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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:17 AM
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James Dobson is the most dangerous religious right fanatic in my opinion
Several years ago I would have said Robertson but I think Dobson has taken over as the person who can do the most damage to our country. I think Dobson comes in under the radar and seems more "normal" than Robertson. Unlike Robertson and Jerry Falwell (who will not be around much longer anyway) Dobson has risen to prominence not by calling sinners to repentance but by counseling parents on raising children. To the average person he seems like a great guy!

From what I have heard he sends out well over 50 Million pieces of literature and cassettes a year. At the same time FOF has increasingly blended into it's pastoral mission public policy objectives that engage hostility toward the separation of church and state, secular public education, and gays and lesbians.

He builds a trust with the average "regular guy" and turns them into someone hostile toward all progressive stances.

The guy scares the shit out of me! More than Robertson. What do you think?

Some other nuts:

Billy McCormack
Donald Wildmon
Paul Weyrich
Randall Terry
Phyllis Schlafly

Not to mention several other nut organizations

American Family Association
Free Congress Foundation
Citizens for Excellence in Education
Concerned Women for America
Traditional Values Coalition
Operation Rescue
Wall Builders (David Barton)
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:23 AM
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1. Add Einwechter & Perkins to that list
OPERATION POTOMAC

Taking Advantage Of The 'Faith-Based' Atmosphere In Washington, Christian Reconstructionists -- The Most Radical Fringe Of The Religious Right -- Are Marching Into The U.S. Capitol And The White House

Amercans United for Separation of Church and State -- The Rev. William Einwechter has a novel solution to the problem of incorrigible juvenile delinquents -- stone them to death.
Einwechter says the stoning penalty is clearly called for in the Bible (Deuteronomy 21:18-21), and he's not ashamed to say that the punishment should still apply today.

"Properly understood," the Pennsylvania pastor argued in a January 1999 article, "it displays the wisdom and mercy of God in restraining wickedness so that the righteous might flourish in peace. It is those who reject this case law that should be embarrassed, for they have cast reproach on God and his law, cast aside the testimony of Christ and substituted their own imaginations for the blessed word of God."

Einwechter's piece appeared in Chalcedon Report, a magazine published by Christian Reconstructionists, the most aggressive and extreme wing of the Religious Right. Currently serving as vice president of an organization called the National Reform Association (NRA), Einwechter's writings frequently appear on the group's website (www.natreformassn.org).

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5628&a...


THE TONY PERKINS OF “JUSTICE SUNDAY” FAME AND DAVID DUKE CONNECTION

The Nation (5/9/05) -- Senate majority leader Bill Frist appeared through a telecast as a speaker at "Justice Sunday," at the invitation of the event's main sponsor, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins. "Justice Sunday" was promoted as a rally to portray Democrats as being "against people of faith." Many of the speakers compared the plight of conservative Christians to the civil rights movement. But in sharing the stage with Perkins, who introduced him to the rally, Frist was associating himself with someone who has longstanding ties to racist organizations.

Four years ago, Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America's premier white supremacist organization, the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South. In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,000 for his mailing list. At the time, Perkins was the campaign manager for a right-wing Republican candidate for the US Senate in Louisiana. The Federal Election Commission fined the campaign Perkins ran $3,000 for attempting to hide the money paid to Duke…

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050509&s=blumenthal
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:45 AM
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6. Jesus and stoning
that wingnut with the idea of stoning people to death has a lot of chutzpah to say Jesus would condone it, seeing as how He said, "He who is without sin cast the first stone."
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:54 AM
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2. You miss one of the craziest...
... fuckers of them all. Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr. Why? Because he's helping to bankroll many of the Dominionist movements, and has something just shy of a billion dollars to do it with--and is on record as saying that he will spend his entire fortune in furtherance of a theocratic America....
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:04 AM
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3. speaking of crazies
where does Mr. Syung Moon fit into this?
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:08 AM
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4. Another very smart nut
I understand he is 80 years old now, maybe time will catch up with him, I hope. He scares me.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:13 AM
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5. In the background...
... but not too much in the background. Want to know how Moon fits in? Check in frequently on John Gorenfeld's site:

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/

Cheers.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 07:56 AM
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7. I think Ahmanson knows about dirty tricks with the DREs too.
I suspect he's one of the guys who's in on the gaming of American democracy, what used to be American democracy at any rate, the biggeset scam and con game in American history and maybe the history of the world: secretly pre-determining the results of supposedly free elections.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:57 AM
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8. After some considerable research...
... I don't think so. There was a lot of confusion about his involvement with the precursors of ES&S, and the investments of his cousins in those firms. What still makes that an unknown is that a significant share of ES&S is privately held by McCarthy and Associates, and while there's some indication that the other Ahmanson relatives have disposed of most of their holdings in ES&S, the extent of Howard F.'s involvement at the time of his cousins' investment isn't well-known.

I think the association between electronic voting and Howard F., Jr., is the product of quite a bit of misinformation stemming from investments in ES&S's precursors by his cousins of the same name, who, from all I can find, are not overtly political and do not share their cousin's mania for theocracy. In fact, if one goes to the Ahmanson trust page (the benevolent trust set up by Howard, Jr's father and administered by his cousins), one will find that it specifically does not support religious causes. Its money has largely been spent on philanthropic projects local to Los Angeles.

People doing internet searches have been far too quick to assume that the Howard F. Ahmanson trust is aligned with Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr., and that simply isn't the case. Howard Jr.'s fund is Fieldstead (after his middle name), and it is that trust which has been supporting Chalcedon Institute and other organizations with theocratic aims.

Cheers.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:59 AM
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9. gary bauer of the family research council...one frightening dude


all these fuckers are as dangerous as jim jones, in that they have the power to stampede the herd.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:27 AM
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10. I believe you're right
The guy is really out-there and I don't think most people have figured out what a whacko he truly is.

My neighbor lent me a book by him a few years back on child-raising. I had never heard of him but looking at his picture on the back cover sent a chill up my spine. Just the first chapter was enough to make me cringe. I returned the book like a hot potato. No Thanks!!

Now we are seeing what he really is: a modern-day puritan witch-burner.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:32 AM
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11. You're right about Dobson giving an appearance of normality
A lot of normal Christians only know him from his child-rearing books and newsletters and don't understand his place in the Dominionist movement.

I used to have a boss who sent around the Focus on the Family newsletters and we had to sign off that we had read it. I'm sure I'm going to hell because I always signed that I had, even though I hadn't. :evilgrin:
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 04:29 AM
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12. To be honest
I don't think Don (and his son Tim) Wildmon are really that big of an issue any more. They cut their teeth on opposing various media issues, but have faded into the background.

Most of their stuff now is running a christian radio station (over 150 stations), doing christian programing, and running a chrisitian ISP (blocks stuff at the ISP lvl).

Although I disagree with much of it, I have no problem with them doing it if people want to buy it.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 06:23 AM
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16. Hi, LizW!
Long time, no see!

:hi:
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 06:39 AM
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17. Hi, southlandshari!
I was away a couple of days on a band trip with my son, and then I had to catch up on my SLEEP! ;)

Good to see you! :hi:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 04:47 AM
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13. Pastor Ted calls the chimp every Monday....
He is the Pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. It is within view of the Air Force Acadamy where 90% of the students there belong! Pastor Ted is also the president of the National Association of Evangelicals. Pastor Ted is one scary dude as well. He is a complete whack job and has the ear of the CIC and a lot of Military folks. If you can grab the latest Harpers there is a very long article about him and his church entitled "Soldiers of Christ". It made me very sick. :(
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 05:06 AM
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14. I dunno. Pat Robertson has taken a recent nosedive.
Edited on Tue May-03-05 05:24 AM by Xap

On Stephanopolous calling U.S. judges more dangerous than the terrorists of 9/11 or anybody else. Completely, utterly wacked out.

I could swear some of these nutjob fundies are locked in a mad race to Hell.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 06:48 AM
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18. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
About 10 years ago was when I first became familiar with "dr." Dobson and his "family oriented" propaganda. It was fine and good when it was relegated to Sunday mornings and off on the religious radio stations with the rest of the "dollar-a-hollar" preachers, but he took a more devious track.

His goal was to infiltrate the "mainstream" media (in this case it fits) by developing a "commentary" that his organization bought time on non-religious stations and then were able to syndicate across the country. This made Dobson an "authority" on family matters and gave that impression to some of being rational, credible and likeable.

Unlike others, I'm starting to like all this bible thumping...it's starting to make a lot of people very uncomfortable and having the opposite effect people like Dobson and his ilk expect. They's so out of control these days, people are starting to wonder if things have gone too far right and if there's too much religion in this country.

If this is the end result...shutting down this vile creature and others for 20 or 30 years, I'll take it.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 06:58 AM
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19. Dobson authored one of my Grade 6 textbooks back in the late 1970's
It's called "Preparing for Adolescence". Sure it was very Christian-oriented regarding teenage issues, but nothing that seemed outright fanatical. Hell, it looked like the preacher from 7th Heaven could have written it. Amazing how things develop.

On a sidenote, Dobson still is being called on for being "too liberal" on the issue of masturbation. Ironic, eh! He believes that it's fine for anyone to toss off, especially if it prevents one from indulging in sinful sex.
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