I have to say it. I can't stand Jerry Springer!

[senseandsensibility]

He is horrible on Air America. He is boring, milk toast, earnest, and self conscious. He has ABSOLUTELY no sense of irony or humor. He is dull as it is possible to be. Between his constant efforts not to offend anyone, and his apparent desire to prove that he is more than a trash TV host, all that remains is a priggish, holier than thou, but most of all, DEADLY DULL personality that is grating and irritating.

I know he's far left. But if he can't communicate (and he can't), if he can't make politics fun, what good is he? Last week, he referred several times to Kerry losing, with no sense of irony or hint that there were questions about the legitimacy of the election. He did not mention the corporate media's role, but blamed Kerry. He lets right wingers go on and on and on for several minutes, and comes back with some half assed response. It's obvious he doesn't read liberal blogs, doesn't have a writer (he needs one; he couldn't ad lib his way out of a paper bag), and thinks that our side will win by "reasoning" with the fundies and the right wing wackos. Last week, he point blank said that he would not attack * on his personality. It's the high road or nothing for him. Problem is, he isn't good at taking the high road either. The facts that he gleans from the corporate media are not particularly compelling, to put it mildly.

What's that I'm hearing? I shouldn't listen to him then? AGREED!!!!
Problem is, they replaced Morning Sedition with this during my drive time. Now, instead of listening to the truly creative and funny Mark Marin, who writes his own material and has several recurring "bits" that are hilarious, I get to listen to this dull, uninspiring nitwit. Well, that was last week. I gave him a try. NO MAS!!


:argh:

[patricia92243]

1. The tiny bit I have heard of it (1 1/2 hours) I liked. n/t

[wryter2000]

2. I tend to agree

His riffs this week on whether we should like * or not were dumb. And, I'm truly p*ss*d that he bumped Morning Sedition from its 6 - 9 spot on the SF Bay Area station.

What I keep telling myself, though, is that he may be reaching a new audience. Namely, the folks who watch his TV show. We all know there are huge numbers of * voters who don't realize that * is ripping off regular people. I think maybe Springer will appeal to them. If so, I think he's a necessary weakness.

But I still want Mark and Mark back. :cry:

[senseandsensibility]

5. I tend to think

that Jerry's TV listeners will want a little more "action" than his radio show provides. How many of them will be willing to listen to his dull entreaties to play nice for three hours a day? Heck, I can't do it and I am a very quiet, conventional person. People need to be entertained. But thanks for sympathizing with me about the Mark Marin thing. I am really having trouble dealing with the loss.:pals:

[wryter2000]

17. Maybe we should start Marks Anonymous

:applause:

[NYCGirl]

9. Morning Sedition is still on at the same time on the AAR lineup.

You need to take it up with your local station — not Air America.

[wryter2000]

14. Yeah, I know

Mark and Mark are still on here, live. But that's 3:00 - 6:00 in the morning! Oy! I've been to KQKE's website but didn't see any way to contact them. I have to try harder.

I know it's not AAR's fault, and I know that time slot is a great one for the East Coast.

[hlthe2b]

10. I agree totally. I stream morning sedition from 4-7 AM RMST

then I've gone back to NPR morning edition. I am really surprised at how boring his show is--repetitive preachy monologue the entire time delivered in a voice that is, well, not especially radio-friendly.


For those who don't like Franken (I do), at least he offers really good guest interviews and breaks up the show with various interviews, comedy bits, and other content. Katherine L drives me nuts sometimes with her constant attempts to explain away the RW's actions and statements--in the name of "journalistic fairness?" She actually comes off as a RW apologist or extremely ill-informed/naive as a result. But, I can still listen.

Jerry, though is like fingernails on the chaulk board after about 3 minutes.

[senseandsensibility]

12. I agree with all your points

And, in addition, I am surprised at how ill informed he seems. It is obvious that he is only comfortable using conventional corporate news sources, and hasn't even begun to be suspicious of the mainstream media yet.

[wryter2000]

15. Lucky you

If M&M were on until 7:00 here, I could at least get an hour of them.

I'm with you on Katherine L. Sometimes I want to smack her.

Sometimes Franken and staff are truly brilliant, imho. The way he made that RW Bryan whatsiz look like an ignert monkey this Thursday morning is exactly what we need to be doing -- showing them to be uninformed and condescending.

[hlthe2b]

21. I'm streaming from the online connection as my AAR

station doesn't get them either. Because I'm in Denver, that means I hear them from 4 AM-7 my time, as their show is 6-9 ET, but I usually get up at 5 anyway; However, anything from 4-5 is heard in my semi-conscious. I do love MM's starting bit at "6 after the hour"-- that guitar rift and his rapid fire delivery sort of gets me going! Can't you stream them as well? (On edit, I see you are in CA, so you could only get them online from 3-6--bummer. But I do getting up to MM, so getting up at 5 is worth it to me).

I'd love to get across to Katherine L in a constructive way how irritating she is when she does that, but I think she's convinced herself that this is her "contribution" to journalism standards (?!)
I missed Thursday and Friday's Franken show, so will have to go over to AirAmericaPlace.com and pull the archives!

[lady lib]

3. Haven't heard him.

We get Charles Goyette here in Phoenix. He's a libertarian, yessiree. But he was against the Iraq war so somehow that qualified him for AAR. (In fairness to him, I'll say that he regularly has interesting guests and knows how to do a good interview.)

[yella_dawg]

4. If anyone can reach the kool-aid drinkers

and then hold them, it will be Jerry Springer. Personally, I really don't like the Rush Limbaugh rantathon school of talk radio. I like Randi, but lots of days I just have to turn her off. Jerry just keeps pounding on the truth in a calm and reasonable way, trying to connect to everyone and show them we really are all of us Americans.

Go Jerry!

[wryter2000]

16. That's my point, exactly

He isn't my cup of tea, but I think he serves a useful purpose. I wonder if there's any way to measure if he's making new inroads.

[spanone]

6. I think he 'cheapens' AAR. He sold his soul to shit television.

[senseandsensibility]

8. That's one aspect of it, spokane.

But he is going out of his way now to appear reasonable. He is dull, dull, dull. If he thinks that he is redeeming himself, he is mistaken.

[0007]

19. Only the insipid would dare think or say Jerry Springer is dull.

[hlthe2b]

22. Dear, Dear 0007. I respect your opinion, but seems you're

outnumbered here. It does appear the majority are finding Springer to be dull, dull, dull (on the radio). To each his own, but I wouldn't put money on his succeeding if he doesn't make some major adjustments to his AAR show.

[lindsayg]

7. Jerry is my 2nd favorite host on AA

Sorry to hear you find him boring.

[jrthin]

11. I've heard him and

tend to think that he creates cogent arguments against the rightwingers. Don't like him as a tv host, but he does fine on AA.

[mwb970]

13. Funny, my take is pretty much the opposite.

I was VERY disappointed when we lost "Morning Sedition" here in Columbus, but 30 seconds of Springer made me realize that we're better off with him on there. Maron is a genius, but Springer tells it like it is, every day. We need that.

[0007]

18. Jerry Springer rocks, He is a tremendous asset to AAR.

[hlthe2b]

23. He COULD be, as he is smart, articulate & dedicated progressive

But, his show badly needs formatting changes....

[0007]

24. That your opinion....and I'm more than sure Jerry Springer isn't gonna

change his format just for YOU or for the few that don't care for him.

BTW, I predict that Jerry will be around for quite a while.

[hlthe2b]

29. Jerry's smart enough to know when something isn't working

and to adjust the format accordingly. While I'm not a fan of his show, it does underscore how savy he is in "identifying his audience giving the audience what it wants."

So, I wouldn't be so sure that he won't change his format....BTW, I differentiate between not liking his show format and not liking HIM, as I think have others on this thread, so I'm not quite sure why you assumed that.

[chalky]

20. He's good at deflating those rabid freeper callers

They come in spittin' and spewin' and leave with their tails between their legs. They (well, most of them, anyway) quickly realize how idiotic their rants sound against his calm, reasonable tone and coherent arguments. THAT is refreshing to hear. (Sorry, Randi, but yes, I'm talkin' to YOU.)

That being said, he has this annoying habit of repeating the last part of his sentences which is starting to grate on me like nails down a chalkboard.

And I REEEEEALLY miss Unfiltered--complete with Lizz Winstead.

[Malva Zebrina]

25. I listened to him and liked what he was saying since he has been on

UNTIL he said that he liked Bush as a person, but that he was grossly incompetant as a president. Then went on to list the various things about Bush that a re likeable as well as the messes he had made so far.

Turned it off then.

How can anyone, knowing what Bush has perpetrated on thousands of innocent people, knowing about and hearing his lies in order to invade and conquor a country on the doctrine , or the excuse of the doctine of pre-emption, seize and grab the Iraqi spoils for corporations only, knowing how many have been killed, and I will even say murdered, when the whole thing was deliberately engineered based on outright and outrageous lies,--how can anyone say that they like Bush as a person?

That is the epitome of evading responsibility and demonstrates lack of courage enough to call Bush for what he is--not a nice man, but an evil bastard.

For what purpose does he choose to praise Bush as a "person"? He said his parents brought him up that way. Huh? How old is this guy?

[proud patriot]

26. I'm going to need some time to get used to Jerry

But I do believe he'll bring some people to AAR
who wouldn't have otherwised tuned in . I also
believe his heart is in the right place and radio
is new to him . I'm willing to give him some time
to find his footing .

[BiggJawn]

27. And I think the same about Al Franken.

With "he believes his own press releases" thrown in for good measure.

Different Bungs for Different Tongues, eh?

[iconoclastNYC]

28. *yawn*

these posts are getting old. it's like the springer haters are just trying to wear out us springer defenders.

If they replaced Morning Sedition then complain to the AA affliate, not us. We can't do anything about it.

Or podcast it. Or download the archives. (www.airamericaplace.com)