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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:15 PM
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Hotel Rwanda: My review
I was somewhat disappointed in this movie. Don Cheadle's performance was exemplary(as always)but I felt not enough attention was paid to the brutal genocide that was being committed and the lack of Western compassion. Maybe I was expecting a more documentary type treatment, I don't know. The movie seemed to be a re-enactment of Schindler's List in that it focused on one "connected" man's struggle to save the lives of hundreds while millions of his countrymen were being slaughtered. Not only that but they have to tack on a Hollywood ending? And the film is ten years too late. What are we to draw from this?

At one point in the film Cheadle's character tells his audience that they must shame the West into intervening on humanitarian grounds and he is right. This movie, however, does not go far enough to achieving that goal.

In this day and age, poetry and imagery just won't cut it. You've got to slap them in the face with it.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:24 PM
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1. And....
And I thought the film played
too much music over too many
scenes.

Natural sounds enhance films.

Too much music is noise.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:29 PM
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2. I have to respectfully disagree...
I thought that the genocide was graphically depicted in the foggy road scene where they thought the road was bumpy only to get out of the car and see that they were running over hundreds of bodies.

Also, I found myself almost holding my breath waiting and hoping for the US and UN to come rescue these people from the hotel and to stop the genocide. Of course, too little, too late. Made me mad.

At the end of the film and for weeks after, I was shaken. I am so glad that I am more educated about this situation.

I also liked the HBO movie about this situation. It was very good also.
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:33 PM
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3. Hey that's cool
but why make that scene foggy?
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:37 PM
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4. I don't know, probably so they couldn't see that
they were running over bodies instead of just riding on a bumpy road. Maybe it really happened that way...maybe it was for dramatic effect.
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:43 PM
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10. I was expecting the graphic depiction of genocide somewhere along the l
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 11:46 PM by NNguyenMD
lines of what was shown on the Pianist with Adrien Brody, but it was much less than that. I thought it was a good film, but as someone who's read a decent amount about Rwanda, I too feel it pulled its punches with regard to what little response the world gave to dying Africans.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:42 PM
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5. I didn't see it when it came out on the screen
but I know I must watch it now that it is out at the video store.
I agree though that it seems to be many years late in telling the story, but isn't that how it goes...
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:56 PM
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6. I think it was the best movie of the year.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 10:58 PM by Radical Activist
It wasn't a documentary, it was a movie. That means it had to entertain as well as inform. Having a story of hope and courage in the midst of so much despair and the worst of human behavior is a smart and compelling approach. Yes, I they could have beaten people over the head with it and made people so depressed they wanted to kill themselves, but that wouldn't have made a very good movie.

You got the message of the movie and I doubt anyone missed it. Sometimes a message is much more effective when its a little bit subtle.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:57 PM
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7. I can see that
When they were driving along the river road, I kept saying to myself, "please don't show the river, please don't show the river washed with blood and bodies" (I couldn't take it-it's still too vivid in my mind from the original news stories)....but when they didn't...as horrid as those "bumps" were (and I knew what what they were driving over) then back to the hotel...I thought...NO! Show the river!!!!! People MUST see the river!!!!

Again with the film footage when the photo-journalist(after defying the reporter) was showing the tape to the "reporter" wouldn't leave the hotel.. and the tape didn't fully depict the horror and the madness .I'm screaming...NO!!! You must show this!...Really show this....not just a "hint"...REALLY SHOW THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE and show a lot of it. People MUST know. They MUST see. They must FEEL the machetes cutting into flesh! They MUST feel the terror!

I know it was a movie and not a documentary....but the horror...the sheer horror needed to be seen...Yes...to slap people across the face with it. To slap them hard.


It seems if an event makes governments (most certainly plural) look bad, time is always given a chance to pass before attention is brought to it...This should have been made 10 years ago (I agree)...by waiting they've allowed people to view and say "that's in the past...it was horrible, but still the past"...so the viewing is filtered for them through "things we can not do about the past"...like it's easier for people to watch if they can not feel guilty at the same time....I think it's deliberate and manipulation to wait.

If that makes sense...

like time somehow puts any of it into perspective (when it was 100& clear to begin with..genocide always is clear and the who could have done what are always clear)...as if time somehow changes the truth and the reality... like it makes it easier to accept...

it only served to make people feel comfortable about not paying attention when it was happening. they can watch it...and go back to their dinners. (to borrow a phrase) just like when it was actually happening

"Oh yes, that was bad...those poor people....pass the meat, please."

I cried before the movie actually started...I cried throughout the movie...for so many reasons.

But in the end, I wanted it to be more "real"...because I want people to feel shame for what happened in Rwanda...the world keeps saying "never again"...and it keeps happening....(Sudan)

Recall that line from the UN guy, played by Nolte...at the bar when talking to "Paul" and Nolte's character said you should "spit in my face"..and then went on to explain why...I wondered how many people would not have gotten his statement had it not been written into the dialogue....that the writers had to put it in there for people to understand...even though without it, it was still "obvious" why humans were being written off that way.

Thanks for your post and sorry for the rambling






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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:01 PM
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8. Oh, I forgot to mention that I thought it was really important
that the "Hate Radio" was playing in the background almost the whole time and the effect it had in insighting the genocide. I believe we have hate radio in this country, could the same thing happen here?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:02 PM
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9. excellent point!
I think that was intentional on many levels and directed at just more than what was happening in the movie
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:44 PM
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11. Quote from Paul Rusesabagina to a German magazine after the movie was made
I saw Hotel Rwanda a few days ago and picked up this quote the person who the story is based on Paul Ruseabagina made to a German magazine on his thoughts about the Western wolrd, UN, and African Nations' response to the genocide in Rwanda.

“The United Nations abandoned these people who came begging to them for help...When the UN soldiers were leaving, children begged to be taken with them, otherwise they would be killed. But instead of taking them, do you know what they did? They evacuated the dogs of foreigners in Kigali. Do you know what that says to me? The life of a European dog is worth more than a Rwandan human being.”
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:05 AM
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12. If driving down a road in the dark and going over countless bumps
only to be discovered that those bumps that paved that road were the massacred, and if that didn't depict the genocide, I don't know what would.

It was an excellent movie and although about the horrific events in Rwanda, it was a story about how one human being did make a difference.

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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:53 AM
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13. Dunno.
I homeschool. I want my kids to value life.

My kids sometimes ask why people are so mean.

I don't know what to say.

I don't want to "slap my kids in the face with it."

They're puzzled that people can be mean.

All I can tell them is DON'T BE THAT WAY.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:05 AM
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14. See "Sometimes In April"
HBO movie. It'll be out on DVD soon. While it's not a true story, like "Hotel Rwanda," it seemed to get the horror of what happened--and what we failed to do--to a greater extent.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:46 AM
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15. I hate to admit
as a former history teacher, that I'm really not up on the history of the Rwanda genocide.

Can someone give me a capsule description?

What did the one group have against the other group? Was there an incident to start the thing, or was it just tribal warfare?

Did the two sides live geographically separated from each other, or was it a rising in many areas of people living together?

Any help?
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 02:09 AM
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16. It Can Be A Little Confusing...
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 02:09 AM by The Great Escape
the Tutsi's were apparently later arriving in the region than the Hutus. The Tutsi's tended to be more commercially oriented than the Hutus. When the Germans colonized the region they elevated the minority Tutsis above the Hutus. The Belgians continued this after they took over the colony following WWI. I think the Europeans considered the Tutsis more regal than the Hutus. I think this is the beginning of much of the animosity. The Hutus had ruled the country since the Belgians left. The sectarian violence has been almost continuous. Of course the level of violence did not compare to the bloodbath in '94. The Tutsi dominated RPF launched attacks on the country from Angola and eventually the RPF not the West ended the genocide. Shamefully, on France's part, their seems to be a great deal of collusion between themselves and the Hutu government. Of course their is plenty of shame to go around.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 02:26 AM
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18. Here's a good documentary on the subject...
"The Last Just Man," about Canadian Lieutenant-General Romeo Dallaire, the commander of UN forces in Rwanda when the genocide took place.

Dallaire BEGGED the UN to send him just 5,000 troops. He said that would have been enough for him to stop the genocidal rampage in April 1994.

Watching Dallaire talk about what he saw on camera is horrifying in itself. He twitches, his hands shake, etc. Very powerful.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0355680/

There's a new documentary out I haven't seen about Rwanda, called "Shake Hands With The Devil." Dallaire also appears in that one.

Another reason to love Gen. Dallaire: he said Canada had proved it was a truly good and just nation because it hadn't thrown American ambassador/Bu$h toady Paul Cellucci out on his ass. Yet.
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 02:24 AM
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17. I'll try to take a stab at that...
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 03:15 AM by NNguyenMD
Before 1960 Rwanda was a colony of Belgium, during which time the Tutsis a minority Ethnic group, were propped up and put in power by Belgium. In which time I believe that Hutu's were relgated to s subservient role and in all likelihood were treated not so nicely. I only assume I've never read much on the precisely ethnic differences between teh two groups. But it basically came down to one in a superior position over the other for a very long time.

In 1959 Belgium relinquished their power over Rwanda and the majority ethnic group, the Hutus, quickly took over power. Over the next 30 years several civils wars break out between the Hutu Army and the growing Rwandan Popular Front, based in Burundi and and led in 1994 by now Rwandan President Paul Kagame. During this thirty year period of time, widespread violence is committed by the Hutus on the Tutsi's, and its basically a period of constant terrorizing by one ethnic group over another. This accelerates the growth and power of the Tutsi RPF rebels and by 1994 they make significant gains in parts of Rwanda in which they are able to control.

In 1994 a cease-fire agreement is reached, moderated by the UN and some 2500 peacekeepers are dispatched there to maintain the ceasefire, and oversea democratic elections of a government composed of both Tutsis and Hutus. It bascially suppose to be a traditional UN mission from here on.

Lt. Gen Romeo Dallaire, a Candadian officer leads the mission and quickly reports to the UN that he suspects that Hutu extremists the Interehamwe with assistance from the Hutu army are stockpiling machetes adn weapons. He decides that he wants to use his troops to raid these weapons caches, but is quickly stopped by then head of UN Peacekeeping Kofi Annan from making his raids. Annan instead tell Dallaire to report when he knows to the Hutu Government. Dallaire vehemently disagrees but does so anyways and does not touch the weapons cache.

Meanwhile Tutsi's are getting nervous, killings of Tutsi's are getting more common in the streets and people suspect that the Hutu's are up to something big. But they feel safe they are safe in the hands of their UN Protectors.

April 6th 1994, the plane carrying the Hutu President of Rwanda is shot down killing everyone on board. Almost instantly the mass murder begins and Tutsis and moderate Hutus begin getting slaughtered in the streets. A group of Interehamwe make their way to the home of the Prime Minister, a moderate Hutu woman who was then being protected by a security detail of Belgian and Ghanain UN Peacekeppers. This part of the story you'll have to get more details on from Dallaires autobiography "Shaking Hands with the Devil" but what basically happens is the troops are ordered not to shoot and surrender their weapons on the command of the Hutu extremists. The Ghanain soldiers are told that they may leave but the Belgian soldiers and the Prime Minister are told to stay. Not a few minutes later gunfire is heard and next thing you hear all ten of teh Belgian troops and the Prime Minister are killed in a massacre.

Belgium quickly chooses to pull out its contribution to the UN force already on teh ground, the majority of the original 2500. But they dont' want to look like cowards and want to save face, so the demand that the US and other countries pull their troops out too. And thats exactly what happened, within days of the Belgian soldiers getting killed, 350 US Marines, several hundred French Paratroopers, and 1000 Belgium troop land in Kigali Airport to evacuate ANYONE who WASN'T a Rwandan. They left as quickly as they came.

Paul Rusesabagina, the man portrayed by Don Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda had this to say about the white people pulling out,

“The United Nations abandoned these people who came begging to them for help...When the UN soldiers were leaving, children begged to be taken with them, otherwise they would be killed. But instead of taking them, do you know what they did? They evacuated the dogs of foreigners in Kigali. Do you know what that says to me? The life of a European dog is worth more than a Rwandan human being.”

Gen Dallaire and the 270 or 450 troops left, mostly from Senegal, Ghana and Bangladesh, are poorly equipped, many without guns or flak jackets, bravely decide that they cannot leave and try to save as many as they can. They secure soccer stadiums, hotels, churches, anything they can find with high walls, many times with only 1 or 2 men standing guard to stop whole groups of militias from coming in to kill the protected Tutsis and moderate Hutus. Gen Dallaire and his men are credited to saving thousands of lives with the token force he is left with. He is essentially abandoned by the UN and the rest of the world. The Red Cross and Doctors without Borders are also credited with saving thousands of lives with their efforts during the 100 day massacre.

800,000 dead Tutsis and moderate Hutus is the conservative estimate of how many were killed. On July 25, 1994 the Rwandan Popular Front led by now Rwandan President Paul Kagame finally take control of Kigali, ending the Hutu government and finally ending the genocide.

And the rest is history...

This website is an incredible resource to learn more.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ghosts/
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