My experience with Just Us Sunday

[ChickMagic]

Derby and I steeled ourselves and participated in a Baptist Justice Sunday. I had to go to Ben and Jerry's afterward to get the taste out of my mouth. The church was across the street from the Baptodome - it wasn't big at all, so I couldn't pull any of the hijinks I wanted to pull.

It was truly frightening. They started with the pledge of alliegance and then a children's choir sang a song about child warriors for Jesus. On the broadcast, one of the speakers held a bible in one hand and a gavel in the other saying that judges shouldn't have to choose between the two.

They showed huge pictures of Democrats and moderate Republicans with their senate phone numbers urging the faithful to call. It looked like wanted posters.

They claim that a filibuster removes the balance of power. They relied heavily on the Federalist Papers for their arguments. They believe that congress has the right to overrule the Supremes.

Frist claims that justice nominees have never been denied and up or down vote until 2 years ago. He pins the coining of the phrase "nuclear option" on the Dems.

Charles Pickering said that there has never been an appointment denied before Bush's presidency. He made a very strange statement (other than the obvious). He said that when Paul Revere was looking at the lanterns in the Old North Church, nobody screamed about separation of church and state.

All the while, people at the church were applauding. In one instance, the pastor of the church in Kentucky asked people to raise their hands if they were going to call the senate. Oddly, people in our congregation raised their hands.

We, of course, went by pseudonyms. Derby was Dick Cox. I couldn't help it. We can't have them googling us, can we?

If I had to boil it down, I'd say run for the hills! Force the Dems to do their jobs! :scared:

[ChickMagic]

1. Self promoting kick

:kick:

[Coastie for Truth]

2. Frist Lies - Santorum Lies

Rickie Santorum sent "Blue Sheets" on three "Law and Order" Dem Federal Prosecutors -- in Pittsburgh PA alone.

Hint: That denied them an "Up or Down" Vote. One of them was a classmate of Thornburgh and Hatch, and a tough prosecutor who sent GOP and Dem corrupt politicos to jail. (Maybe he was on the trail of Rickie or a Rickie backer)

[ChickMagic]

4. Oh, I know they lie

But the faithful in the Baptist church ate it up.

[bryant69]

3. Good report

Nobody had ever had their appointment denied? Someone should tell all those Clinton Judges who got turned down.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[ChickMagic]

5. Thanks

No kidding. They've only blocked 10 out of 200 or so - same as Clinton, same as Reagan.

[Inland]

6. Is there really a place called a "Baptodome"

or are you making it up?

[derby378]

8. fudge strip cookays came up with the name, I think

I gotta tell ya - it FITS. You should see that thing up close.

[fudge stripe cookays]

96. No, not us.

We call it the "Worship Bowl." :D

FSC

[Az]

7. If they are going to play the children warriors for god card its only fair

The Children warriors for god relates to the Crusades of 1212. In this particular crusade the righteous leaders of the Christians interested in destroying the infidels decided that God would protect the innocent. Thus they mustered an army made entirely of children. They then proceeded to march this army of children over the mountains towards the Holy Land.

The majority of the children died enroute. Those that made it to the Holy Land were quickly captured and sold into slavery.

Children Warriors for God.

[ChickMagic]

9. Oh yeah, I know about the Children's Crusade

It was the total brainwashing of those cute little kids that made my skin crawl. I do think one matron was on to me. I couldn't help giving the hairy eyeball to Derby.

[alfredo]

81. Most of the kids were street urchins.

It was an easy way to get rid of a "bad element."

[ChickMagic]

82. True enough

But the same could probably be said about the crusaders. Bums.

[alfredo]

89. The only difference between that crusade and bush's, the

soldiers are educated.

[Jo March]

10. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for going in without body armor! Wow. You are braver than I am.

This is what they want - the faithful coming to their rescue. If this goes through, say bye bye to election reform and hello to the dictatorship that * has always wanted.

[ChickMagic]

11. Wow, thanks!

:loveya:

I truly took a bullet for you guys.

[Jo March]

12. You truly did! I haven't been in a Baptist church since I was 14

I know that not all Baptist churches are like this but the Southern Baptist Convention churches tend to be this way.

Some of those matrons can be very, very scary. :scared:

[ChickMagic]

14. I swore I'd never darken their door again

when I was a teenager. It was Church Lady heaven for sure.

[Jo March]

17. I did too! I swore up and down that I would never go to another one

I haven't since then. I've gone to a church from every denomination except Catholic so far. I'm Methodist by choice now.

I still remember one matron who told me and my sister that if my family was too poor to buy new Easter dresses, then the church could take up a collection for us. We were poor but we had on nice, clean dresses - just not new. The sting of her tone has stayed with me since then. I was so embarrassed that I wanted to sink into the pew or the floor.

Hateful old woman. She was always making nasty remarks to our family because we didn't have money and our father was a drunk. She was mean.

[ChickMagic]

19. I've seen that very thing

When my brother died, the pastor got up in front of the entire congregation and told them that if my mother was living a godly life, she wouldn't have lost her son.

[Jo March]

21. Oh my gosh! Our pastor told my mom that my dad wouldn't drink

if she was a better wife!

I can't believe some of the stuff that these supposed men of God will say!

Wow, oh wow.

Well, thank you for your work on the front lines. Better you than me, I have to say.

[ChickMagic]

23. It wasn't easy

Knowing I was going as proxy for you guys helped, I've got to say.
What is it with those horrible pastors demonizing women. Oh, right. I forgot. They're paying for Eve's transgression.

[Jo March]

27. Ah, yes. Eve. She is the rationale for holding women down

Nothing like the lack of forgiveness, is there?

Well, here's to you:

:bounce: :yourock: :thumbsup:

[ChickMagic]

51. Adam knew better

but he ate the fruit anyway, didn't he? For a forgiving bunch, they surely can hold a grudge.

[Jo March]

65. I had a right-wing friend who used that against me a lot

In every argument, he'd bring up Eve.

They do hold a grudge!

[FreedomAngel82]

73. Really

Nobody ever gets on to Adam. Just like now days with them. Nobody ever gets onto them for their nonsense.

[FreedomAngel82]

72. Oh good God

That's horrible. These people don't have any Godly love at all.

[tridim]

55. Yea, I went with a friend once when I was 15

They told me flat out that I was a bad person and that I was going to hell. It was disgusting. Had I been a bit more outspoken then I probably would have told them to fuck off right there.

It was one of many distinct events in my adolescence that made me despise 99% of organized religion.

[ChickMagic]

57. They're amazing

When I was 11 years old, the preacher wanted all the young people to go to the front of the church and make a promise to God that they would never touch a drop of alcohol. I didn't go, and I was the only one. My parents were pushing me and I said, "How am I supposed to know what I'll do when I grow up? I'm not going to lie." Of course, I was singled out as hellbound.

[Jo March]

66. People don't understand or want to see what organized

religion can do. It's not a nice picture.

[FreedomAngel82]

74. Brainwashing

Seems like what it is with a lot of them. Not every church is like that of course but seems like more then enough are.

[ChickMagic]

87. More than my comfort level allows

They're the minority, but boy, can they ever make people think they stand for the average American.

[anarchy1999]

26. Yes, GinBarn and Derby, you guys are my new heroes! I can't believe you

guys subjected yourselves to that degree of torture and on such a beautiful day. My hat is off to you both! Which church was it? And "Baptodome", would that possibly be Prestonwood? That is the true "Baptodome", or at least it has the dubious honor of being first in this area, IMHO.

I did think about Prestonwood yesterday and frightened myself near to death.

[ChickMagic]

36. It wasn't the Baptodome

But yes, that's Prestonwood Baptist. Hell, their old church was gigantic. This one is unbelievable. We went to the First Baptist Church of Hebron. They were the only church to advertise the service on Focus on Your Own Damn Family.

[anarchy1999]

45. Ah yes, now I remember, I did look it up to see where the fun was going to

be on Sunday. Hebron is a scary little suburb, isn't it?

Jeez, you guys were incredibly brave or maybe a little sado-masochistic. It had to have been hard to do, hopefully, Derby got some pics. Did you have a hidden cam with you?

[ChickMagic]

52. Really scary

I sacrificed myself for my beloved DUers. :nopity: Derby had a camera. He got audio, and maybe some pictures. I'm not sure. I'm sure he'll post them.

[derby378]

95. No pictures, just video

Don't think I can show them on DU - not enough bandwidth.

[Tux]

40. Yeah

I'm surprized no one was upset about seeing a political film at a time when they got together to worship God. Odd how that worked out. Maybe God and Jesus now takes the forms of Republicians? At any rate, their tax excemption should be removed for this crap because it may ge worse over time.

[liberalitch]

13. In other words Leni Riefenstahl would have loved to...

have been there...
"The Faithful" were blinded by her imagry too!
They should've hung that Nazi bitch!

[ChickMagic]

15. Oh yeah

Leni is dancing in her grave over this. I'm certain of it. I can only hope that we, as a nation, have the stones to try these lying sacks in my lifetime.

[liberalitch]

16. We need to target every US congress person who spoke..

or attended last night....
So far I have gathered:
Frist
Pickering
Santorum

Who else?

[ChickMagic]

18. Here's the names I took down

Besides the ones you list. Some congress critters, some not.

Chuck Colson
James Dobson
Al Mohler
Sen. Frist
Bishop Jackson
Bill Donahue (Catholic League)
Charles Pickering

[Norquist Nemesis]

34. UGH! Bill Donahue

Chris Mathews keeps putting him on Hardball so he can shout and shoot nasty insults at Liberals (both those appearing on the show and Liberals in general).

Can't stand to listen to the guy anymore and have to hit the mute or change channel when ever he comes on.

[ChickMagic]

37. He was awful

It was hard to keep my bile down. ACTING!!!!

[renaissanceguy]

20. I hope you'll contact the IRS

and get their tax-free status revoked.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272015

[ChickMagic]

22. I'm not sure if it qualifies at this particular church

They showed the feed and the pastor urged people to call their senators. I need a constitutional lawyer to give me some advice here. I don't trust the IRS to give me the straight story.

[Larkspur]

24. This reminds me of George Orwell's "2 Minute Hate" in his book 1984

That's what these Fundie religious orgasms seem to me.

[ChickMagic]

25. I hadn't thought of that

Because it was 1 1/2 hour hate. I got reminded of tired butt I used to get in church when I was a kid.

[Fenris]

28. It's tragic how they prey on people who are uninformed

Frist claims that justice nominees have never been denied and up or down vote until 2 years ago. He pins the coining of the phrase "nuclear option" on the Dems.

Charles Pickering said that there has never been an appointment denied before Bush's presidency.

It's so sad that many if not most of those people don't know what complete nonsense this is. :(

[ChickMagic]

29. That's what I got from it

They were playing the martyr card big time. None of these people had any inkling that what they were being told were outright lies. Derby and I thought about getting up and rebutting some of it, but the Hitler Youth had the sanctuary scheduled.

[Fenris]

32. Exploiting the religious

Tragic.

[Horse with no Name]

39. And it is also just as sad

That our party leaders aren't shouting "Liar Liar Pants on Fire" from every rooftop.

[ChickMagic]

42. I know!

There's a wealth of documentation out there proving the "righteous" to be liars, but they, for the most part, don't use it. It drives me NUTS!

[Tux]

46. It is sad

But I noticed that many people in conservative churches tend to be uneducated, in hard times or were, and completely in the dark about what is going on. Evangelicals use cult recruitment methods (been a subject of it a couple times) to gain members and the above characteristics is what they look for.

Lost your job? Jesus can help you. The less education, the less informed they are, the more they drink the Kool-Aid.

[FreedomAngel82]

77. Exactly

In my college class at church the teacher brought up how the false prophets are (Falwell, Dobson Robertson) etc. and how they say on TV to send this amount of money and they'll promise this will happen or that will happen. It's how they work.

[FreedomAngel82]

76. The reason why he does that

is because he knows they'll eat it up. He knows they don't know anything about politics for the most part. They just vote republican because they say a few scriptures here and there and their stance on abortion and whatnot. It's really ridiculous how they are. They prey on these people for a reason and use and abuse them spiritually and emotionally for their own greed. I wrote to Frist and told him that myself and I'm sure he knows and doesn't give a damn. He's taking orders from someone else since he is the majority leader.

[anarchy1999]

30. I'd like to take this moment in time and ask everyone to check out this

very long four part series from 2002 about our Right-Wing Fundamentalist, "Christian" Coalition, "Focus on the Family", wing-nuts and their ties to Reverend Moon.

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

The Unholy Alliance -

The Bilderbergs.
The Trilateral Commission.
The Council of Foreign Relations.
The Central Intelligence Agency.

Most everyone has heard of these groups and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding them regarding the development of the 'New World Order.'

Now imagine for a moment there is something to this (and there appears to be no lack of documented material justifying these theories). That would mean that at almost every elevated level of business and government, world wide, men and women have infiltrated, become the controlling administrators and are working to effectively control every aspect of the life of the "world citizen."

One aspect of this that has not been properly searched out is the "religious" connection. Surely, given that much of the world is religious, and in the currently reigning SuperPower nation of the U.S., predominantly "Christian," then it would only make sense that these organizations have infiltrated the Church itself and are also actively leading it to into the New World Order as well.

Do the worlds leading Christian evangelicals have ties to these organizations?

Yes they do, and it is thoroughly documented.
....go to link above for a very well documented and scary piece.

I know many here discount "rense", but this is one amazing document.

Please read.

Ignore it at your own peril.

[FreedomAngel82]

78. Oh wow

It all makes sense!! Of course. Why didn't I see it at the time? They use these huge big churches and people like Falwell etc. for the new world order. It's easy and was easy to slip through the republican party because of how they always have catered to the religious.

[NoPasaran]

31. Congratulations on attending the Passion of the Frist

And living to tell the tale!

[Califooyah Operative]

33. haha.

passion of the frist, that's awesome

[ChickMagic]

35. LOL

I love that! "Passion of the Frist". Sweet! I nearly backed out at the last minute, but I soldiered on in the trenches. I could hear the bullets whizzing past my head, but I stayed the course. I was even nice (except for the hairy eyeballs I kept giving Derby).

[KansDem]

38. I swear, Republicans write their truths on an Etch-a-Sketch...

Frist claims that justice nominees have never been denied and up or down vote until 2 years ago. He pins the coining of the phrase "nuclear option" on the Dems.

Hello? Clinton appointees anyone?

The Repubs record their truths on an Etch-a-Sketch, then, when those truths come back to bite them in their butts, they merely turn the thing upside down and shake it...


Breaking: Republicans announced today that they will rewrite the US Constitution on an Etch-a-Sketch...

Etch-a-Sketch jpg from http://www.josephinedemocrats.org/Documents/garrisonkeillor.htm

[ChickMagic]

44. Great analogy!

Frist went on to say that his detractors say, "Well, what will you do when the democrats are the majority and they have the same power?" Frist said, "I would still be against filibusters." LIAR! They like them just fine when they are in the minority, and that's what they are for.

[FreedomAngel82]

92. LOL

Oh what a liar. He won't even be there, that's why!!! He's NOT running for re-election on his seat. Knowing my state I'd say Corker will probably have his seat (r).

[Roland99]

41. Kudos to you! BTW, check out their utter HYPOCRISY!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1743313

[ChickMagic]

47. I saw that

I think they're counting on their faithful to be uninformed. By my summation, they are right about that.

[Roland99]

53. That's why their followers are called sheep

At Central Presbyterian Church I saw TRUE Christians. People who think about issues, respect others, and have a true love of their god.

[Oreo]

43. Thanks for the report. My email to Frist

Senator Frist,
It never ceases to amaze me how hypocritical extremists are that pose as Christians. The people you are aligning yourself with are not Christians. They are extremists... no better than Muslim extremists posing as Muslims.

Here is a perfect example of their hypocrisy. You and your party will be defeated in 2006 and it will be directly related to all of your party's corruption and power-mad and arrogant actions.

When it suited its own purposes, the Family Research Council had no trouble urging use of the filibuster. People for the American Way (PFAW) reports (received by e-mail):

The Family Research Council is demanding that Senate Republicans override Senate rules in order to ban filibusters against judicial nominees and has made false and inflammatory charges that the filibuster is being used to keep people of faith and specifically Christians off the courts. But several years ago, a senior Family Research Council official defended a Senate filibuster against gay ambassadorial nominee James Hormel, who was viciously attacked by radical right groups.

PFAW writes that in 1998, then-Senior FRC Writer and Analyst Steven Schwalm, appearedg on NPRs Talk of the Nation and had this to say about the filibuster against James Hormel, President Clinton's ambassadorial nominee:

...the Senate is a -- is not a majoritarian institution like the House of Representatives is. It is a deliberative body and it's got a number of checks and balances built into our government. This is one of those checks, in which a majority cannot just sheerly force its will, even if they have a majority of votes in some cases, that's why there are things like filibusters and other things that give minorities in the Senate some power to slow things up, to hold things up, and let things be aired properly.

I look forward to seeing you as a part of the minority soon and we'll see how often you choose to filibuster. Hypocrite. Cat Killer.

[ChickMagic]

50. Terrific!

I especially love the "cat killer" thrown in at the end. I'm going to email him later today with pretty much the same message. Ugh.

[FreedomAngel82]

80. Only thing is

Frist isn't running again for re-election for his seat so he doesn't care about being in the minority again. He probably is trying to run for 2008 since he is catering to the right people and all. Ex-mayor Corker (r) and Ford junior (d) are running for his seat.

[FreedomAngel82]

79. Good letter

Probably will ignore it though. Sad. I wrote him and he "wrote" me back. Heh heh. Maybe this can be something we can use for more moderate republicans to help us in 2006?

[progressoid]

48. Yep, Kudos for doing this but...

what are we going to do to combat this???

p.s. It gives me the willies just thinking about going to something like that.

[ChickMagic]

56. The rational religious people have to speak out

I think they are beginning to get angry because they are being labeled anti-religion. They've never wanted to speak out for fear of that label. Now they are getting it and I think they are the key.

[progressoid]

59. What about us rational irreligious people??

Oh, that's right. I forgot. We are troublemakers.

Actually, I agree with you. It is up to the faithful to turn this around.

I do wonder about the legality of this assembly however. But who in Washington is willing to investigate or prosecute any infractions? Perhaps the press will look into it....

:spray:

Just kidding

[ChickMagic]

61. Oh yeah, the MSM will be all over this

NOT. Nobody's going to listen to an irreligious person like myself. It really does have to come from the faithful. I hope they know that they are targeted too.

[Bouncy Ball]

49. My UU church celebrated Justice Sunday

but it was a few Sundays back (are the fundies on a different calendar? LOL) and there were no guest speakers or Senate phone numbers. The topic: how can we make sure everyone has access to clean water?

Hmmm. Very different from what you experienced, sounds like. We were talking about justice for EVERYONE on the planet, in the form of the most basic human need: water.

[TWiley]

54. Church is the propaganda duct for the bushtapo.

Church radio around here is simply horrid. It can not be described as "Christ-like" (definition of Christian) in any way.

They have built this huge make-believe world around themselves that has absolutely no basis in fact. I have heard heated discussions on weather a Christian can be "possessed" by the devil after being saved, or on weather or not rotted bodies will rise from the grave during the "rapture". Each speaks with genuine authority, and cites an incoherent collection of bible verses as fact to back their argument.

Once they get people to believe in this bullshit, it is easy to sell them on various political agenda's as they are easier to understand and swallow.

Sunday school has become a university for understanding constitutional law, and most that I have heard is confederate in general.

Look for things to get much much worse in this arena as the bushtapo increases "faith based initiatives" funding from 20 BILLION to 40 BILLION dollars next year.

Funding for these charlatans is one of the only government programs which actually has a budget greater than it has been able to spend.

[ChickMagic]

58. As far as I know

they have only awarded money to Judeo-Christian groups. Others have applied, but were denied. I don't have a link for that, but I do remember it.

[catmandu57]

60. These "people"

are fucking scary, lazy, uninformed know nothings, who haven't an ounce of curiousity in them, and are going to drag the rest of us over the abyss whether we want to go or not.
I remember one judge in particular Ronnie White from missouri, nominated by Clinton, but shot down without a hearing by our then senator asscrack.If I remember correctly there was a great bally hou by the fundies when this happened, talk about cognitive dissonce and selective memory.

These "people" scare the living shit out of me.

[ChickMagic]

62. I sat among them

It was a little like when Damien was dragged into a church in The Omen. They totally believe what they are told with absolutely no critical thought whatsoever.

I forgot to mention that "poor Terry Schiavo" was also part of the discussion. You see, we murder fetuses and the brain dead.

[satya]

63. Thanks for taking a bullet for your band of DU brothers & sisters!

Don't know if I could've sat thru that--would have dredged up too many memories of my Southern Baptist upbringing.
:scared:

[ChickMagic]

64. Yup - I was brought up that way too

and it was really, really hard to go. I did it so you didn't have to.

[Danmel]

67. "Go Home & Be a Good Wife"

I have a friend who is very Catholic. She was married to an abusive alcoholic who hit her, raped her and verbally abused her. He was just a total disaster.

After he smacked her around one day, she went to her priest. She told him that her husband had come home drunk at 2 in the morning, forced her to have sex and hit her in the face. The priest told her to "Go home and be a good wife"

She told me this and was in tears and said how can I get a divorce? I'll be thrown out of the church And I asked her if she believed in God and Jesus and she said she did. So I asked her if she thought that God and Jesus love her and she said she did. So I said, well if they love you, do you think they would really want you to suffer like this? Or is the Priest just totally out of touch and clueless?

I told her to go find a support group for divorced Catholics and to find another Priest because surely there would be a Priest out there who would NOT advise her to stay in a physically abusive relationship. Thankfully she got divorced before the creep killed her.


Sometime I really wonder what these people's "Moral Values" are? How could anyone with moral values excuse rape and physical abuse? How could they make HER feel like she was the one who was wrong? Moral values? I think not.

[ChickMagic]

69. It's even worse than the priests

The women buy into it too. When I was in an abusive marriage, my mother told me it was against God to get a divorce. It was all my fault, I'd brought it on myself, I made my bed and I had to lie in it. That whole mindset is horrible.

You said the right things to that friend of yours. :yourock:

[FreedomAngel82]

84. That's wrong

That's wrong. You can get a divorce if you're being abused or adultry. I really don't think God would want you to be abused like that.

[ChickMagic]

86. I can't see that either

But the women in my family certainly bought it. I was severely chastised for even thinking about divorce. My own mother!

[FreedomAngel82]

93. Sad

They don't check their own Bible's even. *sigh* Somewhere in the Old Testament (I can't think of it right now off the top of my head) it mentions how you can get a divorce for abuse or adultry.

[FreedomAngel82]

83. That's horrible

What type of Godly person would say that to someone who was clearly being abused? My God.

[mark414]

68. report em to the IRS

as someone said above

if they want to involve themselves in politics then make sure they pay taxes

[FreedomAngel82]

85. It's worth looking into

I'd look into it and since you (orginial poster) said there was video and audio so there is proof.

[ChickMagic]

88. I think they may have just skirted the law on this

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=120703,00.html

Political Campaign Activity

Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise tax.
Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including the presentation of public forums and the publication of voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity.

In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not constitute prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner. On the other hand, voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that: (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.

**************************

The pastor was merely asking the congregants to call the senate. They were not endorsing one candidate over another. It was clearly partisan, but there were Republicans thrown into the "call list" as well.

[CitySky]

70. thank you for your report

i know some of these people, and am still perplexed about how we can ever "reach" them, as Gov. Dean seems to think we can.

hey y'all, if you ever want to stage a fascist takeover of a free and democratic nation, make sure you give yourselves a 30-year head start on undermining any decent free public education for the massess - can't have them knowing any history, now.

[ChickMagic]

75. CitySky

You're a person after my own heart. I've been telling everyone I know that this started 25-30 years ago. Education is the key, and they've been systematically undermining it for a long time.

[FreedomAngel82]

71. Sounds awful

Thanks for the update. I think we should spread the word around about this crap and call and write the people they targeted and show our support. It's sad they're even eating their own people who uphold the law. These people are disgusting and have to be stopped. The Bible is NOT our law.

[dxstone]

90. Good of you to go into the mouth of madness for us like that...

Love your play on words there, btw... seems like instant irony is everywhere these days...
DXS
"God save us ALL from the religious people."
http://presidentevilonline.com

[Solly Mack]

91. Thank you! How did you maintain a calm face?

No way I could have...my face would have been contorted from the sheer horror of it all..


Just reading your account gave me the big eye saucer look...

[FreedomAngel82]

94. Same here

I would've just got up and left. Malloy played some of the clips tonight and I was just sickened. How many people were there? One person called in who said they went to one of these events and said only about thirty people showed up and a lot of them were elderly. :shrug: