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Mon Apr-25-05 05:38 PM
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What if the Secret Service is telling the truth about Gannon? |
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Frankly, I never bought the idea that Gannon was blackmailing the White House since his presence there was beneficial to the White House. I also was dubious about the notion that he had actually been checked out by the Secret Service. Now, apparently, he was checked out by the Secret Service. Just what does it say that a man engaged in illegal activity, has websites devoted to said illegal activity, and who owes taxes to the state of Delaware can get access to the White House on 150 occasions?
It says we were damn lucky. Instead of a salacious, sad, and bizarely hypocritical story about a White House that knows no bounds in seeding the press with false tales, we could have had a tragic story about a terrorist infultrating the White House and mowing down the head of state. Heck, he could have taken out Blair too. It doesn't take the head writer of 24 to imagine a senario where a terrorist group used a Gannon like figure to wreak havoc upon the White House.
I had honestly hoped that someone snuck this guy in without any Secret Service involvement. It turns out that isn't the case. Either the Secret Service is lying, which I doubt, or our White House security is a total mess. As much fun as the hypocrisy of a pro family party with a homosexual prostitution scandal might be, the real problem here is that in the age of 9/11 our security is total crap. Airport security is literally a joke. Terrorism numbers are worse than any year since 1985. And now, the White House is evidently able to be penetrated by the least well hidden male prositute since Midnight Cowboy. Forget about Bolten for the UN, put him in charge of security. We need someone who kicks ass and takes names in security. In the meantime, the real scandal is that almost 4 years later we apparently haven't learned one thing from 9/11.
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Mon Apr-25-05 05:43 PM
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1. If Bolton is as abusive and bad as they say |
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(and he apparently is), he isn't good for much of anything except possibly a prison guard...No, after thinking about it, not even that.
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Mon Apr-25-05 05:43 PM
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2. I'm more concerned about the other salacious sex story at 1600 |
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The entire nation has now bent over and Bush is our assmaster
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:57 PM
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why did they let him through? They were probably told by somebody to let him in. My question's are: 1) Who told them 2) What was he doing in those hours he wasn't in the press room?
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Mon Apr-25-05 05:50 PM
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3. Or maybe the WH neocons aren't really worried about terrorism because |
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Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 05:52 PM by satya
the terrorists are working for them? And they're just using fear as a method of controlling the rest of us? (Not to mention the cash cow all this increased "security" has been for some of them).
:tinfoilhat:
Edited to add: I absolutely agree with you that "the real scandal is that almost 4 years later we apparently haven't learned one thing from 9/11." I'm just not quite sure yet what the lesson is...
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:28 PM
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:04 PM
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4. What if Bush doesn't like bald heads, he just likes rubbing |
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head?
What if that wasn't a bald manwhore working in the Whitehouse, a hairy one?
What if Bush could look like a man with out trying to act like one?
Oh the What if's that could have been....
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:30 PM
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6. You might revisit Rawstory's documentation. |
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Mr. Gannon was in the White House on over 200 occasions. And some of those passes where requested by White House staff. Some of those "visits" were on days when there was no press briefing, and there are other anomalies.
Nobody sneaks into this White House 200 times.
And if anything, it looks like the Secret Service guys were the only ones who did do their job. We don't know what their instructions were with regards to Mr. Gannon. But they did keep records of his movements in the WH.
It's not up to them to make this call. Their job is to check the identity of the guy and weigh in if they believe there is a threat. Put another way, it's unlikely the Mr. Gannon would have gotten in unless someone explicitly instructed the SS to clear him.
We don't know what the SS knew about him except what they've been allowed to release so far.
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:42 PM
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7. I thought the SS job was to clear these people |
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I realize that on somethings they can be overruled but on this I thought they had a free reign.
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:45 PM
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8. No. They're cops, they don't issue invitations. n/t |
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Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 06:46 PM by sfexpat2000
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:49 PM
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9. What was he doing there? |
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Shouldn't that be the question?
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:52 PM
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10. I would think so. Why was this guy in our White House? n/t |
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:01 PM
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13. What was he doing there and for whom was he doing it? |
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Or to whom, as the case may be.
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:09 PM
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14. This isn't looking good for the Empire, is it? |
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I'm giving this another 24 hours to get be taken up by the corporate media. If it's not, well, that's another piece of information.
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:52 PM
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Mon Apr-25-05 06:59 PM
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They did keep logs on him so that's something. Who in the White House is allowed to give them orders??
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:11 PM
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15. I don't know and that's an important question. |
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Andy Card? Rove? Who else besides the Resident and Vice Resident?
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:12 PM
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16. I don't think it was a matter of security...with them, there are insiders |
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Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 07:13 PM by higher class
and outsiders. Jeff was in.
Hold a free event with Bush speaking...some are in, everyone else is out.
If we knew that he was in the WH on over 200 occasions and the SS hadn't recorded the occasions, we could talk security risk.
The next question to the WH should be - can someone enter the WH with a known person on the pass of the known person.
Then, a question for fun...did he nap in the Lincoln bedroom?
Then, the last question...how upset will the public be? Will they dismiss it even though, to this day, - few dismiss Clinton - even some on DU and all the right wing talking heads.
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:18 PM
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people will get upset is if it's talked about on MSM that people watch. Other wise: who would know?
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:17 PM
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17. It wasn't a security lapse. |
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You have to remember what the nashuaadvocate reported a while back that the Daschle campaign found out about Gannon being a former escort well before 2004 and informed various reporters. They did nothing, reported nothing.
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:29 PM
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19. compare his record and his access to the WH |
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to the access of ordinary citizens to the little bushturd's PR stops.
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Mon Apr-25-05 08:03 PM
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23. WHY don't they have a record of WHO G/G visited while in the WH? |
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People can't just check in and wander all over the place Willy Nilly! Or maybe Willy can!
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Mon Apr-25-05 08:27 PM
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25. depends on whose Willy you're talking about |
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:41 PM
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20. dsc brought up the question of this presidency and that is, |
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what did we learn from 9/11?
Maybe I'm just out there, but what I've learned is that 1) Bu$hCo can't be trusted and 2) 9/11 gave his administration cover for nearly every one of their abuses.
I trust the SS documentation more than I'd trust anything out of Scott McClellan's mouth any day of the week.
What the Cabal learned was that they had a handy hammer for anyone who gets out of line. Two hammers, if you count their pimping Fristianity.
Some smart reporter (broad hint) needs to chart who in the WH can approve passes. The SS clears them for risk of threat, but there must be a short list somewhere of who can generate them.
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Mon Apr-25-05 07:45 PM
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21. The real story is that a Male Prostitute for Hire was accepted by the SS.. |
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and had access to the WH anytime he wanted. Forget his Press Creditians crap and the missing sign in's and sign outs, the guy had access anytime he wanted to the WH and that means he was INVITED/WELCOME...A BIG SIGN!
WELCOME JIMMY/JEFF WE ALL NEED YOUR "SERVICE."
How much plainer does it have to get that this is no Monica Gate...this is a Male Advertiser on Porn Sites of his 8 1/2 inch "cut" and "top only" who pretended he was a journalist and was in there doing "something to or for "someone." :puke:
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Mon Apr-25-05 08:04 PM
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24. I suspect he had access in other places |
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besides the White House, and that may be why there is no-one squawking about this obvious breach (a security breach, a breach of etiquette, whatever). Didn't he mention Biden on his website? And I've heard Barney Frank's name being tossed around as well. If this ever does develop into anything, it could be very interesting, and complicated for a lot of people (but I doubt that it will). Of course, what do I know? We all thought Monica was a silly story that wouldn't matter to real intelligent people in the real world.
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:26 PM
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27. Yes...sadly he probably did and that's why it goes nowhere. But, if folks |
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are covering up for him then what the hell else are they covering. We need to clean it out, but I suspect like you we probably won't be able to do it without alot of help from the MSM..and they may be involved, too.
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:30 PM
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28. Life support needed for this story |
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Unless the major media picks up on this, it will just be another story on the blogs with a dozen or so minor media people reporting it. Nobody wants to touch it, it seems. Is thier anyone on DU who actually knows someone invovled with a major media group.
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Mon Apr-25-05 08:43 PM
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26. One wonders just which Busheviks Gannon was "pitching" to |
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Or maybe "catching". These are some of the world's most powerful monsters since the Nazis, and they might want to be on top like Ernst Roehm, not a Bottom like Horst Wessel.
Almost no question now Gannon was servicing one of more of the High Busheviks.
Isn't it simply astonishing how many homophobes are also secret homosexuals?
Go figure.
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:35 PM
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29. wouldnt Moore or Stewart be getting invovled |
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Wouldnt Michael Moore or Jon Stewart be shouting this out from the rooftops if it could hurt Bush?
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