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FRCAction . . . fraction . . . . weird, huh?

BTW, I wonder how many of those religious fascists at the Air Force Academy James Dobson (Dodson?) and his coalition knows?

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1. I'm sure they are all on his mailing list. n/t

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2. Business Buddies.

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3. No, new marks, the lifeblood of these groups. n/t

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4. They still take out full page ads in K.C. metro area

Buy this get that.

The Money Changers are in the temple.

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5. What can you say, God is a lucrative business. n/t

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6. dobson. i had same ?

reading a book of his now. only made it to page three when he had to put in print he is a real "mans man"

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7. Is he worried about attraction to the same sex?

Defensiveness is SO revealing.

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8. i dont know a lot on this subject, but that is my feel

any man writing a book about himself to half to put it in printed word that he is a mans man on page three has me thinking there is an issue, or it is a repug talk that they are all sure to use in an odd group like way

but yes, that is my immediate feel. that he questions himself so has to tell the world. generally the things we say is to protect ourselves, where we feel most vulnerable is what we protect

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9. Some of us are thinking maybe just being a man is enough.

Men's Men might have something to do with our Culture of Death; they sure had something to do with all of the dying going on in Iraq.

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10. they are in the hiearchy of they are in the know, hands out punishment

they are writing the book on how to physically punish child bruise and all. as the wife is at home raising the child, knowing the child, interacting with the child, keeping mouth shut

or worse, letting husband get away with this shit

simply, their definition of man, is not my difinition of man. and i am actively teaching boys the autrocity males commit on male, using this difinition of man. my kids (boys) can plainly see

i just had conversation with son this morning on his courage. he is small frame 9 being beat up by 12 yr old adult bodies. not hard to knock him down. trying to defend his own physical ability. told him. you arent being fair to you. but so couragous. he says on cue, but i feel like such a coward.

had an hour conversation on this. abuse of power......always bottoms to abuse of power

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11. Please believe me, I don't hate men. I love men.

But something is seriously out of whack here!!! For years I have been troubled by all the "glory" heaped upon the obscenity of war. If men are having some trouble feeling anything for one another . . . I mean what IS all of this glorious Buddies stuff. Aren't these people who can find friendship and buddies without the killing? Where are their families, their REAL gang, or tribes or whatever it is that they need.

I have a hard time believing that ther is a mother out there who would not trade all of that great big heap of "War Glory" - insanity - for that person's or persons' presence in her family's life. Life is about life; it's NOT about war. Apparently we make war because we like it, ergo something is terribly W-rong with U.S.

Pro-Life whatever is completely discredited. It needs new leadership anyway.

We should be talking about all women's control over all of their own lives. IMO, that includes RU486.

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12. a husband and two sons

yes i love my males too. two manly men brothers, love them too. a manly man confused republican father, love him with all my heart

two manly men nephews. without a mother. they suck me dry..............and i love them dearly

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13. Yes, well . . . .

and as to the Culture of Death that arises out of men who don't feel like men unless there's a War, so they can have whatever meaning t/he/y can't find otherwise, And the absolute wreck that those facts inflict on others who have much better things to do than assure men that they are men by going to, or cheerleading for, War . . . . ?

This seems the height of phoniness to me. I'm just very disgusted with alllll of the BS about men. It's tiresome and boring, not to mention a lot of pain, suffering and death.