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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:47 PM
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Just fired off this email to the Family Research Council
I had received the following today from the FRC:

By any measure, our Justice Sunday simulcast to millions of Americans has been a great success. My staff has surveyed various Senate offices today and found that Senators have been getting thousands of calls as a result of our Justice Sunday simulcast.

Democrats in the Senate did not expect this type of response from the public and as a result, some are looking for a compromise. They are not happy that their two- year concerted effort to sanitize the federal judiciary of people of faith and conservative values has finally been exposed.

Despite the intense public outcry to end these unprecedented filibusters, we've learned that many of the Democrats strongest allies are continuing to pressure the Democratic Senate leadership to continue such filibusters because they know it is the only way to defeat the expected nomination of a conservative candidate to the United States Supreme Court this summer.

People for the American Way, has just launched another highly-charged, misleading TV campaign in support of the filibuster of judges. MoveOn.org is bring its supporters to Capitol Hill next week and former Vice President Al Gore will soon give a "major public address" to try to pressure Senators to continue efforts against good judicial nominees. We must keep up the pressure on the floor of the United State Senate.

Nominees, who live according to their religious faith and those that hold to a conservative judicial philosophy, have a right to an up or down vote.

To ensure that they have that right, I need you to send an email right now to your Senators and ask them to end the filibuster of judicial nominees who are people of faith and conservative values. And I need you to forward this alert to your family and friends.


They disgust me to no end and the fact that they tainted my beautiful city with their hatred and hypocrisy sickens me even more. I felt compelled to send the following to them:

To whom it may concern,

I am curious as to why preventing filibusters are so important right now. I mean, a mere 7 years ago your organization was in support of them:

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/010459.html

In 1998, then-Senior FRC Writer and Analyst Steven Schwalm, appeared on NPR’s Talk of the Nation and had this to say about the filibuster against James Hormel, President’s Clinton’s ambassadorial nominee:

quote:
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...the Senate is a -- is not a majoritarian institution like the House of Representatives is. It is a deliberative body and it's got a number of checks and balances built into our government. This is one of those checks, in which a majority cannot just sheerly force its will, even if they have a majority of votes in some cases, that's why there are things like filibusters and other things that give minorities in the Senate some power to slow things up, to hold things up, and let things be aired properly.

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Also,

Analysis: Frist flip-flopped on filibusters (MSNBC)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7518425
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In 1999 and 2000, before he became majority leader, Frist was one of the Republican senators blocking President Clinton’s nominee to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Richard Paez.

Frist and others repeatedly prevented a vote on the Paez nomination. In 1999, Frist and 52 other Republicans voted against a motion to proceed to a vote on Paez.
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And this:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/sen_isakson_rga.php#comments
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Senator Isakson on the floor of the United States Senate extolling the virtues of the filibuster to protect the rights of the minority from being overrun by the majority.

"Don't you fear that the Shi'ites inevitably being in the majority, that you will be overrun? And he says, 'oh no, we have a secret weapon.' Mr. President, this is a Kurdish leader, in the middle of Iraq in the 21st century who said he had a secret weapon. And when asked what it was, he said one word, 'filibuster'" <...>

"It is one of their minority leaders, proudly stating one of the pillars and principles of our government, as the way they would ensure that the majority never overran the minority."
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Would you like to see the video of Sen. Isakson?

http://reid.senate.gov/video/isakson.mov


So, now all of a sudden filibusters are a *bad* thing because they go against *your* political agenda?

Jesus had no use for hypocrites.

You and your organization defile the name of Christ.

Disgustedly yours,




Feel free to send them your own thoughts:

https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?c=CONTACT_FRC&step=2&f=AL05D03&t=e&t=e&fix=1
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:53 PM
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1. Good letter.
I'll send one later.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:00 PM
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2. Seems the methodology is:
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:09 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
When things are going against you, make the lies bigger.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:19 PM
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3. I wrote them (and stole heavily from you - sorry)
I liked your letter and how you referenced some really good stuff in the middle. Hope you don't mind that I copied it. I also put a lot of stuff about Christ in there. They are supposed to be a religious organization but that site reeks of hatred and anger. Pitiful.


Your organization does NOT represent the teachings of Jesus Christ. You scream and shout and practically force your opinions down our throats. Jesus did not do this. His teachings were to take care of the poor - I see nothing on this site about caring for the poor. He preached to love your neighbor - I see nothing on this site that advocates that (unless you try to pretend that your "Marriage: One Man, One Woman" qualifies -which it doesn't.)

You are like the hypocrites who stand on the corners of the streets and yell your prayers for all to hear. Yes, Jesus says that you will have your reward but admonishes us to NOT be like those people.

It also amazes me that your organization is now flipflopping on fillibusters. It seems that only 7 years ago that you were in support of them:

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/010459.html

In 1998, then-Senior FRC Writer and Analyst Steven Schwalm, appeared on NPR’s Talk of the Nation and had this to say about the filibuster against James Hormel, President’s Clinton’s ambassadorial nominee:

quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
...the Senate is a -- is not a majoritarian institution like the House of Representatives is. It is a deliberative body and it's got a number of checks and balances built into our government. This is one of those checks, in which a majority cannot just sheerly force its will, even if they have a majority of votes in some cases, that's why there are things like filibusters and other things that give minorities in the Senate some power to slow things up, to hold things up, and let things be aired properly.

Also,

Analysis: Frist flip-flopped on filibusters (MSNBC)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7518425
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In 1999 and 2000, before he became majority leader, Frist was one of the Republican senators blocking President Clinton’s nominee to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Richard Paez.

Frist and others repeatedly prevented a vote on the Paez nomination. In 1999, Frist and 52 other Republicans voted against a motion to proceed to a vote on Paez.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/sen_isakson_rg...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Senator Isakson on the floor of the United States Senate extolling the virtues of the filibuster to protect the rights of the minority from being overrun by the majority.

"Don't you fear that the Shi'ites inevitably being in the majority, that you will be overrun? And he says, 'oh no, we have a secret weapon.' Mr. President, this is a Kurdish leader, in the middle of Iraq in the 21st century who said he had a secret weapon. And when asked what it was, he said one word, 'filibuster'" <...>

"It is one of their minority leaders, proudly stating one of the pillars and principles of our government, as the way they would ensure that the majority never overran the minority."
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Would you like to see the video of Sen. Isakson?

http://reid.senate.gov/video/isakson.mov

May you truly accept Jesus Christ in your heart and release this hatred and anger. As long as you have this hatred and anger in your heart, you are denying your Savior's teachings, message and ultimate sacrifice on the cross for your sins.

I will pray for you to embrace Jesus's loving and tolerant teachings.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Copy, plagiarize, whatever. Have at it!
:)
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:20 PM
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4. Flip-flop!
James Dobson has his Bible-beating bumpkins duped beyond belief. Wonder what they'd think if theoy found out that Rev. Beat your Kids is a flip-flopper!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:22 PM
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5. They talked about this hypocracy on Hannity last night
Some priest was tearing Hannity and some FReeper to pieces over GOP hypocracy, completely taking them to task and calling them on their bullshit in a similar manner.

It was good to watch
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:24 PM
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6. wow, what a waste of time
not only is it a letter from a liberal, but it's email to boot!

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:29 PM
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8. But oh so satisfying! nt
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:36 PM
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9. too true. and at least we all got to read it
so it's not a total waste :)
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:43 PM
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10. I doubt that they will read it but if they do, I wanted to be respectful
I wanted to point out their hypocrisy but in a Biblical way. Hopefully they won't send me back a nastygram.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:45 PM
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11. Oh, I'm hoping I *do* get one!
:)
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:49 PM
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12. Well, here's hoping! I hope that you get one and post it if you do
It should make for some pretty good reading, lol.
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