How do you repond to "Love it, or Leave it" from the uninformed

[serryjw]

I won't even say freepers because I'm hearing it from the working poor whom I'm sure they don't have a clue what is going on.

[LoZoccolo]

1. "You know that's bullshit" and walk away.

They obviously don't want to talk about anything; forget wasting your time on them.

[movonne]

2. Tell them their love is killing this country....

[NMDemDist2]

3. my love of America demands I utilize my rights, esp of free speech

:rofl:

they usually at least pause in confusion at that

[wtmusic]

4. Mark Twain's quote

“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it”.

Our government doesn't deserve it.

[serryjw]

14. Good for Mark Twain...that's brilliant

Funny, It never occured to me they where confusing our country with our government. I'll use it.

[Journeyman]

28. Or as Edward Abbey phrased it. . .

A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.
~ Edward Abbey

[K-W]

29. ignore, mispost

[American in Asia]

47. I had that quote up in BIG letters on my office wall

when I briefly worked for an arm of the USG here...I don't think the bosses were amused, but to their credit, they never asked me to take it down.

[alcuno]

52. My exact thought - the Mark Twain quote.

People really need to be weaned away from this thought that criticizing the government is unpatriotic. The country and the government are two separate entities; the country will still be here after whoever is in charge is gone.

[rodeodance]

5. to paraphase Susan B. Anathony--that is not an option (2 choices)

[thinkingwoman]

6. Back at ya

I throw it back at them...Love Freedom, or leave the U.S. Love Liberty, or leave the U.S. Love Democracy instead of Theocracy, or leave the U.S. Love Separation of powers and church and state, or leave the U.S.

[amber dog democrat]

7. I tell them blind loyalty is not patriotism

only totalitarian states, theocracies or cults insist on blind obedience
or better yet, ask what they mean by " IT " .

[blogbear]

8. I heard that crap during the Vietnam days and ignored it as I do now..

I didn't have to do either one and still don't..We don't have to listen to 'them' and never did have to. (None of them have a 'clue')

[Nite Owl]

9. I do love it

that's why I want America back. Loss of freedoms means that the terrorists won.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. Simple.

Tell the freep, "OK. Tell me you love Clinton."

:)

[ComerPerro]

17. That would do it

You have to respect and support the President.

[Warpy]

11. "I love it and I'm taking it back from you"

[Maddy McCall]

12. No. Here it is the upper middle class assholes.

And I live in Mississippi.

[ThoughtCriminal]

13. Fix it or Lose it.

[Boomer]

15. Ask them your own question:

Why didn't you leave when Clinton was president?

[LiberalFighter]

16. I love my freedom... apparently you don't -- so you leave now

[Kerrytravelers]

34. LiberalFighter- I loooooooooOOOOOoooooove you sig line!

I'm a Christian- a Catholic even- and everyday, I grow more and more sickened that my faith is being manipulated by a group of greedy neo-death-con liars.

I haven't gone to chruch in a while because I just can't stand it anylonger.

[UdoKier]

18. I would say EXACTLY this:

"That is a STUPID thing to say and you know it. If you don't want to talk to me about this seriously, like an adult, then we are done talking."


Sorry, but love it or leave it is not an argument. It doesn't cut it, ever.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

19. Good answer. eom.

[POAS]

44. I like that answer

I also like to answer it with a question, "why do you hate America?"

Or the statement, "I'll pray for you" if I think the person is a religious fundie.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

20. Love is not letting someone do whatever they want to do.

I just thought of something. lol. Work it into the "Strict Parent Model" of Lakoff. Again "Love is not letting someone do whatever they want to do". Watch them get angry.

[newyawker99]

45. Hi Crazy Guggenheim!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

46. Thanks newyawker99!! eom.

[spanone]

21. Been hearing that shit since 1967. I try not to hang with those folks.

[davsand]

22. Give them an American history lesson.

This nation was founded by political dissidents. A thriving democracy demands involvement in the process, including dissent when appropriate. It is an abdication of my responsibility as an American citizen to sit by quietly when I disagree with governmental policies.

Too many of our men and women have died in defense of the ideal of Democracy for me to abandon my responsibility to speak out when things are wrong.

Nothing makes me happier than to be more "American" than the right wingers. I find the historical view shuts up all but the most rabid--and you don't need to piss away your time with them anyhow...



Laura

[Steel City Slim]

42. Exactly

America was born of dissent. The only people who are acting in a way that is un-American are those who wish to stifle dissent.

[hector459]

23. "Make me!"

eom

[Toucano]

39. I don't make trash, I burn it!

I love that one!

[ninkasi]

24. My answer once...

many years ago, during the Vietnam era, was that I stayed to piss them off.

[Steel City Slim]

25. If You Truly Love Your Country....

....you want to correct the things that are wrong to make it even better. If you see something wrong with the country, it's your patriotic duty to correct it.

[donco6]

26. What they're REALLY saying,

is "Shut up or Leave". And that's a false duality. We can do neither.

[BeFree]

27. I do love it

I love the free speech, the right to practice my religion with no government involvement, and the fact that, if I have too, I can call the cops on you.

Frankly, not sure if anyone's ever told me love it or leave it. Must be because they don't want to scrap with me, eh?

[Zhade]

30. "Fuck you, it's my country too, idiot" usually works to shut them up.

NT!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. "Patriotism is the most foolish of passions, and the passion of fools."

And, anybody who spouts off about "love it or leave it" is an obvious fool.

[Jose Diablo]

32. I tell them to

chomp on my sausage, politely of course, and smile.

[Zen Democrat]

33. Native Americans say "Love It, Or Give It Back"

[firefox]

35. Name two states that border Iowa. n/t

[Telly Savalas]

36. My response: I do and I did.

[burn the bush]

37. "WE LOVE AMERICA ENOUGH TO RESCUE HER from you assholes"

that are destroying her.

That's not to you, but to them.

For "GET A LIFE" You say "I'm fighting for it right now." Or "Speaking of get a life-did u know that almost 1600 of our military have lost their lives in Bush's illegal war? Did you know that up to 100,000 innocent Iraqi men women and children have lost their lives in Bush's illegal war?

Did you know that tens of thousands of our soldiers are permanently and severly disabled from Bush's illegal war?

Get a life? Buddy I got a life, fighting against idiots like you who think God wants them to take anothers life for Him.

You Get a life. Or take one, enlist."

And for when they start to chant "USA...USA" Like they are the ones who love her, then you start chanting "USA USA USA..." Back at them even louder because you are the one that really loves America. Loves her enough to take her back.

on edit: Let's not forget when they give you the bg "L" across the forehead for Loser. "Loser? The American people are the losers while that asshole is squatting in our White House. Yeah, we're losers buddy, we're all losers. But that's gonna change"

[Sapphire Blue]

38. I'll leave as soon as we can secede from the United State of Texas

(otherwise known as FuckedUpistan)

[serryjw]

41. Lincoln was wrong

The pre-civil war map is almost identical to the red/blue map of today. The problem is getting worse and I see no way to fix it. We just belive differently than 'they' do. So lets put all of us out of our misery and make two countries. I'll miss Yellowstone but we all have our 'crosses' to bear'

[d_b]

40. Love it or change it.

[scarletwoman]

43. Tell them that if they hate the 1st Amendment, then THEY are the ones who

should leave.

Or say, "You'd obviously feel more comfortable in a country where dissent is outlawed. But this is AMERICA, land of the free, so maybe YOU should move to Saudi Arabia!"

sw

[B Calm]

48. The ones who told that to me (old veteran) are sorry they did!

None of these mouthy little bastards ever served our country.

[Redstone]

49. I ask them how many times they've been wounded in combat,

and tell them that if it's more than my three, then they have the right to lecture me about patriotism.

Redstone

[B Calm]

51. They don't realize those are fighting words to a veteran.

[mmonk]

50. I say love it or fix what's wrong.

Of course if what's wrong can't be fixed when these people are through since fixing it will take some changes, leave it becomes plausable if unbearable.

[gulliver]

53. If everyone who says "love it or leave it" left it, I'd love it more. n/t