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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:22 PM
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What I Didn't See in Iraq
Hope this isn'ta dup of previous posted article, I couln't find anything on search

What I Didn't See in Iraq

by JIM MCGOVERN

04/14/05 "The Nation" - - "Trust me when I tell you things are so much better in Iraq," said one US military official to me on my recent visit to that war-ravaged country. I didn't know whether to scream or pull the remaining two strands of hair out of my head. I was in Iraq as part of a delegation of eight members of Congress, led by House minority leader Nancy Pelosi. Everything we have been told about Iraq by the Bush Administration has either been an outright lie or overwhelmingly false. There were no weapons of mass destruction; we have not been greeted as liberators; and the cost in terms of blood and treasure has outpaced even their worst-case scenarios. Trust is something I cannot give to this Administration.

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8549.htm
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:31 PM
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1. The neoCONs spent my trust very early on.
Why anyone would believe anything generated by this administration is simply beyond me.

They are pathological liars.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:34 PM
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2. WOW! He asked about the US Plans for Permanent Presence!
This article is priceless! Thank you for posting it should be Front Page NYT!

~snip~

During one such briefing, Lieut. Gen. David Petraeus, tasked with overseeing training of Iraqi security forces, informed us that 147,000 Iraqis had been trained. That sounded good to me. Perhaps we could start reducing the number of American forces, I suggested. But upon further questioning, General Petraeus conceded that less than one-fourth of the 147,000 were actually "combat capable." Why didn't he say that to begin with? I asked--respectfully--our military and diplomatic officials what the gap was between the Iraqis we have trained and the number we needed to train in order to draw down the number of US troops. I could not get a straight answer.

During the morning of our visit, US military officials crowed about a recent operation in which Iraqi security forces had killed eighty-five insurgents. By the afternoon, when more reports came in, it was unclear how many insurgents had actually been killed and whether the Iraqi security forces had exaggerated their own actions.

I asked both General Petraeus and our embassy about US plans to build military bases in Iraq, which in my view would indicate a prolonged US presence. I was told--emphatically--that there are no plans to construct military bases. Yet Congress recently passed a huge supplemental wartime appropriations bill that includes, at the request of the Bush Administration, $500 million for military base construction. In Iraq.


... and this gem!

~snip~

And while US officials point to a declining number of coalition casualties, there is still an unacceptably high level of violence in Iraq. One military leader told us they can tell that things are changing for the better because when US helicopters fly over certain areas of Iraq, Iraqis wave. Well, I took a helicopter ride (it's too dangerous to drive) from the Baghdad airport to the Green Zone wearing an armored vest and sandwiched between two heavily armed American soldiers who were pointing their guns down at the ground. I suggested to the military leader that perhaps he was confusing a wave with a plea not to shoot.

... A Democrat with guts! Who knew?

He ends with the fact we need to start protesting , writing our Reps and make it known this war is WRONG in order to stop it.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:32 PM
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3. thanks for the snips
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 01:33 PM by AlamoDemoc
you are right its a great article.


kick!

edited: to kick again
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