I hope all these hunters and farmers get what's coming to them

[iceman_419]

The alpha wolf that led a famous Denali National Park pack in Alaska was killed by a hunter last weekend.
The wolf was the alpha male of Denali's Toklat family, a group of wolves that has been studied for more than six decades and which has often seen by visitors to the national park. The wolf was shot legally by a guided hunter after it ventured out of the park boundary, officials said.
The 7-year-old wolf, which was identified by a radio collar that had been attached by researchers, was one of several recent losses for the much-studied and frequently photographed Toklat group.
The alpha wolf had been behaving erratically and wandering near an area outside the park where two females, including the alpha's mate, were killed in traps in the last two months after they had left the park in search of food.
A 55-square-mile buffer outside the park protects wolves from hunters and trappers, but conservation groups and animal welfare activists say that it is too small.
Cathie Harms, a spokeswoman for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, said the alpha's death would not affect Alaska's wolf population.
"One wolf out of a statewide population of 7,000 to 11,000 has no biological impact," Harms said. "It is significant to people who have developed an attachment for a particular pack of wolves or an individual wolf."

What a freakin pussy. Anyone who hunts with weapons is a pussy and should be shot. Why not take the animal on one on one. I tell you I hope this hunter gets what is coming to him and he is taken out on a hunt one day. Because one human out of a 2,000,000 wn't affect the population. Fucking pussy.

[SympatheticBrit]

1. ?!

Are you suggesting that an animal that is a danger to people and/or other animals should not be dealt with? Every individual has the right to protect his/herself and his/her people surely.

[China_cat]

5. Wolves are not and have never been a danger to people.

There is not one recorded attack by wolves on human beings EVER. Ever.

[pretzel4gore]

10. there's a heartrending short story about foxes

i read a few years ago. The story's true, from when the writer was a kid. Foxes were killing poultry around the area. In the spring, the farmers went out and tracked down the foxden. They dug out the baby foxes, killing all but one, which they took back to the farm, as a lure to the mother....they chained the baby to a stake, the mother came later and, after determining no one nearby, she ran up, grabbed baby and took off, but the chain! she fled (the boy who wrote story was in a nearby barn, watching through a crack)...next day, she visited baby again, nursing it, attending it after trying to pull it free....she buried the chain in desperate effort to save him; but that didn't work....after 3rd visit, she played with the little fox and spent a long time mothering him before she killed him. It was hardest story i've ever read, i think.

[wildeyed]

2. I don't have issues with people hunting 'prey' animals,

Deer, rabbits and the like. I eat meat, so I don't feel that I am in a position to judge there at all.

I do not understand why hunting predators who is allowed. You can't eat them, and mostly they pose little threat to people. So hunting them must just be for sport.

From my admittedly limited reading, the understanding I have is that predators take forever to raise their young and don't reproduce quickly. So hunting them seriously unbalances the ecosystem.

[slor]

3. Sad story...

maybe people should be banned from those areas for a few years

[blogslut]

4. misguided anger

From the story:

"The alpha wolf had been behaving erratically and wandering near an area outside the park where two females, including the alpha's mate, were killed in traps in the last two months after they had left the park in search of food.

A 55-square-mile buffer outside the park protects wolves from hunters and trappers, but conservation groups and animal welfare activists say that it is too small."

Isn't this the real issue?

[oscar111]

6. prey animals, good riddance: MOSQUITOES are prey animals

i am on the side of herbivores

as to about the second or third re,

prey aminals hurt the prey.
that's who.

be done with sharks, tigers, and the like. Toss in with them, the prey animals called flies and all disease organisms.

Kindness is the core of the LW.

Imagine a LW world, free of all suffering --- as a paraphrase of what John Lennon sang.

Only suffering i have no cure for, is romantic mismatches. LOL

[B Calm]

7. I have a friend who lives in Northern Minnesota. He lost his

St. Bernard to the protected timber wolves.

[kodi]

11. sorry to hear of it.

i own several kuvasz who togther can defend themselves from wolves. kuvasz are used for predator control in the west, protecting livestock from wolves, bears, and big cats.

my big female (150 pounds) named kodi fought off a pack of 10-11 dogs when she was 6 years old, killing several before i got to the scene. i heard the sounds of the fight a half mile away and got there within minutes, but there was kodi, back to a fence, a bloody muzzle, with three dogs dead at her feet and the rest circling. had her 2 kuvasz packmates been with her they would have killed all the dogs.

kodi's sister Aja was 75 pounds at 12 months and ripped the throat out of a rotweiller who attacked me at a park. that rottie was twice aja's size. it was like watching bruce lee fight hulk hogan. the fight was over in 30 seconds with Aja killing the dog as soon as it tried to bite me. luckily, the police saw the rottie attack me, as i was walking Aja on a lease, and all they did was cite the owner of the dead rottie for not having him on a lease.

had i not seen it with my own eyes i would not have believed how tough a kuvasz was. i will always own at least 2 kuvasz to protect me.

[bperci108]

8. Good grief.

"...I tell you I hope this hunter gets what is coming to him and he is taken out on a hunt one day. Because one human out of a 2,000,000 wn't affect the population. Fucking pussy."

:wow:


There's so much wrong here, I don't even know where to start.

You need to get a grip, pal. Seriously. :(

[WearyOne]

9. only animal allowed on the earth appears to be man

[CrispyQ]

12. and whatever species we choose to domesticate for pets,

and subjugate for food.

[aeolian]

13. "Anyone who hunts with weapons is a pussy and should be shot."

Well, leaving the internal irony of that statement aside, that would have meant the end of our species 500,000 years ago.



But, I agree on the main point: there is no need to hunt a wolf. Unless you're going to eat all that wolf meat, or wear its pelt.

[Heidi]

14. That dominion is ours (humans') alone is a fundie myth . . .

which is at odds with the reality that we've been encroaching on carnivores' territory for hundreds of years. I once lived in a ski resort town where the government leased the mountains to the ski resorts, pushing many animals away from their natural territory and into residential areas. Guess what happened then? It became acceptable for us humans to shoot them for coming into "our" territory.

There are two or more sides to every story, friend.

[Moderator]

15. Locking.....

This is inflammatory. Please feel
free to repost without the inflammatory
language and broad-brush attacks.



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