Female DUers, does this look as bad to you as it does to me?

[stevedeshazer]

This photograph says SO much.

on edit: stolen from Stephanie's thread

[Horse with no Name]

1. Yep

The way Condi is walking with her head down like a second class citizen?

[WildClarySage]

2. I thought she looked sad because dim son's holding hands with

his new love interest.

[rzemanfl]

3. She should walk with her head down because she is a lying

bitch who is unworthy of trust, but not because of those Arabs.

[Horse with no Name]

22. LOL

so true...but I was simply looking at the male--female aspects of the pictures and obliterating the fact that these are all lying, theiving, murderers.

[rzemanfl]

38. It appears though, that in a group of lying, thieving murderers

females bring up the rear. Or maybe its just seniority? I can't help thinking there was a conversation that went "Abdul, you be sure to push the black infidel woman off of the sidewalk!"

[calico1]

8. Condi is a disgrace to us all. n/t

[Cleita]

4. On another level, it's really funny.

Poor Condi, she made her bed and now she has to lie in it.

Compromising your principles and self-esteem always comes home to roost, doesn't it?

I wonder if she has to belly dance at the dinner party?

[Horse with no Name]

23. Actually have you ever seen one of the Asian buffets

where the female lies in the middle of the table and the men eat off of her?
Only with this crew it would more resemble a bunch of buzzards eating roadkill.

[doublethink]

5. Hey not female here but .....

is there a film of this? Did she walk the the whole way with her head down? Is that an Arab custom for women to walk with their head down when among men? Interesting. I'd like to see a film of this .... maybe I'm reading more into it, but maybe the US needs more oil from Saudi Arabia when Bush invades Iran, thus shutting down the supply from Venezuela ...... okay getting ahead of myself. Peace. :)

[Worst Username Ever]

6. What about this one

[B Calm]

9. OMG, they are FRENCH KISSING!

[maddiejoan]

16. You mean FREEDOM KIssing --

you commie pinko! :hide:

[femme.democratique]

20. LOL Freedom Kissing! The new trend sweeping the nation!

[Coexist]

37. OH my gosh that was the funniest post all day!

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Huh

Are they kissing on the lips or going for the cheeks? I heard Sam Seder talking about this on Majority report earlier in the program and he said there was video of them kissing on the cheeks like the French do.

[WhiteTara]

12. please tell me this is doctored!

I am gagging!

[uppityperson]

14. That's photoshopped.

As for the original picture, yes, since Condi is the only female present, it looks bad. Even with the Misogynistic Saudi Arabians.

[stevedeshazer]

17. That's not the point

And that's an altered photo.

The point is how a powerful woman was treated among powerful men.

[uppityperson]

19. I don't like Condi but don't think she should have to stand in the mud

And the fact that she's the only female present looks bad to me too.
Edited to add-thank you for getting the fact that Condi looks bad, not another homophobic posting. Thank you.

[stevedeshazer]

32. Exactly

She has to stand, head bowed, while all the males (who are completely ignoring her presence) walk on the sidewalk.

She looks like she is avoiding dog poop.

She is OBVIOUSLY expected to fall in line at the REAR. And she knows it. She's deferring to THEM.

[Wizard777]

39. She's waiting for the men to pass.

I think protocal calls for her to walk 10 paces behind them.

[Wizard777]

21. Prince Abdullah says,

This is what Bush would look like with a Lil Hitler mustache.

Is it sexual commentary or political commentary?

[Arugula Latte]

33. This picture should be distributed to fundies/conservatives/Repubs

far and wide.

Talk about an unholy alliance.

Is that tongue I see? :evilgrin:

[Generic Other]

55. When did Bush grow the Hitler moustache?

It looks so natural on him...

[Rick Myers]

7. Abdullah is PREGGERS!!!

[Tangledog]

11. The guy at the right

...farthest away from B*, has a similar look on his mug. My first thought was that the discussion must have been boring and stupid (not an inconceivable concept). My second was that somebody in that collection was blowing some woesome farts in their direction.

[Runcible Spoon]

13. aww look they're in love

I heard Jeffy Gannon/Guckert fluffs for them. I also hear that condoms will break if you use OPEC crude oil-based lubricant.

[RC]

25. Oh, that was good!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[uppityperson]

15. I'm getting really tired of DU homophobia.

Almost as tired as Mr.bush's hypocritcal lying smug git face.

[stevedeshazer]

24. Thank you

I agree.

My intent was to show how this woman was treated among men.

Then along came the purveyors of queer jokes.

I'm straight, and I find all the "Bush Gay Man Kissing" hysteria very disconcerting. Big fucking deal.

[Karenina]

26. This is NOT about "homophobia."

It IS about body language and displays of POWER. I won't even talk about it anymore because SO FEW get it.

90% of communicaton is NON-VERBAL. THAT is the biggest failing of cyberspace... :shrug: What to do???

[stevedeshazer]

29. I have to ask

Have you not seen the insulting responses here to gay men?

That said, the reason I posted the picture was ALL ABOUT the body language and power.

As for it being "the biggest failing of cyberspace", I can think of a few bigger ones.

Somehow, I think you agree with me?

[Karenina]

50. Insulting responses to gay men, indeed...

THIS DISPLAY has ZILCH to do with our garden variety citizens of same-sex preference. It's a whole nuther Spielraum and folks simply DO NOT get it. "Gannon" has NOTHING TO DO with our garden variety citizens of same-sex preference who go about their daily lives, raising and teaching and welding and trucking and translating and fishing and doctoring and comforting and jes' doing what needs to be done in the moment to keep on keepin' on.

Do tell, I'll even stay up awhile... What do you feel are the even bigger failings? TALK TO ME!!!

[uppityperson]

31. Exactly, I agree with you here.

It is not abut homophobia. What is about homophobia is all the homophobic sneers and crap that has been on DU all day since this set of pictures came out. I am glad that there are other people here who see this as it is. Thank you.

[Runcible Spoon]

52. for my part, my comment was not homophobic

I would have made the same joke had it been * and a woman. What irks me more is that * is all about cultural relativism and embracing of certain behaviors when it suits HIM.

[Karenina]

54. What you are missing

is the relationship these families have had for DECADES. They have LONG SINCE developed their own "language." Translating it is the province of the observant. ;-)

[femme.democratique]

18. I'm sorry, but thats just so....so.....

GAY. I just wish people like Geo. PoundMeInTheAss Bu$hitler would "come clean" no pun intended. I don't care if its customary for them to swap spit or whatever...and the way they treat women! Hello! They're so intimate with men but they treat the women like servants.

[stevedeshazer]

36. Jeez, do you have a problem with gay people?

Nevermind. :grr:

[femme.democratique]

40. How do you know I'm not gay? So presumptuous!

Most of the best friends I have ever had are gay, I support gay rights, gay marriage, gay everything. Sorry if I don't fit your PC knee-jerk version of what is acceptable to think.

Yeah, right, I have a problem with gay people. Not. :sarcasm:

[stevedeshazer]

41. Are you?

[femme.democratique]

44. No, I'm not, and??? So you wouldn't mind if I were?

Watch out your knee is jerking again. I am sorry if you are gay and I offend you with my words. However, what I said is not derogatory towards gay people - its derogatory towards George Bush, such that he is a closet homosexual hypocrite.

[KoKo]

27. No...it seems like Men and Minorities have one a postion in the Bush

Administration. What else could anyone ask for? "Sarcasm Alert"

[seabeyond]

28. i have been teasing him all day, and i dont believe in teasing, and

yes i dont it is middle east custom and totally respect ect.........still, sure is fun teasing

[mcscajun]

30. What it looks like is she's waiting for all the men to go by...

...so she can bring up the rear.

Wish there was video to make this clearer.

[benddem]

34. kissing the cheek of another man on both sides

is an Arab custom...but bushie looks like he's planting one on Abdullah's lips. That isn't the custom. The holding hands although it is perfectly fine in Arab and Eastern countries...but Bush doing this with him is STUPID. When in Rome. Condi walking 5 paces behind with her head bowed is a disgrace. I worked in the Kingdom and never once did I follow a man like that. I took care of Abdullah's daughter and the man is a criminal.

[stevedeshazer]

42. The kissing pic is PHOTOSHOPPED

[doublethink]

46. Please see post #5 above....

this scenario intrigued me today because of what I said there. You being someone with knowledge of the Arab customs here, I have to ask you, why would this holding hands in Rome be STUPID? I have never thought Bush would cower down to anyone, but this to me seems what he is doing. Am I wrong? And is Condi playing along? The kissing on the lips pic is obviously photoshoped, not real, I'm a photographer and see that. But the other image is real, kinda surreal. Thank's for the input and any response ... Peace :)

[Carni]

49. I agree -- and does everything here have to be taken so "literally" here?

Abdullah is an odious individual and his little buddy George and he are well suited for one another even if they aren't actually a *couple*

The worst insult to the Wahhabis and the right winged whacko Christians such as bush would be to be called gay and excuse the F out of me if I revel in every delicious minute of making fun of these two clowns tip toeing through the Texas bluebonnets while holding hands.

I don't care what their deal is... I am sick of taking it up the wazoo at the gas pump because of these two assholes and the myriad like them.

[DemonFighterLives]

35. Appreciate the perspectives here

He's still a dork. Poor Condi is saddened.
:dunce:

[BringEmOn]

43. I thought this was referring to Junior's belt not matching his shoes.

[Bouncy Ball]

45. The hand holding doesn't bother me as much

as him KISSING THE ASS OF THE MAN WHOSE COUNTRY produced the TERRORISTS that killed 3000 AMERICANS ON 9/11.

Now THAT pisses me off. Kissy face with Saudi Arabia, ain't that the SHIT?

Also, what's up with those gas prices, Chimpy McCokespoon?

[Carni]

51. AMEN!

I am putting everything I make at my part time job into my gas tank (and no I don't drive an SUV) while these two assholes parade around enjoying the sights and smells of spring holding hands.

I am supposed to give a rat's ass about Wahhabi customs and bush's penchant to kiss ass?

I think not-

[BringEmOn]

47. Guilt

Condi probably feels she should have her head covered, since Junior is sucking face and holding hands

[DemonFighterLives]

48. Burkas anyone?

:crazy:

[peacetalksforall]

53. She is saying...when I get to be President...others will stand, head

down, while I pass by with the Prince.

[BringEmOn]

56. Condi: Don't step in the "Dubya"