Bolton -- Liberals faling for the same trick yet again

[seoigh]

I can't believe the Left is falling for the same trick. They've nominated this wingnut Bolton to bait Democrats into the media, complaining that he's "too tough" or a "bully". The GOP can't buy advertisements this good. America sits back and watches as the politicos debate on either the side that supports the 'tough guy who wants to protect us from a dangerous world', or the side that opposes the tough guy -- in apparent support of said dangerous world. Who do you think Joe Sixpack sides with? You think the approval rating of Bush or the Congress is bad? Ask America what they think of the UN. This is all about branding the Left as sissies. What's amazing is that we fall for it every time.

[impeachthescoundrel]

1. Whatever you say

with our current standing in the world, the last thing we need to represent us at the UN is yet another bully.

[seoigh]

6. well,

I agree with you. Joe Sixpack thinks we're sissies, though.

[CatWoman]

15. I think I speak for all of us here when I say that

Joe Sixpack can kiss my black ass.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. I paint my ass in blackface just so I can agree with you

:evilgrin:

[CatWoman]

23. *smooch*

:D

:hi:

[seoigh]

25. YES!

That's the kind of passion we need to staet winning!

[BurtWorm]

32. "We" are all ears.

Tell "us" more about what "we" need to do or say to keep winning.

[Kurovski]

83. LOL

Beautiful, so damn beautiful!

[Cats Against Frist]

43. I don't want to "win." I want to secede.

I'm not even going to use the term "Joe Sixpack," because it's fucking framing. There are plenty of "Joe Sixpacks" who are Democrats. I'm originally from Southern Illinois, and, last weekend, seven members of my fat family took their four wheelers out mushroom hunting in the timber, then shot a pack of turkeys, and went out to dinner in Lee Jeans in Chevy Tahoes, and drank Bud over a sirloin in the same town from which country-pop sensation Gretchen Wilson hails. And they probably talked about American Idol.

And they are REGISTERED democrats. And NONE of them voted for Bush. And my mother HATES Bush.

Stop it.

[skypilot]

49. I like your family.

Can they adopt me?

[Cats Against Frist]

55. If you think that you can live in a house with a teddy bear poking

out of every butter crock, gray granite bedpan and antique hatbox -- feel free....;)

I'm sure they would take you. They're very lonely, since my brother and I left the nest. And you would be a good surrogate child, because I want to move back to Seattle, and my mother will probably die -- (I have a three-year-old grandbaby of hers).

But, you might have to let her dress you in "outfits" from Old Navy.

And you might have to play "numbchucks" with my crazy dad...

:hi:

[skypilot]

67. "teddy bears', "outfits" and "numbchucks"

Sounds like my days would be full.

[King Coal]

47. Bare It! I can be a Joe Sixpack for a day!

:smoke:

[tsuki]

119. I'd protect my ass, no telling what you'll get from Joe.

[skypilot]

2. branding the left as sissies

At some point the left has to go about its business while not worrying so much about what the uninformed on the right think of us--or call us. The guy is bad news. Folks on the right branding us as sissies does not change that fact.

[seoigh]

8. you're right

But that position solidifies us as the minority party. Just so long as you're ok with that, you know? America loves bullies. I wish that weren't the case, but they do. From Dirty Harry to Ollie North to Schwarzenegger... Americans love a good fascist.

[skypilot]

17. I don't think the majority of Americans...

...like a bully or a fascist. They may very well like a tough guy but I think they'd rather have a tough guy with a good head on his shoulders. That ain't Bolton.

[seoigh]

I don't know

I think the enduring popularity of a genuinely cerifiable wingnut like Ollie North proves me right.

[skypilot]

38. I don't know anyone who likes him.

*

[seoigh]

48. sounds familiar

Didn't Pauline Kael say she didn't know anyone who voted for Nixon in 1968?

Look, nobody I would ever hang out with thinks of Ollie North as anything but psychotic. But he has his following.

[BurtWorm]

75. We now know how the people you hang out with feel about him.

How about you? How do you feel about him?

[seoigh]

84. North?

the bastard should be rotting in jail

[BurtWorm]

89. Oliver North.

This guy.



The Joe McCarthy look-alike. Just to be clear.

[seoigh]

92. honestly,

I can't think of many human beings I hate more than that piece of shit. I used him as an example because he is so completely hateful to me. He's a hero to most of the people in my office and the corner bar, though. The GOP spins WAY better than we do.

[BurtWorm]

97. I thought you said the people you hang with think he's a psycho.

You don't hang with people in your office or the corner bar?

My feeling is, "we" ought not to care what people who like Oliver North think of "us."

[BurtWorm]

63. North is popular among a certain portion of Joe Sixpacks.

They're called Republicans. Are you suggesting "we" let Bolton through so Republicans start voting Democratic?

Interesting theory. ;)

[KurtNYC]

64. North was a noteable failure in the 1994 elections

Even when so many pubs won, North lost.

Ads pointing out that North was "duped by Iranians" didn't help him any.

[seoigh]

68. well,

In 92 and 96, we didn't get a majority, either.

[BurtWorm]

73. In '92, "we" were the majority.

And "we" won the White House. Remember?

[seoigh]

87. misunderstanding

I meant the White House -- we got it on a plurality. We haven't been the majority in America for a while. That doesn't mean they are bigger than we are -- the biggest group in terms of growth is the unaffiliated.

[BurtWorm]

93. The biggest group, in terms of growth

doesn't vote. They're not impressed either by sissies or bullies. They not impressed by any of this shit. So the bottom line is, "we" have to do what's right, not what "we" think a hypothetical Joe Sixpack thinks is "non-sissy."

[Mike Daniels]

110. Actually North only lost because of Warner's spoiler candidate

Robb beat North by only 3 points and that was due exclusively because Marshall Coleman drew enough Republican support away from North.

Robb being thrashed by Allen in 2004 shows that Robb wouldn't have beaten North by himself and John Warner is the only reason Virginia doesn't have Oliver North as a senator now.

[gratuitous]

21. Yeah, Arnie's riding real high right now

All the people who were enamored by his Terminator persona have decided that's not such a good model for governance -- ask California's nurses, teachers and legislators.

Maybe you'd be happier in a less (shall we say) evolved political party?

[seoigh]

30. we'll see

I see that the Gropinator's numbers are slipping -- but I don't see that as necessarily translating into good news for Dems. California by and large agrees with the moron about immigration, after all.

[gratuitous]

42. Uhm . . . mmmkay

I guess that's why Arnie had to proffer the lame excuse that he doesn't know English very well when he said that California should close its border with Mexico, offending a heueueuege number of formerly supportive Latinos.

But if you say that's a winning strategery, who am I to argue?

[goodboy]

46. you're right about one thing...

the country is in a fascist mood right now...

[annabanana]

56. fascists love fascists..........

not even a little tempting, sorry

[FiveGoodMen]

121. America is currently under the sway of a liar and mass murderer

Should we all kill someone to fit in?

Maybe there are better ways to decide what to be for and against.

Maybe there's no point in winning if you become the enemy in the process.

[gratuitous]

3. Yeah, so let's snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again

Sorry, but Daschle isn't running the Senate Democrats anymore. Reid is doing a pretty good job of putting together a principled opposition, and the fact that the Republicans are hopping mad about the derailing of the Bolton nomination (and Owen and the others) is proof that he's being effective.

[formerrepuke]

4. Kissinger managed to get in- by portraying himself as the well-spoken

statesman.. Bolton might try ACTING the part, at least.

[Last Lemming]

10. or at least dress the part n/t

[Walt Starr]

5. Yeah right. Whatever

:eyes:

[realFedUp]

7. nice try

Big Bad Bushie Bolton to the rescue huh?

Yeah, I can see this as the Rove talking point.

[Fridays Child]

9. I haven't seen any MSM outlets spin it that way, at all. In fact...

...if anything, it's being accurately reported as the story of a man who tries to bully rank and file workers. And Joe Sixpack doesn't like that.

So, don't worry about it too much. We haven't fallen for anything.

[seoigh]

13. BUT

Joe Sixpack doesn't watch the news.

[Fridays Child]

26. If you believe that, why are you worried about this, in the first place?

Based on your assumption, Joe Sixpack wouldn't know John Bolton from a hole in the ground.

[seoigh]

52. you're right again

Joe Sixpack does not know Bolton rom a hole in the ground. By the time this filters down to Joe, the story will just be about how Democrats tried to block a guy from the UN for being too tough.

[hippiegranny]

114. if that is the case

then you have your answer to that line of reasoning all ready:

JUST LOOK AT HOW TOUGH, RESOLUTE AND PRINCIPALED THOSE DEMS WERE IN HANDLING THIS SITUATION!!! MAN! THEY DON"T TAKE SHIT FROM ANYBODY, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE IN THE MINORITY! NOW THAT'S TOUGH!!!!!

[atreides1]

31. Well

If Joe Sixpack doesn't watch the news, then what the hell are you worried about?

Because if old Joe is watching ESPN, he's not all that concerned is he?

[Fridays Child]

40. (GMTA)

;)

[DistressedAmerican]

11. Either Freeper Bait Or You Didn't Watch The Hearing AT ALL!

Give me a break. This flaming turd is going down.

You could see it all over Lugar's face as he lost support!

[elperromagico]

12. What's perhaps even more amazing

is that someone with such a low post count would choose to post such obvious flamebait.

You've been here since 2001? You must be a slow poster.

[seoigh]

I was afraid of that

I appreciate your skepticism -- but I am being honest. Listening to Limbaugh today, it came to me -- the right is yet again putting the left in a position where they are forced to oppose a guy for being "too tough". They do it all the time.

[elperromagico]

29. "Listening to Limbaugh" isn't going to help convince anyone.

If you had a few hundred posts under your belt, people might be more receptive; they would argue with you, all the while assuming that your post was just an attempt at playing "devil's advocate."

But when you've got 16 posts to your name and you post something like this, cackles go up. I hope you've got a strong constitution.

[seoigh]

39. ok

You're about as bad as the Freepers with your paranoia on the baiting. Dude, get over it. I frankly don't care what you think.

I was just pointing out that -- much like Iran Contra -- the Left is yet again stuck in the position of having to oppose someone who is perceived (wrongly) to have committed only the crime of loving America too much. We can't win the battle of perceptions by opposing people like this too vocally. But oppose them we must, obviously. Bolton is a whackjob.

[elperromagico]

51. Look, if you want to hang around here and post flamebait

based on what you've heard on Limbaugh, that's your choice. But don't act surprised when people suspect an ulterior motive.

I won't dignify the Freeper comparison with a reply, as it merits none.

As for your original post... Fact: Bolton's nomination is effectively being "blocked" now by Republicans. Voinovich (R - OH) and Chafee (R - RI) are the ones who said they could not vote on Bolton's nomination. That is widely reported, whether Dear Leader Rush wants to admit it or not.

If it had been a straight party-line vote on Bolton, his nomination would be on the floor of the Senate by now and he'd be on his way to the UN. Two Republicans on that committee blocked Bolton; are they therefore "sissies" as well?

Or are only Democrats capable of being "sissies"? Why not call Limbaugh and ask him what he thinks?

[seoigh]

54. Wow

You truly are an unpleasant person.

Fact: the whole Bolton story would never make it to the front page unless the GOP blocked it. Who's siding with whom here? Are you telling me you TRUST Voinich and Chafee? I don't.

[Beetwasher]

58. Unpleasant Person? Nope, He's A Tough Guy, What Are You? Some Kinda Sissy?

n/t

[seoigh]

69. now

THAT as funny!

[KurtNYC]

72. LOL

best line of the day

[annabanana]

65. giggle

elperromagico is an unpleasant person?
You ARE new here..
(here there be MONSTERS)
hahaha

[elperromagico]

66. Wow.

You're determined, aren't you?

This hurts the Democrats, you and Rush claim, because they are blocking Bolton and therefore appear to be "sissies."

Yet the Republicans blocked him. As they are blocking the President's nominee from a floor vote he would likely win, they must be "sissies" too.

No, I do not trust Voinovich or Chafee. But facts are facts; if only the Democratic "sissies" were blocking Bolton, he would have been approved by the Senate by now. It only stands to reason, therefore, that there must be a few "sissies" on the other side of the aisle.

Nobody ever expected the Democrats to support Bolton; the Republicans were a different story.

I'm sorry that logic escapes you.

[seoigh]

70. So,

Have Chafee and Voinovich not voted for him yet? Is it at all just POSSIBLE that in 3 weeks time, the vote will happen and the Dems will be left as the only people in oppositon AGAIN?

[elperromagico]

80. Would that honestly surprise anyone?

The Democrats have had - and will have - a great many battles in the next two or four years where they will stand alone in their opposition to Bush. That's what happens when you're the minority in both houses of Congress and you don't control the White House.

The fact remains, however, that Bush's boy Bolton is so unpalatable that even Republicans are reluctant to vote for him. That is what is being reported; even members of Bush's own party aren't keen on Bolton.

Will they ultimately vote for him? More than likely, yes. But if they were gung-ho for Bolton, they would have voted for him this week.

[seoigh]

82. well,

holding up the vote certainly shifted the news away from the ugly ecnomic news that Greenspan was talking about -- and it shifted it away from Bush's low approcal numbers. Now the news is about one group who supports a bully and once who opposes him. I wouldn't make any assumptions about why the GOP held it up until the vote goes down

[elperromagico]

88. The point is that the GOP *did* hold up a vote on him,

for whatever reasons.

If you can't see the significance of Bush's rubber stamp Congressional Republicans refusing to act immediately on one of his nominees, then I don't know what to tell you.

[seoigh]

94. but

It's exactly because they are a rubber-stamp Congress that makes me skeptial. I mean, come on -- this is a body that passed Gonzales!

[elperromagico]

99. They've approved lots of unpalatable nominees.

That makes the decision to delay a vote on Bolton all the more significant.

If Gonalzes was A-OK with these guys and got through with no real problems, Bolton must really be an SOB.

[Fridays Child]

33. Limbaugh? And I bet you buy Playboy just for the articles, right?

[seoigh]

57. oh come on

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

I listen to Rush to give me a good idea of what it sounds like in Bush's sick little head.

[skypilot]

35. He's not being opposed because he's too tough.

He's being opposed because he is unqualified to work as a diplomat for an institution that he himself does not believe in. He's also a loose cannon who doesn't own up to his shortcomings and mistakes, pretty much like most of the idiots in the Bush administration. Loose cannon does not equal "tough".

[seoigh]

59. please let me agree with you

I know that's why he's being opposed. What I'm talking about is how this is going to be spun.

[skypilot]

62. I understand what you're saying but...

...we can't always spend our time responding to every bit of rightwing spin. We can lose focus that way and what needs to be focused on right now is how ill-suited this guy is for the job. Let the right spin all they want.

[seoigh]

71. you're probably right

I just get sick of hearing all the Joe Sixpacks near where I live spouting out the Republican spin on things.

[RaleighNCDUer]

102. It's not because he's "too tough"

It's because he's too crazy. And the word is out on him.

[LittleClarkie]

116. There's a difference between being "too tough" and being bat shit crazy

Negroponte is tough, but he isn't facing much opposition.

Bolton is not tough. If anything, the bully has to pick on subordinates to feel like a real man.

Do not help them to reframe him as "too tough". That is NOT the problem with this man.

And I wonder how we could not fall for this. Are you suggesting we shouldn't oppose him?

[BOSSHOG]

14. What dangerous world?

And how will bolton protect us? In the 90's the United States joined with the United Nations in corraling Iraq and doing away with their WMD by Operations Southern and Northern Watch and by applying No Fly Zones. I was part of the pussy liberal military then who got the job done without pissing off two-thirds of the world. Fuck Joe Sixpack unless he wants to sign enlistment papers I'd more than happy to provide him. I'll be a dumbass and fall for peace and prosperity any day.

bolton is not a tough guy, he's a fucking psychopath.

[seoigh]

22. What dangerous world?

The one the 51% of Americans who think Iraq has something to do with 9-11 believe in. I'm not saying the world IS really that dangerous -- but the yee-ha nationalists in this country THINK it is. And they are the majority.

[BOSSHOG]

37. If the world is a dangerous place

it is because we have a fucking moron as a commander in chief. The 51% of Americans you refer to are lunatic lemmings dragged around by the testicles by "tough guys." Those you refer to do not think, they believe. If they thought about anything bush would not be in the WH and the world would not be the dangerous place you believe it is.

[seoigh]

61. A agree

but there are more of them

[RaleighNCDUer]

107. No they are not the majority.

Adjust for the vote count fraud, any you are talking about 49% of voters. Not 49% of Americans. It's more on the line of 32% of Americans as a whole.

We have the numbers. What we don't have is the power positions or control of the vote tabulators.

[seabeyond]

16. shit dems cant win with their party for not, speak, dont sit stand

fetch boo boo fetch

[SeveneightyWhoa]

18. "What's amazing is that we fall for it every time."

Freepers fall for it every time?

I thought you were talking about "the Left"?

[BurtWorm]

19. Right.

;)

[cry baby]

24. Nope, I think America is tired of being overrun with "good ol boys"

Bolton is not very popular with America. People are starting to associate with us "the underdogs", that is what I believe. The Dems fighting against this person is proof they are not wimps.

[NYCGirl]

27. I would hope that Joe Sixpack could tell the difference between a strong

man and a nutso out-of-control bully, but perhaps it's too much to hope for. Or perhaps you underestimate Joe Sixpack.

BTW, the approval ratings of Bush and the Congress were terrible recently.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. welcome to DU!

Oh wait..you've been here since 2001 and posted this just to let us know that if we block Bolton who has about as much experience in diplomacy as Timothy MCVeigh that we will be considered sissies??

Thanks so much for only speaking out on the most important issues.

[Beetwasher]

34. LOL! Wow, The Rightwing Nuts Really Have Their Panties In A Bunch Because

us Democratic "sissy's" have given them a bloody nose over Bolton! Ha Ha! Yeah, we're sissy's and we're wimps, but you pathetic whiners can't even get your tough, macho guy rammed through a totally Repub controlled Senate committee! LOL! What a bunch of incompetent bufoons! If we're sissy's, what does that make your guys who can't even railroad their guy over a bunch of sissy's? LOL!

[elperromagico]

41. If it hadn't been for a couple of Republican "sissies"

who delayed a vote on Bolton, Bolton's nomination would have gone to the floor for a vote and he'd be in harness by tomorrow.

It was always pretty clear that the Dems were going to vote against Bolton. It was the Republicans (Voinovich and Chafee) who pulled the big shocker.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

44. I suggest you retract that comment!

By calling Republicans "sissies", you're not only angering Joe Sixpack, but you're showing the Left's hypocrisy since this bunch of sissies has the nerve to call Republicans sissies!

Joe Sixpack will not be pleased. Please edit your post before the creator of this thread says something!

[seoigh]

76. please don't put words in my mouth

I didn't say the Left are sissies. I said the Right brands us as sissies. Is that so very hard to understand?

[Beetwasher]

90. What's Hard To Understand Is How You Think The Dems

who stood up and won this fight (w/ a couple of Repubs helping) will somehow magically be branded sissys. This shows that they are in fact quite tough. What they did is the exact opposite of being a sissy. The coverage of this story is NOT branding them as sissys. It appears that only you and Rush Limbaugh are trying to brand the Dems as sissy's for this. I've seen it nowhere else.

Rush will turn your brain to mush.

[redqueen]

36. That's funny. n/t

[Alizaryn]

45. Actually....in this case toughness equates to attempting to have

"facts" manipulated by being a bully and threatening one's job. After the ass we made of ourselves with the "Iraq has WMDs" claims its easy to see how the false facts were allowed to endure with people like Bolton in positions of power. This is NOT a fight we as Democrats need to be embarrassed by or ignore.

[seoigh]

79. but

a majotity of America still believes Iraq had WMDs.

[thoughtanarchist]

50. Hee hee hee! Nice try!

<alert>


:nuke:

[Drewskie]

53. Ed

Ed just said Luger had "ants in his pants" trying to get the nomination through. lol That cracked me up.

[Inland]

60. "Kick down, kiss up". That's not tough, to beat on underlings.

You poor people can't tell the difference between a tough guy and a chickenshit who bullies little people when he can get away with it while kissing ass of his superiors.

Why not get some guy beating up old ladies to be the next ambassador.

[Warren DeMontague]

74. Right. "We" really lose the rage-crazed, incoherent, walrus-moustached,

limp-dicked freeper vote when we do things like oppose assholes like Bolton.

What a tragedy.

[seoigh]

77. how can you not see?

That the limp-dick Freeper vote has been kicking our ass for most of our lives? And why? Because they are right? Of course not. Because the right spins WAY better than we do. I'm not saying we are what the right SAYS we are -- I'm saying they are very succesful at portraying us that way. Bolton will be another chapter in that story.

[Warren DeMontague]

103. The people who listen to Rush Limbaugh

are not going to be interested in anything we say-- OR spin. What's the alternative? To let this nutjob go to the UN unopposed? Hell, at least we're fighting back... maybe 'Joe Sixpack' can take time out from wanking to Soldier of Fortune in his paneled basement to appreciate and respect THAT aspect of it.

[Zorra]

78. The nomination of Bolton is the ultimate diplomatic slap in the face to

the rest of the world.

Regardless of how ignorant Joe Republican is about world affairs, or what ignorant republicans think about people that are far more informed, intelligent, and evolved than them, Bolton must not be confirmed as Ambassador to the UN or the US can forget about any cooperation from the rest of the nations of the world...permanently.

Just because republicans are stupid and dangerous doesn't mean we should do what they want us to.

[seoigh]

81. I totally agree

I just think we should be careful in our approach to it. We need to approach it from the "Bolton is crazy" angle more than the "Bolton is a bully" angle. It's too easy to spin the anti-bully stuff into making us look weak.

[BurtWorm]

85. How about the Bolton is a crazy bully angle?

In other words, the truth.

[seoigh]

91. funny

But like I said -- if you think the Gropinators approval numbers are low -- if you think Bush's approval numbers are low -- if you think Congress' approval numbers are low, then you need to look at what America thinks about the UN.

It's totally safe for Bush to nominate a crazy bully to the UN -- it'll cost him nothing.

[Beetwasher]

96. Only In A Fevered Imagination

is it totally safe. Obviously, you're wrong. People in his own party have trouble w/ this nomination.

People will remember that he LOST THIS FIGHT. And nobody likes a loser. He's losing this, he's losing SS, he's losing on Schiavo, he's losing on fillibuster, he's losing losing losing even though Repubs control everything. That's what people will remember. Somehow, the Dems who control nothing, are winning and winning a lot lately.

You are the only one saying the Dems will lose this spin. All the spin I've seen has been that this is a big defeat and set back for Bush and no one else. So, you and Rush Limbaugh are the only one's that agree that the Dems will be portrayed a sissy's because of this.

[BurtWorm]

100. What does America think about the UN?

If anything.

[Zorra]

109. Economic and diplomatic repercussions may arise from this insult

that will cost Buh and the republicans far more in popularity than he and they would gain by giving the Homer Simpson's of America a quick "haw-haw guess Bush taught them Frenchies a thing or two."

In fact, most of the damage has already been done.

Now they need to dump Bolton ASAP, cut their losses, and nominate a genuine intelligent and skillful diplomat.

[Lab2112]

118. RE: I totally agree

Despite your low post count (mine is even lower!), I understand where you're coming from.

However, the people that disagree with your viewpoint (even those who are condescending on you for your low post count) have a good point: Democrats shouldn't back down in their fierce opposition to Bolton just because they may later be painted as "sissies."

The only sissies are those who back down from a fight. Keeping a thug like Bolton away from the UN post is definitely fighting the good fight.

Anyway, Republicans will paint Democrats as sissies, traitors, and Saddam lovers no matter what we do, so worrying about how they're going to spin this or that is an exercise in futility.

Think about it: the only thing Democrats can do that will ultimately prevent Republicans from casting any aspersions is if we join the Borg Collective and we all become right-wingers.

I think the Senate Democrats are right to show some spine; may this be part of an increasing trend.

LAB

[LynneSin]

86. Damn, it's so good that Republicans are starting to fall for it too

Repukes like Hagel, Voinovich and Chafee are still having reservations.

Democrats are just fine. We shouldn't read something into every dumbass manuever that Bush does. Bush wants Bolton at the UN so Bolton can pull his bullying act on the world just like he does with his own staff.

[seoigh]

95. I believe it

when I see Voinovich and company actually vote him down. Until then, I don't trust them any further than I can throw them.

[Warren DeMontague]

98. Hey, Timely! This topic goes great with the thing I did today!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

115. those deserve their own thread!

[Terran]

101. So what exactly would be the alternative, O Wise One?

Clearly being against Bolton is a bad idea. So the Dems should just let him become our amabassador to the UN. That's what you're saying, right?

[Warren DeMontague]

104. Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.. you know better, but I know him..

Now, he's gone....

[elperromagico]

105. Tombstoned.

Stick a fork in this one; he's done.

[BurtWorm]

106. One of "us?" Tombstoned?

:o

[elperromagico]

111. I admire seoigh's endurance;

took him four years to blow his load. :P

*wonders if this reply is acceptable :scared:*

[BurtWorm]

112. Of all the subjects to blow your load on!

:wtf:

Bolton? Maybe he was just too late to get in on the Schiavo business and needed to get some release?

[gratuitous]

113. Another one bites the dust

I think this is an old-time Freep who just happened to remember the password to a handle he registered years ago. Not quite an acid flashback; more like a stupid flashback.

Adios.

[BurtWorm]

117. I'm going to nominate this for Greatest

Who's with me?


:bounce:

[gratuitous]

120. Nah

Not some of my better work, and this chew toy was hardly worth the effort.

[MsTryska]

108. *lol* why does it always gotta be about partisanship?

what about putting america first?


What about what's best for the country not what's best for the republicans or the democrats?


from now on - anyone concerned about what Joe Sixpack wants or doesn't want can kiss my everlovin liberal ass.


While we're taking the licks so Joe Six can keep having soem goddamn freedom and perhaps an economy that keeps his drunk ass in a paycheck, his fat ass better be fuckin' thankful.

i'm so sick of this shit.