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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:45 PM
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I saw a video of Shrub today on CNN
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 06:47 PM by Is It Fascism Yet
and he was walking along with a Saudi Prince and they were actually holding hands! Yes, holding hands, walking close, bodies touching, whispering together, looking as if they might soon kiss. I think that is really "Bush's Man Date". I sure wish there were a jpg of that, I feel another home-made button coming to my lapel.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:46 PM
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1. I wonder if the Radical Right has seen it yet.
Or more importantly, the Christian Right.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:50 PM
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4. I don't think the sheeple are catching up with the body language.
It goes by fast on video, I need a jpg so I can put a big red circle around the hands being held, a detail not to be missed, how I would love the fundies to notice this! It's too bad fundies don't do "subtle" because the body language clearly shows where the Chimp's loyalties lie.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:48 PM
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2. Saudi princes do that, and * is prince wanna be. Sort of like when
Nixon wanted to dress the Secret Service in fruity uniforms so he could look like a potentate. Remember that?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:50 PM
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3. No, do you have a link as to what that might have looked like?
Conservatives love to play dress-up.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:52 PM
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6. no, i don't, it was video on cnn, that's what i am asking, does anybody
have a still shot of this wonderful pose? I need it bad.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:59 PM
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9. Picture the dress uniform of the Nigerian Army Officer Corps. I
will try to find a picture.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:10 PM
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14. Looked and apparently it was the White House Guards, not the
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 07:29 PM by rzemanfl
Secret Service (didn't know there was a difference). Found an article, but no picture. It refers to a book that may have a picture. The article gives some flavor of what they were like.

http://experts.about.com/q/337/3669712.htm
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:51 PM
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5. LOL, no, that is funny, LOL.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:54 PM
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7. Get ready to lose your lunch














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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:59 PM
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8. OMG they really ARE gonna kiss any minute, I love the dress!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:02 PM
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11. Shrub thinking
Well, he's not Guckert, but I guess he'll do.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:00 PM
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10. Thanks for the jpegs, u r the best! n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:06 PM
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12. You should make up a story
to go along with the pix, turn it into a graphic novel.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:21 PM
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17. no need to make up anything, the chimp's treasons are for real. n/t
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:11 PM
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15. some of those photos show bush* getting a rise on.....


:rofl:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:17 PM
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16. I love you, I love you, at midnight meet me in the barn.

They had to do this in front of the bluebonnets.

Texas in March and April, so beautiful , wildflowers everywhere.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:21 PM
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18. It's kind of like the most beautiful Hallmark card you've ever seen...
...except it's got two grown men holding hands in the middle of it.

You'd THINK that Bush's "handlers" would have had a word with him after THIS book came out:



...but I guess the Prince's hands must be extra-soft and nice to hold.

Probably softer than Laura's, I'll wager.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:32 PM
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26. At 400K a year, why can't he pay someone to tell him not to wear a brown
belt and black shoes.... and grey pants and a blue jacket....

He might be holding hands with another man and leaning in for a little kiss, but no one would mistake someone that poorly dressed to be gay.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:37 PM
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36. Meeeeeyowwww !
I think Bush would look best in one of the tasteless pink prison uniforms the Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff makes his imprisoned proles wear.

Pink brings out the cute in everyone, don't you agree?
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:06 PM
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13. You guys have GOT to know that this is a cultural thing....right?
I mean you can't possibly be so ignorant of other people's cultures....
Hand holding, even walking with arms around each other is considered a sign of close friendship among middle eastern men with absolutely no homo-erotic overtones.

Your teen-age boy snickering in the corner attitudes do nothing to speak to the intelligence and acceptance which you claim to value in the Democratic worldview.

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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:22 PM
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you have got to know that they are figuratively in bed if not literally,
so, try not to miss the point.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:26 PM
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22. EXACTLY.
Hey, this isn't some homophobic schoolboy "knock-knock joke."

The House of Bush is BATHED in BLOOD.

So FUCK THEM ALL, including the PRINCE.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:24 PM
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21. It's not ignorance of cultural rituals...
...it's the fact that the Prince is holding hands with a fucking idiot.

That's why I'm snickering.

I can't speak for the rest of the folks.

PLUS the fact that the Bush family is wallowing in so much blood money as a result of their being in bed with the Carlyle Group, if I don't LAUGH, I'll have a fucking BREAKDOWN.

THESE PEOPLE SUCK.

They REALLY, REALLY, REALLY suck.

So yes, I drink a toast to culture.

:toast:

...and I PISS on the House of Bush.

:grr:
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:31 PM
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25. bravo! n/t
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:32 PM
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28. The fact that the "terrorists" came from Saudi Arabia
Might have something to to with the WTFs. Where are the pictures of the suitcases of cash?
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:45 PM
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34. LOL, right, what he said, LOL! n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:22 PM
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19. It's a Middle Eastern custom
http://wrc.lingnet.org/mec.htm

Touching. Long handshakes, grasped elbows, even walking hand in hand by two males is common place in the Arab world. A considerable number of Arabs touch more between the same sex, to show liking--not sex. They hold hands, hug each other, kiss if close friends. As Arab society condones the outward display of affection between male friends, one may see Arab men, even officials and military officers, holding hands as they walk together or otherwise converse with one another. If an individual Arab does not touch you, he does not like you--or he may be trying to restrain himself because you are not used to being touched. A full body embrace, accompanied with hugging, should not be initiated until you are sure that the Arab is a close friend. If the Arab initiates it, participate and consider yourself honored and/or accepted. Contact between the opposite sex in public is considered close to obscene.

Distance in talking with one another (body space) may be much closer with Middle East peoples than with Westerners.

Eye contact during discussions--often long and direct--is important. Staring is not necessarily rude (except gazing at women).
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:29 PM
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24. Really? And selling out American interests for Saudi oil is a fine old
tradition too, right? Don't miss the point. The point is, this is where Chimpo's loyalties really lie, with his Saudi business partners, not his fellow Americans. They are in bed figuratively if not literally, and it's very funny to see him kissing ass so hard, especially after all the vitriol he has spewed at gays. Now, anyone who doesn't see humor and synchroncity here, is just refusing to see it.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:34 PM
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30. That was some of the same things the other 40 people who posted those
pics today said. So please excuse me.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:43 PM
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32. I know the reaction to the photos seems childish, but...
...it's about BUSH, not about customs. Not about foreign dignitaries. Not about homophobia. It's about the rivers of blood flowing in the moat surrounding CASTLE BUSH.

It's also about THIS:

August 02, 2004
Plane Carried 13 Bin Ladens

Manifest of Sept. 19, 2001, Flight From U.S. Is Released

http://americaforsale.org/mt/archives/cat_911.php

At least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, were allowed to leave the United States on a chartered flight eight days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to a passenger manifest released yesterday.

One passenger, Omar Awad bin Laden, a nephew of the al Qaeda leader, had been investigated by the FBI because he had lived with Abdullah bin Laden, a leader of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, which the FBI suspected of being a terrorist organization.

The passenger list was made public by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), who obtained the manifest from officials at Boston's Logan International Airport. Lautenberg's office was given the document in recent weeks and released it before today's issuance of the final report of the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks.

Although much was already known about the "bin Laden flight," Lautenberg provided additional details, including the information that the plane, a 727 owned by DB Air and operated by Ryan International, began its flight in Los Angeles and made stops in Orlando, Dulles International Airport and Boston before continuing to Gander, Newfoundland; Paris; Geneva; and Jiddah, Saudi Arabia. The aircraft, tail number N521DB, has been chartered frequently by the White House for the press corps traveling with President Bush.

A staff report by the Sept. 11 commission this spring said the flight was one of six chartered flights carrying 142 people, mostly Saudi nationals, from the United States between Sept. 14 and 24 after airspace was reopened. The U.S. government had allowed, before commercial airspace was reopened, at least one domestic flight for Saudis who had feared for their safety, Lautenberg's staff said.

The commission reported that there were 23 passengers and three private security guards on the bin Laden flight. However, the manifest lists 25 passengers, plus the three guards employed by CDT Training Inc. of Elmwood Park, N.J. After a request for permission to allow the bin Ladens to leave reached Richard A. Clarke at the National Security Council, the flight departed Logan Airport in Boston at 11 p.m. on Sept. 19, 2001.

Dale Watson, former FBI counterterrorism chief, said yesterday that FBI agents "scrubbed the people who were leaving, and I was informed none of them were anybody we needed to detain or not allow to leave."

Lautenberg, in a statement, said that Bush "needs to explain to the American people why his administration let this plane leave." White House spokesman Sean McCormack said the contentions that the flight should not have been allowed to leave have been "debunked by the facts."

Ron Ryan of Ryan International said yesterday that he is "quite confident" that the Saudi Embassy arranged the flight through a Ryan partner called Sport-Hawk. He said the bin Ladens "were quite concerned for their safety," which alarmed the crew. "The Saudi Embassy offered to pay more money if our crew had a concern," he said.

But he said all were reassured because "the FBI and Secret Service were heavily involved. They were in abundance every place we were."

The commission staff reported that each of the Saudi flights "was investigated by the FBI and dealt with in a professional manner prior to its departure." The staff said that 22 people on the bin Laden flight were interviewed by the FBI and that the FBI checked databases for information on the passengers. The commission said none of the passengers was on the terrorist watch list.

The flight manifest lists 13 people with the bin Laden surname and others with Brazilian, British, Indonesian and Yemeni passports. Passenger Omar Awad bin Laden had lived with Abdullah bin Laden, a nephew of Osama bin Laden who was involved in forming the U.S. branch of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth in Alexandria. Federal agents raided the office this spring in connection with a terrorism-related investigation. The FBI has described the group as a "suspected terrorist organization."

Among the other passengers was Shafig bin Laden, a half brother of Osama bin Laden who was reportedly attending the annual investor conference of the Carlyle Group, a politically connected investment company in Washington, on Sept. 11, 2001. Also on board was Akberali Moawalla, an official with the investment company run by Yeslam bin Laden, another of Osama bin Laden's half brothers. Records show that a passenger, Kholoud Kurdi, lived in Northern Virginia with a bin Laden relative.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:44 PM
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33. fine. you are excused. n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:24 PM
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20. Holding hands and talking face to face is a cultural thing in other
countries of the world. Making jokes not knowing this about the custom means you should get with it and ask, not condemn. Whether or not you don't like Bush or the Prince, you are condemning the people of the country and that is what freepers are known for.

My regrets for preaching...I think we should honor other people in the world (starting with not killing them).
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:32 PM
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27. nobody is making a joke. shrub has treasonously sold our interests
to his saudi princes for his own enrichment, and that is no joke.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:28 PM
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23. Actually, it is the first example I have seen of bush* actually showing
concern for and understanding of another culture. The prince is what, 80 something? It is probably the custom of close family to hold the hand of someone that age in Arabia. Aged people are given more consideration in many cultures than in ours. And since the Sauds and the Bushes are all family, shrub treating him like an honored elder is probably a well practiced habit.

See, cultural understanding and deference IS something he can do, if there is anything in it for him. The Sauds have more $$ therefore he will extend courtesy to them. Us and "old Europe" he doesn't give a rats ass about.

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:33 PM
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29. The manual armature for Bush's puppet strings are in his left hand
:freak:
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:37 PM
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31. I don't get the hand-holding thing.
What's etiquette in a situation like this? I would've assumed that the guest would assume the customs of the host, not vice-versa.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:12 PM
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35. I agree .
Bush's keepers should know better, Bush's former pig farm is in Texas and this just looks funny.

We are not the only ones making fun of Bush. I stopped at my local ice house and picked up two hamburgers, and the TV was on CNN
and when the video was shown the reaction was just the same as ours.

One guy said "I guess I voted for our first gay president".

Everybody was laughing and making up some rather rude jokes, and this Icehouse has a wide mix of people who stop there after work.

Bush brought this on himself, and don't forget Victor Ashe, a former boyfiend now the Ambassador to Poland.



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