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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:34 PM
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Aren't photos like this against the Geneva Convention???



Fourth Infantry Division soldiers from the 1st Battalion 68th Armor Task Force detain and put sandbags over the heads of the men, 31 in total, of the village of Mashahdah, Iraq (news - web sites) 45 kilometers north of Baghdad Sunday, July 13, 2003. The search mission was part of Operation Ivy Serpent which began Sunday in an attempt to root out and eliminate pro-Saddam insurgents who have been firing rocket-propelled grenades on American vehicle convoys and launching mortar attacks on U.S. bases. (AP Photo/John Moore)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030713/168/4o16y.html

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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:23 AM
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1. In my judgment they are,
but remember, the US is not bound by the Geneva Convention in Bizarro World.
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southernfried Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:39 AM
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7. based on the reasoning given at the time
the answer is not as it does not identify specific prisoners, in short, you don't see faces.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:46 AM
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10. You are correct, sir.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:36 PM
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15. What do you say about these? I can see these guys faces pretty good
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:30 AM
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2. GAWD!! In 120-degree Iraqi weather???
This type of treatment is so totally inhumane! If their hands are bound, why in the hell do they have to have bags over their heads? Are they going to have "sticking-out-tongues" of Mass Destruction if their heads are left uncovered so they can still breathe??

:kick:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:31 AM
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3. Ok, I see a bag marked "32"
yet the caption says there are 31 prisoners. Wonder what happened?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:33 AM
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4. like a baker's dozen..pay for 31, get one free
:shrug:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:35 AM
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5. The Unknown Assassins?
Sorry, bad joke.
:-(
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:37 AM
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6. Yes and this time
there is NO excuse because technology is allowing the entire world to witness this.

This is a crime against humanity! Monstrous in that everyone knows about it and not enough care. 'Love thy neighbor' has been perverted into 'Love thine own kind'. Elie Weisel, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Simon Wiesenthal, Franklyn Graham what's up? See no evil? Hear no evil?



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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:40 PM
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16. Another case of what applies to us, doesn't apply to the rest...
of the world. :eyes:

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:44 AM
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8. No booze for the Iraqi's either or you get the bag treatment too
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 11:45 AM by NNN0LHI

A US soldier flashes the V-sign as he escorts hooded illegal vendors to a police station after being apprehended Thursday July 10, 2003 along the Tigris River in Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites). The vendors were allegedly caught selling alcohol, still prohibited to be sold outside in Muslim Iraq. (AP Photo/Mikhail Metzel)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030710/168/4n6oe.html&e=2&ncid=1479

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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:47 AM
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11. How much do you want to bet that those soldiers
"confiscated" the evidence and it disappeared?

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:09 PM
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18. our troops are goddamn enforcing Muslim law??!?!?!?!?!?
:wtf:


was alcohol illegal in Saddam's Iraq? I thought they were secular... maybe like a blue law, perhaps...?

nonetheless, :wtf:


next up- US troops hanging Iraqi women for showing their ankles??
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:45 AM
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9. They put bags over their heads?
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 11:45 AM by LeftPeopleFinishFirs
I at least hope there are holes in those bags so they can breathe! That looks like it's in total violation of the Geneva Convention but I'm not sure if Geneva rules apply to those "detainees" or "prisoners" (no idea what they call them now, lol).

on edit: spelling
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:06 PM
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12. numbers on the bags, wrote on their chests, the nazis numbered
their prisoners too....
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:50 PM
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13. Good god.
What is this doing even to our soldiers to be made to perform in a world where they think this is OKAY. Let alone what it is doing to the Iraqis and their view of Americans.

The question of how "we" are behaving over there needs to be brought to the fore. There was a thread a couple of days ago with staggering allegations of US forces withholding medical care from Iraqis, adults and children, which apparently is against our Geneva convention responsiblities as an occupying force.

Does anyone know good links on the subject of US human rights violations in Iraq?
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OrdinaryTa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:25 PM
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14. Support the Troops
What is this doing even to our soldiers to be made to perform in a world where they think this is OKAY

What are you, unpatriotic? Shut your mouth. You're probably one of these free riders who skipped out on the draft. </sarcasm off>

If they do this while the cameras are rolling, just imagine what the do when the cameras aren't around. These morally coarse individuals are coming back to America, having learned the sadistic pleasures of abusing the helpless. Welcome home, guys.

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:45 PM
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17. "The men of the village"?
So we're removing entire populations from their homes indiscriminately?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:12 PM
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19. yes
you aren't allowed to humiliate prisoners
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:25 PM
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20. But --- the war is over --- Mission Accomplished!
So the Geneva Convention does not apply to trhe Roveians
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:33 PM
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21. Like something out of the movie "Brazil"
In that movie, prisoners were cocooned in hooded contraptions with hooks on them. They were hooked up on moving "conveyer cables" so they could be "processed" assembly-line fashion.

Are we getting so much out of bagging these guys heads that we can affort the fallout from pictures like this?

America, is this "American?"
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