Why is the anniversary of Pat Dillman's death a bigger deal than

[evlbstrd]

all of the other volunteers?
I mean no disrespect for his sacrifice. He was killed by friendly fire.
But it seems to me that his death is being used as a symbol fot the Correctness of the War.

I believe it better illustrates the madness that this adventure has been from the beginning.

It reminds me of Viet Nam.

We Fucked Up.

Not my president.

[lonestarnot]

1. Who's pat pillman? LOL

[Hello_Kitty]

2. By all accounts

From those who knew him the best, Pat Tillman would not appreciate the accolades and attention bestowed upon him by the media. Here in Arizona it's really disgusting the way they use him to pander to the MSM's portrayal of the "War on Terra". His own family has repeatedly requested that they stop exploiting his memory for cheap war propaganda, to no avail. It's truly sickening.

[lonestarnot]

3. Don't feel sorry for that bag of crap...he volunteered to go kill people..

I'm a native of the state and am disgusted with the publicity this freak continues to get...am sick of all the bullshit propoganda promotion to our youth to enlist for killing people based on lies. My appologies, I should never tell someone how to feel, so I take that back... you feel however you wanna feel! Go ahead on there and feel the pain for this dirtbag.

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[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

14. If you say so, pal.

I gave you more respect than you deserved when I actually dignified your dimwitted post with a response. It's late, I have better things to do then try and debate you.

[lonestarnot]

25. Not anyone's Personal Ass Licker! Mojo.

[Jesus Saves]

16. What the..????

He was in the Afghanistan war...not Iraq.

Seventhson, anyone?

[lonestarnot]

18. Forgot he was bumped off in Afghanistan...would rather just forget him

altogether...why is he better than anyone else who died there in service? NOT! He was the warrior type, blood-thirsty. He was dooped into believing he was going to capture Osama Bin Forgotten... no one bothered to let him in on the inside deal that bin forotten's freedom ticket had already been arranged. Tora bora swora saw him, oops he slipped away. Well I call him a brainwashed dumbshit to be willing to sacrifice what could have been a meaningful life under a bush.

[Jesus Saves]

19. You're just straight up slandering him

You should be ashamed of yourself.

I question your motives.

[lonestarnot]

22. Not .... just expressing my opinion about him and others like him....

[Jesus Saves]

23. I see through you

that's all I have to say.

[lonestarnot]

24. You can't see through me as I am not a ghost and I'm glad that is all you

have to say on the matter as I am sick of hearing about the dude.

[specimenfred1984]

4. Propaganda, That's Why

He's a good looking white kid/pro football player who died in the service of "Jesus" and "Country".

Look at your neighbors, most of them are brainwashed dolts who suck this shit up into their pea-brains.

Tell these hick neighbors of yours exactly what you think, then, be ready for their mindless replies, blank stares of stupidity and rote recitals of right-wing propaganda.

[TheFarseer]

5. first of all, he was killed in Afghanistan

which is a perfectly just war IMO. Second of all, he passed up millions of dollars to volunteer for the army. I really have to respect that.

[lonestarnot]

6. blah blah blah ...friendly fire

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

8. Exactly right.

[Gemini Cat]

10. I respect that too.

He's better than the other morons who shout about their patriotism around the town, but can't serve themselves because of their "other priorities" or their boils on their collective asses or whatever other bullshit excuses they have.

[BrendaStarr]

20. Just war

I would say that possibly there might have been a way to call it just to kill over 4000 citizens of another country plus all the conscripts that we can call "enemy" just because they are forced into service at the actual point of a gun if we had actually done anything to improve the situation there.

But people in Afghanistan mostly think the Taliban was better than the war lords that rule the land now.

Maybe some are making more money now, since they can grow poppies, but that would only be if they can manage to live 30-40 years doing that. Not highly likely.

It has been reported that terrorist training camps are back in service in the nation.

Women are still wearing the burka because otherwise they might be kidnapped, and raped or killed with impunity by those in the service of of the war lords.

Yet still we have to ask ourselves if tit for tat on the nation whose leaders' had chosen to play host to al Qaeda was the right thing to do.

In fact, despite the lies of Rice and Rummy et al. Repeated bombing of the camps could have done more than playing war games on Afghanistan in general.

But then they couldn't form the nation into a neocon's wet dream (which they failed to do anyway) could they?

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

7. You mean, Pat Tillman?

I don't think it's anything political at all. Tillman was a high-profile guy who left a promising football career to serve his country, and sadly lost his life in battle.

[BrendaStarr]

21. It's mainstream media idiocy.

They worship celebrities and claim its the American public that forces them to do it.

The repeat the same themes and words until one wants to break their television set and or radio, and tear up the newspaper.

That's why I love reading my news. When I get to something really stupid, like someone just repeating what mainstream news has taught them, I can just push on past and get on to something worthwhile.

[delete_bush]

11. My take, he was a good looking

white football player who lived what every repuke would say was the American dream and then sacrificed all this, in their view, for his country.

The likes of limpballs, o'really, insanity, loofah man and the
savage wiener et al have reached god-like status with their tens of millions of listeners, but they (the radio guys) know deep down this worship is undeserved and without merit.

When they portray Tillman as this romantic (in a manly way, of course) warrior-god they by extension take on all of his alleged virtues, for he is now one of them. Which is something none of these flaccid losers could attain on their own.

[ugarte]

12. It's all about recruiting

using this guy's celebrity as an example to inspire kids to sign up.

[Jesus Saves]

15. First off get his name right

But you're not really interested in that are ya? I see through you.

Tillman was a good guy who didn't fit into any preset mold. He was an individual above all else. He rode a bike to football practice. He was a surfer. He wasn't some right wing poster child like some would make him out to be.

[ugarte]

17. And Tillman would hate how the right wing has tried to exploit his death

His brother has said as much.

[Disturbed]

26. A hero or a fool?

Maybe he was neither. Maybe he was a person that believed in the American ideal of sacrifice. Maybe he was wrong to do so maybe he wasn't. It really depends upon our personal perspective, doesn't it?

I do know this: His life and death is being used by many people to further an agenda. That is repugnant in my view.