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CAMANY Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:52 PM
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Live church involved in politics
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 06:54 PM by CAMANY
edit: too late it's over. The network is TBN.


They had a church in which he was talking about them organizing and getting 6 of their people on a school board and defeating others running for office.

If this isn't grounds for tax exemption being pulled I don't know what is.
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CAMANY Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:54 PM
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1. Wow I spoke too soon
He's talking about how they need to make sure they can get away with it with out losing tax exemption. Selling a book on it now.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:56 PM
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2. Who is he? Get names, get it on video tape.
NGU.


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CAMANY Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:59 PM
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4. I believe James Kennedy was the name
In Florida.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:17 PM
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6. James Kennedy:
Pastor of Coral Ridge (Presbyterian) Church, in Coral Gables, FL. At one time, he was a respectable pastor and sound theologian. Then he got into the TV business, and decided he needed to sell out his values to the conservatives. Sure enough, the money kicked in as he became more political.

"what does it profit you if you gain the whole world, but lose your soul?" (Matthew 16: 26)
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:02 PM
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7. It's actually in Ft. Lauderdale.
The "old money" section in the northeast part of town which has been known as Coral Ridge for many years, probably since before the church was there.

We'd like to send it down south, but they apparently don't want to leave.


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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:45 PM
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10. whoops! sorry about that.
BTW, is Diane Bish still the organist there? She used to be a pretty big name, but I imagine she's getting "a little long in the tooth" to still be active.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:44 PM
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13. I don't know about her...
I stay as far away from that place as possible, which isn't too difficult. It's in northeast Ft. Lauderdale, and I live in a southwest suburb.

It really doesn't matter to me where it is, but I don't want to piss off Coral Gables by implying that the church is down there.

Back to the subject though, if Kennedy is implying that the parishioners get involved politically, it would behoove us to document that and let the IRS know.


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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:58 PM
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3. No problem-Oh.
They just get on the phone to Bush and the Rightwingers in Congress and get them to pass a permanent tax exemption for churches without those unfortunate separation of church and state thing. They'll just make it go away.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:14 PM
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9. Yep
They'll figure someway to use their "power." Wouldn't this be against the law though or what?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:49 PM
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11. Either it won't be against the law by the time they're finished
or it will be the law that wasn't enforced.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:01 PM
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5. That kind of stuff is happening all over the place.
In my dad's hometown in Northern WI, the local Bible College has a huge campus, complete with faculty housing, all tax-exempt. At election time, they tell their students who they should vote for. Because of the high conservative turn-out, the conservatives win every election, every referendum, and do just about everything they can to keep the area economically repressed.

My uncles are furious about it, especially since these people live there, tax-free, yet oppose supporting local government.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:12 PM
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8. Sure is
They're stepping over bounds.
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:49 PM
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12. my pastor worked to help get kerry elected, and in his sermons he
often reflects on his disappointment after working so hard.

just food for thought.

i realize that these are two very different things. but just something to compare with.
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