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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:59 PM
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Anyone have any good libertarian books or writers to recommend
Since libertarianism is just booming on the Ole Miss campus, repubs too ashamed to admit they voted for Bush (hehehehehe) I would like to have some books to recommend.

Since they seem pretty feed up with both parties I figure I should give them some decent libertarian authors to read up on. You know stay out of my business and leave my civil rights alone kinda stuff, not I am a right wing shill that claims to be a libertarian BS.

Thanks, deep down I have a desire for folks to get some good policial philosophy and to Naderize the republican party.

Any suggestions?
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:03 PM
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1. Dennis Miller called himself a Libertarian on the Daily Show last night!
If he's a Libertarian I'm a practicing Catholic.

heh heh


www.cafepress.com/showtheworld
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:10 PM
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8. He's no Libertarian, that's for sure
Libertarians are WAY more pissed off about IraqNam than even liberal demcrats.

And Dennis just looooooves IraqNam
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:03 PM
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2. Justin Raimondo
Justin Raimondo
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:41 PM
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12. He runs/edits www.antiwar.com
Which is daily reading for me personally...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:04 PM
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3. "The Road to Serfdom" by F. A. Hayek
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 05:11 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: Then read "The Constitution of Liberty" by F. A. Hayek

Warning: As always, read critically.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:05 PM
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5. The comic book version is humorous.
I don't know if it's still in print.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:04 PM
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4. Anything by Ayn Rand
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:08 PM
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6. Make them Randroids, give them Ayn, she's just grand.
Lousy lit but selfish an snitty.

Right up their alley.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:02 PM
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16. Please, anything but that
The last thing we need is more Rand spewing jerks.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:09 PM
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7. I love to point them to Ron Paul's website
Libertarian congresscritter from Houston who ran as a republican but one look at his website (especially on IraqNam) and it will absolutely curl your eyebrows. He is MERCILESS and VICIOUS in his BushAttacks on IraqNam.

http://www.house.gov/paul/

a little snip from his site:

1. What if the policies of foreign intervention, entangling alliances, policing the world, nation building, and spreading our values through force are deeply flawed?

2. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein never had weapons of mass destruction?

3. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were never allies?

4. What if it is true that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein did nothing to enhance our national security?

5. What if our current policy in the Middle East leads to the overthrow of our client oil states in the region?

6. What if the American people really knew that more than 20,000 American troops have suffered serious casualties or died in the Iraq war, and 9% of our forces already have been made incapable of returning to battle?

7. What if it turns out there are many more guerrilla fighters in Iraq than our government admits?

8. What if there really have been 100,000 civilian Iraqi casualties, as some claim, and what is an acceptable price for “doing good?”

9. What if Rumsfeld is replaced for the wrong reasons, and things become worse under a Defense Secretary who demands more troops and an expansion of the war?

10. What if we discover that, when they do vote, the overwhelming majority of Iraqis support Islamic (Sharia) law over western secular law, and want our troops removed?

11. What if those who correctly warned of the disaster awaiting us in Iraq are never asked for their opinion of what should be done now?

12. What if the only solution for Iraq is to divide the country into three separate regions, recognizing the principle of self-determination while rejecting the artificial boundaries created in 1918 by non-Iraqis?

13. What if it turns out radical Muslims don’t hate us for our freedoms, but rather for our policies in the Middle East that directly affected Arabs and Muslims?

14. What if the invasion and occupation of Iraq actually distracted from pursuing and capturing Osama bin Laden?

15. What if we discover that democracy can’t be spread with force of arms?

16. What if democracy is deeply flawed, and instead we should be talking about liberty, property rights, free markets, the rule of law, localized government, weak centralized government, and self-determination promoted through persuasion, not force?

17. What if Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda actually welcomed our invasion and occupation of Arab/Muslim Iraq as proof of their accusations against us, and it served as a magnificent recruiting tool for them?

18. What if our policy greatly increased and prolonged our vulnerability to terrorists and guerilla attacks both at home and abroad?

19. What if the Pentagon, as reported by its Defense Science Board, actually recognized the dangers of our policy before the invasion, and their warnings were ignored or denied?

20. What if the argument that by fighting over there, we won’t have to fight here, is wrong, and the opposite is true?

21. What if we can never be safer by giving up some of our freedoms?

22. What if the principle of pre-emptive war is adopted by Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, and others, “justified” by current U.S. policy?

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr012605.htm

Or I guess the usual Ayn Rand crap, but I'm not even sure if the libertarians read that tripe anymore
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:21 PM
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11. Ron Paul, yes -great suggestion.
:thumbsup:
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:18 PM
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9. Heinlein
Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Glory Road, Farnham's Freehold & Stranger in a Strange Land being the best I think. Earlier stuff is more just straight adventure and stuff later than that he got a little long winded.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:03 PM
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17. YES! Heinlein ROCKS!
:yourock:
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:21 PM
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10. I Know This Isn't What You're Looking For -- But Chomsky & Gandhi
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 05:21 PM by Tace
are/were social libertarians. Lew Rockwell is libertarian, I believe. LewRockwell.com
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NorthSideCubsFan Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:03 PM
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13. Here are the books that made the case for me
No Treason by Lysander Spooner
Our Enemy the State by Albert Jay Nock
Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:37 PM
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14. Cool thanks! the more books I can find the better.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:58 PM
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15. Many libertarians are just as dangerous as Republicans.
They may be bang on with respect to most social issues, but economically most of them want to turn the clock back a few centuries.
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