Well I'll let the moderators decide if the thread should be locked.
My coworker is not slimy. Like I said above, she just didn't think.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:11 PM
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62. .
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