Is Cokie Roberts Opus Dei? Are there any other "Pundits" who seem to

[KoKo]

always be war mongers and supporting the NeoCons? Does she and some of the writers for Washington Times...ever think about what they write?

What is this? Some kind of "silent agreement between the RW Fundies, Opus Dei, and the Protestant anti-gay crowd" who want to call themselves "Traditionalists?"

How is it going out there in DU Land in your own church these days? Are the Unitarians and Conregationalist and Quakers gaining the congregation swells because of Bush/NeoCon/OpusDei Wars and Doctrine of Pre-emptive Strike or are your numbers holding their own?

:shrug:

BTW: from koko who is an Episcopalian who can't go to church anymore because my congregation has been silent (mostly except for the Brit Archbishop of Canterbury) on "Iraq Invasion" and all the rest. I miss the wonderful music and the service...but I just can't go...even though I've tried other denominations ...and my husband is a "fallen away Catholic" who has the same problem as me.

My Goodness...the Bush Crime/Religion Embedded family has even managed to take away our "outward" expression of faith in an "organized form."

But...ya know what.........they haven't managed to corrupt or interfere with my "home belief" and their view of the New Testament will not stand the "test of time," I think. They are Pharisees and Hypocrits and if they drive me from my church I still have my "MIND" which is INDEPENDENT of what they are trying to cram down my throat with their "Dominionism" and FALSE interpretation of their view of not only Scripture...but HISTORY or the Church which will survive beyond the "Bush Inquisition" even if many of us can no longer go into a church domicile to express our faith because of them. :-(

[imenja]

1. do you have a link for an article?

In which she wrote something that suggests she might be sympathetic toward Opus Dei?

[KoKo]

2. Here's one view.....Google on your own. I've watched her for years...but

Google...Cokie Roberts, Opus Dei...

Here's One, and if you Google "Steve Roberts" her hubbie...you might find more or not...I stuck with Cokie.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:2yf-CLfe81sJ:amywelborn.typepad.com/openbook/2004/10/another_take.html+Cokie+Roberts+and+Opus+Dei&hl=en

[imenja]

7. That piece says she attended a Catholic Church

I'm confused as to the meaning of your post. I assume you're right that she is a Catholic. She is from Louisiana after all. Opus Dei, however, is a particular sect within the church. I read the Wikipedia entry on Opus Dei in an effort to find out more about the group and see what you might be referring to. Wikipedia says their teachings are not different from the larger Church, other than they encourage absolute fealty to Church doctrine and an active role for the laity. Then there is mortification of flesh, charges of links to fascism, and criticism that they allow women no real role in the group other than manual labor, cooking etc... If that is true, it would suggest she is unlikely to be an active member of the group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei

In the event you are referring to conservative elements of the Church more generally, I might point out that what we in the US focus on as conservatism in the Catholic Church centers around cultural issues about homosexuality, the celibacy of the priesthood, and ordination of women. In Latin America, where half of the world's Catholics reside and Opus Dei has a certain following, many priests--like those being considered for the papacy--articulate strong social justice positions while remaining what we would call culturally conservative. For them, poverty, violence, and neo-colonialism are far more important. John Paul II articulated many of these concerns, but not to the extent the Archdiocese of Sao Paulo has done. Cardinal Arns, the former Archbishop, played a major role in bringing down the brutal right wing dictatorship, and he risked a great deal to do so. Hummes is said to maintain similar concerns with social justice, as does the Honduran Archbishop. In the US, we increasingly conceive of liberal and conservative in cultural terms rather than class. That is not the case in Latin America and Africa, where poverty is the most compelling issue facing clergy and their parishioners.

[KoKo]

11. Apolgize...posted in the wrong Forum....have asked mods to move this

and that's why I didn't give a link...til later...

An olde time DU poster...I should have looked to see the Forum before I let loose...

Again...apologies.

Wanted this to go into GD-Politics Forum.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

3. Cokie Roberts is just head uppus assus, not opus dei

[KoKo]

4. Strong Lousiana Family...Southern with roots...lost her Dad in Alaska

but then Hale Boggs might just have been ready to "expose" some folks before he myysteriously disappeared. Cokie was "Liberal/Progressive" until Bush came in and then she turned very much to the Bush side. WHY"

Didn't she and her hubby Steve get in some "speech making" trouble under Clinton when "average Americans" used to get big time "Pissed Off" that reporters would be making big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s off "Speaking Engagements?"

Wouldnt' one wonder what changed for Cokie and Stever that once Bush was "installed" she would turn towards him? Was she a "Fake Dem/DLC Dem" or was Religion the thing that finally turned Cokies mind? :shrug:

There's a puzzle there with this Lady....and she is very much a "Southern Lady" of the "Old School" with a Mom who's an elederly Powerhouse in Louisiana Politics...?

[pscot]

8. She was just an innocuous semi-liberal

when she was covering the Congress for NPR. Then she caught on with ABC and she and her husband started making millions a year in speaking fees. She became a "Celebrity Journalist" and she quit talking and started pontificating. She used to know a lot about the Congress, but that was years ago.

[KoKo]

10. I hear what you say but disagree about "should she be held accountable."

YES SHE SHOULD!!! FGS! If she can't be held accountable then we give a big Pass to the Bushies who've not been held accountable for anything!

When Government Corruption is this big and deep then you go after the "bottom to the top" or you won't get any prosecutor to touch it.

Cokie might be small fry...but her connections in the "whore media" who stood down when Al Gore a "DC Insider" due to his FATHER and Southern Roots gets dissed, trashed and "un-elected" because some "PooBah's in DC decide to go with Baker/Carlyle group and Bush Brahmins to fulfill some "WASP" view of America...then BY GOLLY I DO get UPSET!

Who the hell are these people who think they are Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles?

Hello, HERE...Did any of you study American History in school...and after that did you ever bother to read Howard Zinn's great "Counter to American History?" :shrug:

I thought I was on a "Progressive Dem Site," here...not that I would have to fight for my life to "EXPLAIN" the Progressive view. :shrug:

[Wright Patman]

5. "Come out from among them

and be ye separate ..."

Amen, sister.

The local Southern Baptist church is now a cog in the right-wing GOP war machine. I call it the county Republican Party headquarters. "Who would Jesus bomb?"

I no longer attend that church. Perhaps I will find another one in due time. I cannot in good conscience support Pharisaical Christianity either. It is what the Lord spoke out most often against.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. — Matthew 7:22-23

[librechik]

6. Jeez, do they even allow women? I doubt it

Cokie is just a a devoted acolyte spreadin the gospel, not a member of The Brotherhood.

[KoKo]

9. Why do you give her a pass though....that's what's hard to understand...

Dems giving folks a "pass" when they know who they are supporting is nothing but a DINO! :shrug: How do you sleep at night...give me you're
recipe.

[imenja]

13. Why do you assume the poster is giving her a pass?

You posted an assertion that she was Opus Dei and somehow tied to Protestant Fundamentalists. To make the point that Opus Dei is a male organization doesn't give Roberts a pass. It simply points out women don't play a prominent role in the organization. If your concern is that Roberts is conservative in bias, I expect many DUers would agree with you. But that she is Opus Dei is a specific charge of which some posting in this thread are not convinced.

[Moderator]

12. Moving from Editorials to General Discussion, per author's request

(eom)

[alcuno]

14. In answer to your question - Laura Ingraham.

Some of the converted Catholics are the worst. Think Robert Novak.