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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:29 PM
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my child is high-risk (asperger's autism). my take on the handcuffed kid
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 09:30 PM by Nigel_Tufnel
i am very distressed at the lack of compassion in some of the posts regarding this incident. my 7 year old was recently diagnosed with asperger's syndrome, a type of autism. his behavior is somewhat similar to this little girl's.

DU was instrumental in my son's diagnosis. i read an article about asperger's that some kind soul posted here (thank you -- bless you forever - you have done more good than you can know) and realized that was the root of the troubles that we've had dealing with my son over the years. my kid's doctor didn't notice. one whole year in kindergarten, nobody noticed there either. if it wasn't for DU, i would never have heard of asperger's, and told the school about it.

i cannot critize this child's mom. i know what it's like to dread the phone ringing with the school on the other end. what's he done now? i'm sure i've been considered a bad parent, even though i've been home with my kid, and worked hard to try and teach him to be a good person.

i can't criticize the teacher either. i know that teachers are overworked and underpaid, and that sometimes help is not available easily. i think it is important for them to be aware of this type of difference, because these kids are much easier to deal with if you have some knowledge of their difference in brain functioning.

as a society, we have to learn about dealing with these behavioral difficulties in a constructive way. a person with this type of autism is usually very smart, yet doesn't perceive the world in the same way as most. they are easily frustrated, unable to understand and use society's normal outlets for frustrations, and lose control.

they have to be instructed in great detail about what is happening to them, how to take other people's feelings into consideration, and what to do instead of coming apart at the seams. since they are smart, it usually doesn't take much time before they start to understand what is expected of them, and do much better.

one source (i can't find it again to reference it, i'm sorry) said that 1 of 200 children today have some sort of neurological difficulty. if this is true, teachers and parents need to learn to recognize the symptoms as early as possible. intervention at very early ages can help these children to integrate into society with a great deal of success and a minimum of effort.

after some doctor's visits, some school meetings, some books read, some heart to heart talks with all involved, i can say that in the past two months, we have made more progress in helping my son behave better than in the previous seven years. maybe this girl's mom is not highly educated. maybe she doesn't have the knowledge or resources to try and figure out what her daughter's problem is. sometimes it's not that hard to deal with a problem, IF you know what the problem is.

i'm sorry the post is so long -- i am grateful for what i have learned, and that i have been able to help my child, without yelling, or spanking. i just wanted to share...
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:33 PM
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1. I am glad you were able to help your son
And welcome to DU :)
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:39 PM
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3. thanks for the nice welcome...
i feel very lucky that i have come by this knowledge here. talk about improving someone's life!

i will admit that i still have to raise my voice with him sometimes. there will be issues that need to be dealt with for a long time. but what a difference, to know the height of the hill you're trying to scale...
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:35 PM
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2. I have a friend with Asperger's
He's a very highly-placed scientist with an internationally renowned institution. Brilliant in his field.

I'm the one who figured out he was Asperger's. His whole personal life has been one misery after another. People got mad at him, did mean things to him, and he never understood.

I don't think he understands even now, after how it was explained to him. He absolutely does not relate to emotional situations in any empathic way. But, he has learned what are acceptable social responses, and, in fact, he's a sought-after public speaker.

Yet, if I want to put him into a state of extreme agitation, all I have to do is put my arms around him and ask him if he wants to dance. The up close and personal stuff scares him. It's that simple - being close to another person terrifies him.

I think that might have been what was going on with that little girl in Florida, but, honestly, after having raised kids of my own (and seeing the mother in an interview and hearing some of her history - eviction, etc.), I'm more inclined to think that she's being raised by an unstable woman in an unstable home and is simply acting out.

Whatever it is, I hope the kid get help. I kind of doubt it, though.

You do know, I'm sure, that there are a lot of support groups now for families with Asperger's kids?

Good luck. And good luck to your daughter.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:51 PM
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6. thanks for the input!
how kind of you, to try to point this out to your friend. it must be a real misery to be unable to relate easily on an emotional level, something most of us take for granted! hopefully he'll do more reading and find some self-awareness.

i know this syndrome was fairly recently discovered. hopefully, intervention when the child is young will help alleviate a lot of the damage that your friend has endured. it's never too early to have self- knowledge, is it?

i am unable to view the video of the incident, as my computer is an antique. i just hope that the mother and her daughter can find some way to get their lives in control. if the mom is out of control, how can there be any hope for that poor little child?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:56 PM
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7. There's a lot going on
A friend of mine - a psychiatric social worker in Tennessee - works exclusively with Asperger's kids. She says that so much of it is simply training the kid to respond properly.

I don't know that an Asperger's kid ever actually experiences emotions like others do, but I do know that they're desperately isolated and confused and total pains in the asses to be around so much of the time, but, the moments when those connections are made are so hard-won as to be remarkable.

Welcome, Nigel, and that was a great band you had ................. :hi:
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:14 PM
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12. i think spinal tap was the greatest band that never was...
i play their album for my nephews, and they think it was a real band! have to teach these young aprouts about real music!

i think there are degrees of understanding. the ones with the most problem are those who don't want to be involved with other people very much. i am lucky, because my son wants to have friends more than anything! he is very motivated, and listens carefully to what i say. and the joy when the day goes well! i feel like i won the lottery!

please thank your friend for me. what a difference she is making in the world! there aren't many jobs where you can improve the world to such a degree...

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:26 PM
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18. Sorry, I thought you had a daughter
Whoops. My error. Sorry.

Yes, there are all sorts of degrees within the syndrome. If your boy has that drive, he'll have some adventures. His peers will have to learn how to deal with him, and that will expand their lives in ways that will enrich them forever. He will, sadly, experience failures in transactions that so many of us take for granted.

I sometimes think these kids/adults are sent to us as mystifying gifts that will give us far more than we could ever give them. My friend, the scientist, has driven me crazy in the years that we've known each other, I can't count on him for a thing, because his word is only good at the moment he gives it, and he'll lie when he thinks he's done something "wrong," but I've found out things about myself that I've never learned even with raising my children.

But, when he's really got me mad at him, I remember one evening when we were sitting in our back yard, and this strangled, tortured voice came out of him, saying "I just wish someone would touch me."

This, I might add, is a 53-year-old man who has had none of the advantages your son has. I wonder how many people passed through this world in misery before the Asperger's diagnosis was defined......

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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:12 PM
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26. such a sad story about your friend
he sounds like he has so much to give, and just doesn't know how to give it! i am convinced we all have our gifts, it's just figuring out what they are and the best way to use them that's not easy!

you sound like a good friend. your acceptance of him and patience with his misunderstandings has probably made a real difference in his world! i wish he could find the love that he's capable of...

i hate to think about all of the people who have suffered with this over the years. actually, i can see a lot of it in my husband. i think i might have a touch of it, too. guess my son got a "double whammy."
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:43 PM
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4. What an important post!
I'm really glad you shared this. Among the many good points you raise is that we do not know why that little girl's mother didn't leave work to go to the school. There are many jobs that do not allow parents the option of simply leaving. Perhaps the mother felt she would lose her job. Too many people are too quick to judge the mother harshly.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:59 PM
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8. it's not possible to know all of the details...
i won't pass judgment on anyone in this. i know that teachers are overworked and even threatened sometimes. it's a very hard job and underappreciated! i just think that calling the police and handcuffing the child was way out of line.

my dealings with my son indicate that a calming period of isolation and some detailed explanations are successful. yelling and hitting just make things worse. it's a lot of work, but probably less than an incident like this!

i just hope that the mom and her daughter can get their lives in some kind of a balance. there but for the grace of god go i...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:50 PM
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5. Thank you Nigel, for sharing.
Too many are quick to criticize in this society (and on the DU), based on only superficial observations. This occurs with many issues as you saw with this little girl. It occurs also when the subject is weight related issues.

Thank heaven for those that look beyond such superficial things and try to see if there are deeper meanings/causes for such behavior and/or physical appearances.

I'm so glad you could find help for your son, many never do (as you state) from the lack of health care availability in this country. Some days the blessings are not what we expect, but are blessings all the same.

Good luck on your journey through the maze of asperger's syndrome. I'm sure you have much joy from your son as well as the frustrations you faced before you knew of his condition. Kids can be sooo frustrating without problems as your son faces, but are the greatest joy on Earth (next to grandkids!)!!

Knowledge IS power and often hope.
Take care. And welcome to posting!
V
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:22 PM
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14. i am a very lucky person
to have such a great son! it was great to be able to understand his thinking somewhat. now that we understand the problem, it has brought us much closer. he has a great potential for good, and i look forward to helping him on the path to his greatest gifts! that's all you can want for your kid, i guess.

i'm a newbie to posting, but i am a long term lurker. obviously, i owe a lot to DU. i wish i knew who the poster was who listed the original article. i don't have the search function -- finances are kind of low. i'm lucky to have the internet!

thanks for the nice welcome and the kind words...
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:24 PM
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30. I wish I had the money...
I would certainly make sure you had a star. Perhaps there's a DUer around that can help make that possible for you. Your post touched me deeply. I hope that everything will work out for you and your son. Welcome to DU!
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:10 AM
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37. thank you for your kind words...
it occurred to me that maybe i could contact the moderator, and they would let me know where the post is. maybe i'll try that. i bet the person who posted that article would be tickled to know that they helped a kid so much...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:00 PM
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9. If only this 5 year old had you as a Mom
was being evicted from her apartment last month..not cooperative with the school... and then leaves the state and her attorney who am certain will never be paid.

this little girl will never get the help she needs.
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ChicagoBlue Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:01 PM
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10. Some good news for you
I have Aspergers too -- I'm 30 years old and realized it when I was about 20. I'm a pretty classic case of it. I obsessively delve into subjects (boxing, baseball, American Presidents, Kings and Queens of England, the Constitution, Particle Physics, etc.) and have a a bizarrely powerful memory for even the most minute details of these subjects. My typical work week is well over 100 hours, and I have very little need to sleep. Yet I have almost no ability to recognize what other people are feeling and, beyond a logical level, virtually no capacity to empathize with other people. It leaves you pretty isolated and people do tend to treat you strangely. For some reason in our society, we admire physical greatness: the athlete who works hard to hit the most home runs, run the fastest, lift the heaviest weight. Yet people are convinced a few "lucky bastards" are just born smart and never have to put effort into learning anything (not so -- that knowledge has searched out).

Once I recognized what it was, I never bothered to have it treated. Simply knowing it is there helps prevent me from doing those things that make others too uneasy. I know it leaves me lonely, yet at the same time I don't care about it. At the same time, it leaves me very objective (people come to me for straight talk all the time -- most bizarrely about their relationships, which I would really know very little about!). It allows me to work very hard on things without discomfort or fatigue, and I have carved out a life with which I am quite happy. Granted, most others wouldn't tolerate it -- but that hardly matters.

The bottom line is, your son can be quite happy in his life. He may be a bit different, he may have what others consider to be a strange lifestyle, but here in America that is perfectly fine.

Or at least it will be so long as we get these Republicans under control.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:45 PM
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20. i know that my son is very smart
and from your hobbies, you are too! it's true that all knowledge is hard to acquire. i could forsee a possibility of making others jealous, and never knowing it because of your inability to judge their feelings!

it's probably easier to limit your friendships in a situation like that. however, you seem to be generous and concerned, and i hope you will be able to share that with many people!

i think of my son as more along the lines of "super-normal." he's a normal kid, PLUS. he seems to be pretty demonstrative emotionally, so i'm hoping that early intervention will enable him to have closer relationships. i just want him to have a healthy self-awareness (as you seem to have) and the ability to know what will make him happy!

thanks so much for your input...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:07 PM
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11. It must have been a huge weight lifted from your shoulders
to finally have your son diagnosed and treated. :hug: I'm so happy for you and your son. I think the little girl was mistreated. She is only 5 years old and needs help, not handcuffs.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:26 PM
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17. With all due respect, the cops don't know anything
about disbilites.
They have been known to shoot and kill deaf people who were using sign language to explain themselves.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:37 PM
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19. With all due respect, the little girl is 5 years old.
A BABY! Handcuffs were uncalled for.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:56 PM
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22. When the only tool you have is a hammer
you treat everything as if it were a nail.

The kid is lucky she did not get tasered.
REPEATEDLY.
Until she was absolutely still.

Mind you, I am NOT in favor of any of this.
Nor was I in favor of 41 bullets being fired at Amadou Diallo for taking his key out to unlock his front door.
I am saying that there are a lot of Barney Fifes out there and one of these days the whole darn town is going to be arrested and thrown into jail.
http://www.newworldpeace.com/domestic5.html
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:54 PM
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21. you can say that again!
i was smiling when i shook the neurologist's hand. i know my son has a fine mind and a capacity for good. i was literally not able to communicate with him sometimes. now i can, and what a great gift it is!

i feel for the little girl, and all of the other children who are suffering right now because we allow our government to spend money bombing other little children.

i don't know how we have allowed this to happen...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:20 PM
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13. Welcome
My son has autism (we think asperger's syndrome), but he was diagnosed a while back. He is in college now, so hang in there and get as many resources and help you can from the community. You all will do just fine.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:59 PM
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23. thanks so much...
i appreciate all of the supportive words, and the knowledge that help is available. we are lucky that my son is very smart, and very motivated. i am sure that he will accomplish what he sets out to do. he will have all the support i can give him, that's for sure.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:23 PM
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15. The trouble with people who are autistic
is that, for the most part, they look perfectly normal.

How is that a problem?
I know a few people who work with children and adults with developmental disabilities. When they take a group on an outing it is interesting to hear of the responses they get.

The people with Downs are readily identified and the average person is usually kind to the individual and also to the person accompanying them.

People in wheelchairs are routinely ignored and only the person accompanying them is spoken to. Rather like how someone with a cute puppy is treated. Good doggy. Can I pet him?

People with helmets or braces are feared and avoided.

The behavior of people with autism is frowned upon.
One staff person once remarked how glad she was that she was Black because when she went out everyone realized that the (white) autistic person with her was probably not a direct relative and so they were very patient with her and usually complimented her on her kindness and good heart for working with someone who behaved so badly.
A fellow white employee was often rebuked harshly for allowing "her child" to behave so in public and was sometimes asked to leave. She also frequently had to endure people telling her she was a bad mother.
When the two staff went out together with that individual, nothing changed. One received sympathy and the other, open hostility. Even if no-one there had ever seen any one of them before.
Perceptions. It was all in the eye of the beholder.

I am not making any value judgments.
I am just saying that people get treated differently because of they way they look.
And you knew that already.
And the trouble with autism is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the person except that something is terribly wrong.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:06 PM
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25. that's absolutely true
and probably why i had no idea my son was autistic.

as for judging folks differently because of a difference or some sort of disability, it just indicates to me that the person who is making the judgement is an ignorant boor who does not deserve to be in polite company. our society is so obsessed by this myth of perfection the media perpetrates on us that we no longer recognize the normal differences in human beings.

i think it's up to parents to teach their children these things, and will freely admit that they don't seem to be doing it. there is a boy with an obvious disability at my son's bus stop, and the things the other kids say to him and about him make me sick. i try and talk to the kids at the stop (it's amazing how starved they are for adult interaction) and explain about how wrong it is to say such hurtful and mean things about people. i just don't think they get that kind of basic instruction at home, and that's pretty sad.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:23 PM
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28. A lot of the kids at the bus-stop
are simply modelling what is on TV.

It is truly HORRIFYING to know just how LITTLE time children spend talking to their parents.
Many children know NOTHING about their parent's childhood because all they ever do together is watch TV or drive to camp.
None of this "when I was your age.."

As a child, no-one ever spoke to me about people with disbilities other than to tell me not to stare at them.

I only found out about this from reading a children's book called Cathy at the Crossroads by Nancy Weingarten Faber. (Someone should make a movie based on this book.)
Cathy's father marries a lady who turns out to have a retarded child.
I kinda spoiled the story for you, but only because the book is out of print and very hard to come by. Cathy learns about disbilites then and there and I learned right along with her. That book has had a lifelong impact on yours truly.
And I suppose I was just as tactless as the kids at the bus-stop before I read that book.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:51 PM
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35. that sounds like a wonderful book
i am going to try and get ahold of it, for sure! a lot of kids understand complex concepts like compassion much better than they read about the, and see pictures. thank you!

it's amazing how grateful a kid is when you just show an interest in what they are saying. they look for you every day, and run over to see you. makes you feel important, too. could always use a little more of that, right?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:25 PM
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16. You just don't know how much I appreciate your post!
:hug: A different perspective is so needed and I believe you have provided that for the rest of us. Welcome to DU! :hi:

I am so proud of DU, that this little message board was able to help you and your son. Now that you know what you are dealing with, you both will be fine. I know he will because you cared enough to question and you were insightful enough to recognize his symptoms in that article.

God bless you both! :hug:

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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:24 PM
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29. isn't it amazing that a person i probably will never meet helped my son?
they gave us a gift that money couldn't buy, and they might never even know it?

i admit to being distressed about the state of the world, especially this country's government, but how great is it to be able to share news instantly, or touch a hundred people's hearts and never meet a single one?

i am sure that my family will be fine. i hope that we can work together to see that all families are able to have the resources to be fine, too. i can dream, can't it?

thanks for your kind words...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:38 PM
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32. I just find it so incredible
What is most remarkable is your ability to recognize the significance of the article. You are very insightful and a very caring parent.

I will share your dream and pray that all families are afforded the resources to be fine. :toast:

:hug: thank you again for sharing.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:05 PM
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24. My son also has Aspergers/Autisim
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 11:05 PM by walldude
I too know what it's like to dread the phone ringing with the school on the other end. What's he done now. Mine has even been suspended a few times. It's tough, and schools have less and less money to help. We had to pitch a serious bitch to get him any extra help. We have been fortunate that he has had very understanding and helpful teachers. He was diagnosed with Aspergers but in his current evaluation they say he's "high functioning Autistic.
Feel free to PM me if you ever have a question or anything I can help with.... Oh and welcome to DU :Toast:
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:44 PM
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34. it's a bad time to need help
being that these compassionate conservatives prefer spending money on bombs than bread! i expect my son to be called "high functioning" also. it's less work and resources for them.

i am doing a lot of work with him at home, and trying to find playmates (always a challenge for an only child). he seems to be improving quite a bit. his teacher is an absolute GEM and the school has been very helpful to me.

thanks for letting me know about your son. it's always comforting to hear from people who are working with similar problems. i appreciate your offer of help. i don't know how to "pm" though? please let me know how?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:20 PM
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27. My son just turned 14 and was diagnosed with Asperger's
in 1998, when he was in the first grade. He can sometimes be a handful behaviorally, but there are specific things we can do when he gets that way to calm him down, and they usually work. Getting angry or physical with him only makes him angrier and more prone to lashing out. Getting some of his teachers to understand this is another story, although most have been pretty cool. They listen to me when I've told them how to "defuse" him, and comply for the most part, with good results.

But some of them don't listen, and I can easily see a situation happening where he just explodes because they've gotten angry and yelled instead of listening to me and his special-ed teachers as to what needs to be done. It was totally inexcusable for that school to have done what they did, it's ridiculous that several trained educators couldn't think of any better way to handle a FIVE YEAR OLD, NOT A TEENAGER, than to call the cops for God's sake. Unbelievable.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:35 PM
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31. it's in the teacher's best interest to listen to your advice...
you have experience with him, and you know him better than anyone. it's much easier and a lot less work to intervene before it gets explosive!

i can't believe they felt like they couldn't handle that child any other way. i think they let their anger at the child and her mother cloud their judgement. if there is no awareness of this type of problem, it's easy to fall back on the "bad parent / bad home life" excuse.

i used to think i was a lousy parent myself. i'm just happy that i've learned that there is no blame to be assigned in this case (except of course for the pollution we are generating and the wasting of the country's money on bombs instead of bread.)

my son is worst when they are playing games. he has tantrums when he loses a competition. i am still working on ways to get through to him on that.

when i hear about situations like that, i wish i didn't have to send my son to school at all. unfortunately, home-schooling probably wouldn't be in his best interests...

i appreciate your comments. it's always comforting to hear of someone facing down the same problems with good success. i hope your son will continue to improve, and have much love and many successes....
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:39 PM
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33. Thank you for another viewpoint.
I finally had to stop reading anything about that child being handcuffed because of the lack of empathy shown in so many cases.

Like you, I had a child (adopted) who suffered from an "invisible" condition that made him socially very difficult. He had Fetal Alcohol Effect, as a result of his biological parents' drinking habits. He looked perfectly normal, unlike a child who has full blown Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, who will "look" disabled - yet his behavior was typical - inability to concentrate, inability to comprehend passage of time, inability to understand money, little or no impulse control, little or no comprehension of the consequences of his actions, little or no ability to empathize with other people.

During my years of raising this child, I was branded a bad mother. I was called "white trash" because I had to leave my profession to be at home at all times, which meant that we were quite poor, and many people assumed that we were on welfare, which we weren't. I've been called "welfare whore" to my face more than once. I was called "uncooperative" by school authorities when they wanted to corporally punish him and refused to accept the diagnoses of the dozens of specialists I had taken him to. The school authorities wanted him on Ritalin, which made his seizure disorder worse and made him wildly hyperactive and violent. No number of telephone calls from doctors who had seen my son would budge the school authorities from their determination that he be drugged, even when the doctors explained that he could NOT take Ritalin or any similar drug. And nothing could convince them that making a "contract" with a Fetal Alcohol Effect child is pointless, because the child does not comprehend the concept of a contract, and does not understand the consequences of his actions.

AT THE REQUEST OF THE SCHOOL, I homeschooled him for two years. He made great strides. Outstripped my ability to teach math (my ex-husband took over), was beyond grade level in all subjects. Had begun, with careful and consistent teaching and with firmly set limits, to comprehend the consequences of his actions and get his impulsivness under control. He asked to return to school, and after many meetings with the various school authorities and faculty, he returned. They were given all our records, all his schoolwork, all doctor and therapist records for that two year period. I filled them in on the techniques I'd used to cope with his disability. Everything seemed hunky dory. He was in a special education class with only four other kids. He was motivated to return to school, and more than academically ready, by the decree of the school authorities.

Within TWO WEEKS we were back to square one. They wanted him on Ritalin, and no matter who told them that this child COULD NOT TAKE RITALIN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, they continued to demand it. They expected no academic excellence from him, but praised him for anything he did, no matter how poorly done. Eventually he would just scribble on a page and hand it in, to get a big smiley face sticker! And they started making "contracts" with him again, even though several child psychologists and psychiatrists had told them this was an ineffective way of dealing with this particular child.

By then, I was labelled "uncooperative" by the school authorities, because I wouldn't give him Ritalin which would make him sick and I disagreed with his IEP, which was finally presented to me four months after he returned to school. I was reported for "medical neglect" to CPS by the school. CPS determined that this accusation was entirely unfounded, but let me tell you, going through an investigation, even when one is innocent, is a nerve-wracking and terrifying experience. The entire house of cards came crashing down the day his teacher choked him with his coat collar, making a huge welt on his neck and bruising his larynx - because he had been rolling a Matchbox car up and down the door of the classroom while waiting in line to go to his bus (a Matchbox car the teacher had given him, I would never have sent him to school with a toy). So much for the educational authorities being "experts" on how to deal with a special education student they had received tons of diagnostic information about.

We cannot sit in judgement on the five year old or her mother. That child could have an "invisible" disorder like autism, Asberger's, fetal alcohol effect or any number of other things. We don't know all of the mother's story. If she is poorly educated, or suffers from a mental disorder herself, she may be incapable of understanding the situation. We don't know her work situation. I have indeed worked jobs where I wasn't allowed to leave at a moment's notice, not matter what emergency was at hand - this is one reason why I left work entirely to be available for my child. If this woman is low income, she may not be able to leave without being fired - and then what options will be open to her and her children?

Who knows what the little girl's story might be? Nothing I've read says that there is a long history of problems at school, and I note that it's near the end of the school year in America - if the school had a long list of transgressions, would they have brought it up? Also, after this incident, she attended another school, and there is no mention in the media that she is causing similar problems there. There was one other incident that week, where the police were also called - I would think, if there was a long history of trouble with the child, the school would have been sure to make that known. Perhaps something is going very, very wrong with the little girl.

People mention that the mother was being evicted - did anything say why she is being evicted? People can be evicted for many reasons, not just for having unruly children. She might have not paid the rent, the building might be due to be torn down, she might have come to the end of her lease and be unable to pay increased rent. I've been evicted in the past - this doesn't automatically mean that one is a deadbeat or a lousy neighbor or a bad parent. I don't doubt that her parenting skills could use improvement, but who knows what might be going on under the surface of rather superficial news stories.

I can say this too - my son was found to be a Type One Diabetic, on top of his other problems. Until this was diagnosed, his behavior was very much out of control, due to the imbalance in his glucose levels. He would engage in just such behavior as this girl did. When we got a diagnosis and he was on an appropriate treatment program, his behavior improved markedly. This could be the case with this five year old girl - another "invisible" problem.

There are a plethora of problems that are possible, and the reporting on this event has been geared strictly toward exploitation and shock value. I also feel the assistant principal involved really mishandled the situation. If the child was picking up things and dropping them on the floor (I have read here that she was throwing things, but I didn't see her throw anything in the twenty-odd minute video I watched), why would the assistant principal take her to a room absolutely crammed with things that could be picked up and dropped or thrown? That office was absolutely cluttered with stuff - why take a child who is acting out in there? Why not take her to the gym, a bathroom, somewhere where she couldn't pick up things and drop/throw them? Why did the assistant principal just keep on saying no-no-no when it obviously didn't work? Why didn't she ask her what was wrong? Why was the door kept open while people watched the child misbehaving, whispering and commenting? Why was this in view of the other children, who passed by outside the office door?

I've taught special ed kids, and I've never seen anything done so very publicly, including the videotaping of the situation in the office. I can understand that the teacher had the videotape going in the classroom as a "self criticism" exercise, but the videotape is also running at the office. In my experience, when a kid is acting out, one of the things most schools do is to remove the child's audience, and get them out of the view of the other kids. This in itself often acts as a deterrent, as the kid now no longer has anyone to perform for. Instead, it seems from that office video that plenty of people were gathered around, taping the event and commenting, while the kids went by outside on their way to the schoolbusses.

I can fully understand why the school authorities are frustrated and tired of dealing with this child and her mother, yes - but the situation from the get-go was mishandled. And I can't, no matter how hard I try, comprehend why the police had to handcuff her and take her away in the squad car, particularly when the mother had stated that she could get to the school at three-fifteen, to see about the situation. If the school authorities feel that this situation is so severe that they have to call the police, why haven't they referred this case to CPS - and why didn't the police do so after they were called out earlier in that week?

The five year old girl needs help, and chances are, now that her mother has left the state, she will not be getting it. I thank you for telling your story, because it might help folks realize that all is not always as it appears.

I'm so glad you got a diagnosis for your son. Sometimes it takes years to come up with something that works for a child with a disorder that is not visible to the average person, and it can be a very heartbreaking and frustrating time indeed, particularly if the child is of school age and is not receiving special education he or she might need. Best of luck to you.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:07 AM
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36. i know what you mean. i couldn't keep reading them either
after people started to describe the kid as "evil." i am not in a position to see the video. even if i was, i don't know the family's circumstance, the school's circumstance, the media's take on it. all i can do is be an advocate for the kid.

i don't think a five year old has the capacity for evil. she has the capacity to be scared, or to misunderstand, to lose control, but not to do evil. i don't know the circumstances of her mother. she could be physically or mentally ill, overworked, uneducated, unable to cope. i can't judge these things from what i know.

i do know that children do best when they are treated with concern and compassion. the exact opposite of slapping handcuffs on them, hitting them, and screaming at them. i have seen posts on this board that sound like james dobson's books, and there are few people i respect less than dobson.

i think you are a great mom. you have obviously been through a lot, and worked hard to see that your kid was taken care of in the best way you can. it's unfortunate that the school personnel did not take the advice of the person who knows the child best -- you! they probably feel threatened, or that it's too much work. your son deserves an education, the same as any other.

your boy sounds like he's smart, and i hope you can make an arrangement that will enable him to continue his educational growth, and make some personal contacts also. i think the hardest part about being different is finding friends. when you act differently you seem to scare people away...

it sounds like he's got a good advocate in you - you have climbed mountains for him. i appreciate your input, and will remember all of the efforts that you made on your son's behalf. you are truly an inspiration.
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