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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:31 PM
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The way media is treating smoking gun memo PROVES they're WITH the fascist
agenda of BushInc. and they have every intention of providing the cover the fascists need.

Sure, a few stories will poke through some of the hard newsprint, but, the BROADCAST MEDIA will never let this memo story get the coverage it needs.

It is TOO damaging to Bush and his entire regime. It PROVES they lied and lied with every INTENTION of deceiving the Congress, the UN and the American people.

George Bush was handed a two and a half year terror study, The Hart-Rudman Report on Global Terror on Jan.30, 2001. He refused to read it. The press refused to report Bush's act of criminal negligence to the American people.

There is only one reason that BushInc is still in power today.

Hey Carville....It's the MEDIA, stupid!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:34 PM
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1. Is this a newsflash?
:eyes:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:41 PM
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6. Well, it's been a week and NO broadcast news shows have focused on it.
Why shouldn't we keep up the drumbeat on the memo and keep calling the media out on their complicity?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:35 PM
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2. The Signs were there prior to the invasion of Iraq
Most of the media was on the "Let's go to War" bandwagon, before the first bomb was dropped. They support this administration due to fear and greed.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:38 PM
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3. Out of curiousity
Do you think the media's general pro-war attitude would change depending on who is in office?

I'm not sure it would - War is good television (shouldn't be, but it is)

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:45 PM
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7. Well, just remember back a few years
Remember Bill Clinton getting accused of 'wagging the dog' (both on Kosovo and trying to get bin Laden in Afghanistan)?

Apparently it DOES make a difference who's in power.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:48 PM
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9. Yes. When Clinton went into Bosnia, the media gave lots of air to Repubs
and their talking heads who gleefully screamed WAG THE DOG and claimed Clinton was using Bosnia and even the terror issue as a distraction from their much more important agenda of investigating the fact that he had a girlfriend.
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ibid Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:40 PM
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4. The conservative solution to anything is Hitler’s Goebbels’ solution
change what people believe by control of the media.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:40 PM
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5. Unindicted Co-conspirators.
There is no question in my mind that the corporate media interests merge perfectly with the Republican agenda. Each protects the other's position.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:47 PM
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8. What is Kerry, Dean, Reid, Hillary, etc saying about this?
Have they even issued a statement?

Any idea on when they and other top-DEMs are planning to say a sentence or two about this?

If they would speak up, or make some pointed accusations or questions, there is a chance the issue would get a little more coverage.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:53 PM
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10. HAHAH. Yeah right. The media won't cover ANYTHING they are saying
Edited on Tue May-10-05 01:56 PM by blm
when it hurts Bush. If it hurts Bush, it hurts them.

Did they cover Kerry's details of his town meetings on healthcare? No. They only pushed his brief answer to a reporter's question that he didn't think there was consensus YET in the Dem party for gay marriage in the platform and that got twisted into Kerry is bashing gays.

Hillary only gets "she's running" coverage.

Dean still gets treated like he's a loose cannon.

Reid gets press for an offhand remark that they used to make him look bad.

All are getting ignored on substantial issues they address daily.


The PRESS won't take any Dem's word seriously......unless it can get twisted against them.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:58 PM
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12. So they have yet to say anything about this memo then.
So it might work- we would have to try it.

OR- we can sit around and wait for Wolf Biltzer (R), Tony Snow (R) and Chris Matthews (R) to repeat this for us.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:34 PM
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15. Haven't seen anything. I hope it's on Thursday's Bolton schedule.
Maybe that's one place they can get coverage....unfettered....or at least, until the media chooses it's sound bites and hits the edit room.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:56 PM
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11. The Runaway Bride proved it to me
Edited on Tue May-10-05 01:58 PM by Generator
I used to think they needed:

A great picture of a blond that was presumed dead.

A dead baby

A sex scandal

A great video(Rodney King, OJ..car chase)

Something blowing up, on fire, or about to possibly explode

A CELEBRITY going to jail, or getting into some kind of trouble.

This story was barely worthy of People magazine. NO one died..no one was harmed..she wasn't blonde, a celebrity or even interesting.

The fact that they spent four solid days on that story proved we are being manipulated, and lead. They will say it's what we want to see and it's for ratings. Bullshit.

The Gannon sex angle could have played for MONTHS. It was sex, it was gay, there were pictures. But nope, a woman calling off her wedding is more intersting.

It's fucking pack of lies also known as Propaganda to serve their masters. And what was going on in that time? The usual-the congress voting against the interests of all of it's citizens that aren't millionairs and more Americans and Iraqi's dying and dying for lies.

Oh well..I'm sure one woman's wedding plans are more important.

It's so disgusting I can barely handle it. But I know I'm not alone in my disgust so that's something.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:02 PM
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13. 100% agreed. This should be all over the place.
There's no excuse. They're doing it on purpose.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:23 PM
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14. after the 9*11 fear mongering bush is god patriot act Iraq lies lies lies
was any further proof needed?

The "mainstream media" abdicated their responsibilites when they savaged Gore and fell to their knees for the coward from crawford. Its been a traitorous downhill ride ever since.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:38 PM
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16. And Big Media wonders why they are held in contempt...
Last night I tarried long enough on CNN to se Anderson Cooper and Rick Sanchez take turns riding in the back of police cars during high speed chases...

egadz...
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:39 PM
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17. I guess lies aren't important anymore.
But then again, illicit sex isn't involved so 24/7 media coverage isn't necessary.

This isn't a smoking gun; it's a freakin' cannon.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:53 PM
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18. I think they've simply been leaned on, hard, by certain phone calls
Edited on Tue May-10-05 02:55 PM by calimary
from the highest levels. They're afraid. They're afraid NOT to be in bed with these people.

Here's something that just occurred to me:

I'll BETCHA that bushco will get away with this. And this. And this. And this. And this. And finally, this agonizing additional four-year hostage hold will end. And somebody else will get into the White House. And once the bad guys are all at a safe distance out of range, and relaxing on their yachts or their vacation homes somewhere, or retired, or dead, THEN the memoirs will come out.

You'll get something from Katie Couric. You'll get something from Wolf Blitzer. Judy Woodruff may finally weigh in. Maybe a whole slew of them. And they'll all say the same thing - about how America was had, on a rotating spit, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, by these people, and there will be details. Recountings and quotings of phone calls and memos - maybe even copies of the memos in the books, right in there with the other photos in the photo section in the middle. They'll talk about media manipulation. They'll name names. They'll talk about how they were threatened and leaned on and intimidated and that insinuations were made about ending their careers for them, maybe threatening the lives of people in their family. Maybe if one of them had someone in the armed forces, the sinister hint would come about this person being redeployed to maybe a REALLY dangerous part of Baghdad if they didn't keep their mouths shut. Like that drunken raging threat dubya snarled to Woodruff and her husband, Al Hunt, AND their little boy while at dinner in a public restaurant in New York in 1988: "You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget this."

The reason I mention Katie Couric is because of a story Michael Moore tells about his appearance with her on the "Today" show. He was talking about media manipulation. The segment ends. Commercial break. They're unplugging the microphones. And she leans over to him and murmurs "you know, you're SO RIGHT" and proceeds to confirm everything he's said and everything he's said he suspects. She further confesses to an incident perpetrated against her personally: she did an interview on the "Today" show with some White House person and afterward, a phone call was placed from the vice president's office to the NBC brass "upstairs" as she put it - pointedly complaining about "her tone of voice" during the interview. She, then, got a memo from said "upstairs" - warning her that she better watch it and behave herself. Michael Moore says he urged her to write an op/ed piece about it, to come out about it, to make this public, to draw some light and heat to it - because "after all, you're KATIE COURIC! There may be three people in this whole country who can't be fired and you're one of them, for God's sakes! WHY DON'T YOU SAY SOMETHING?!?!?!?" Her response? "Someday, I will."

SOMEDAY, I WILL.

I think that "someday" will, indeed, come. But it will come only after all the traitors and criminals and other vermin and Third Reichians who need to be held accountable for this are long gone, out of range, and perhaps either dead or unlocatable/unreachable. THEN you'll probably see some confessionals from the pathetic, simpering steno pool. Maybe from some chief editor at the Washington Post or NYTimes or Time Magazine. Maybe Michael Isikoff will finally come clean. But only at the point of "by then, nobody will give a damn..." I'll bet hard cash they don't DARE do anything before that time.

I'm thinking maybe this is how it will be.

These people have evidently been threatened. Or insinuations made. Or threats that their kid's application to that toney college they're dying to go to - won't go through. Or maybe that loan you took out to cover Aunt Minnie's medical bills - won't go through. Or maybe even the reverse - you know that conversation we had about how you wished you could get your kid into Harvard and you knew you didn't have a prayer? Or - your wife has inoperable cancer - you know, there's a great vacation you could take her to - in the Grand Caymans while she can still enjoy it, and ... Well... there COULD be a way... Oh, and by the way, about that other thing... make sure you sit on it, 'eh? If it turns up on the front page... "

Remember the anthrax scare? The Enquirer photographer who'd taken pictures of Jenna and Barbara drunk in some disco evidently was the one who got one delivery - and died. Others went to Tom Brokaw and the New York Times. Nobody ever got to the bottom of those, either, did they? And it was timed directly on the heels of 9/11, when most of America including the press was scared straight out of its collective socks.

Frankly, I'm scaring myself a little as I write this. But this is what I think has happened. The media got the message, alright. Boy, did they ever. And then, our country "gets" it, too. Straight up the ass.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:19 PM
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21. They're afraid NOT to be in bed with these people.
the owners ARE these people.

:hi:

peace
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:56 PM
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24. I agree with you on every point and believe it's gone down EXACTLY as you
say in this post.

So, basically, there will be NO coverage of the crimes until......

or....


Until more than one of them stands up.

Maybe when Mary Mapes speaks out?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:23 PM
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27. you should post this in its own thread....
it reallly deserves to get more eyeballs than it would here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:57 PM
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32. repeating request....
your post really deserves its own thread....it needs more eyeballs. My thread can't do your post any justice.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:12 PM
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19. page 15 in today's Denver Post
woo-hoo


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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:14 PM
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20. The RW Propaganda Machine Architects Meet in DC every Wed!
I knew it was bad but not this bad. I am in the middle of a Vanity Fair article by RFK Jr. It is a new forward in his book.



The article is the scariest most depressing news about the RW Media machine in America I have ever read. He interviews David Brock who in his book, The Republican noise Machine, talks of this shadowy group of participants lead by....... GROVER NORQUIST!

Quote "Every Wednesday morning the leaders of 80 conservative orginizations meet in DC in Norquist's boardroom. This radical cabal formulates policy with the RNC and the WH, developing talking points that go out to the conservative media via a sophistcated fax tree. Soon millions of Americans are hearing the same message from cable news comentators and thousands of talk jocks across America. Their precicely crafted message and language then percolate through the MSM to form the underlying assumptions of our national debate."

Now I ask you. How in the fuck can we fight back against this firmly embedded propaganda machine? :(
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 11:23 PM
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31. And the opposition is meeting this weekend!.. see link here..
http://www.freepress.net/conference/

I'll be there.. I hope to report back here on DU. :)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:35 PM
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22. Chalk another one up
Hey, if we pare down the list of uncovered, miscovered, or undercovered stories down to the most spectacular that would have led to the derailing of the Coup it might not be LBN but it might help those who finally get it with new uncovered scandals by the MSM.

The epitome, at least for me since I was watching as I typed on the keyboard, was last election night. It went from apprehension that Bush might lose to tunnel vision as the crimes unfolded to glaucoma as the exit polls hit the second coup d'etat to the blind leading the blind with the relieved expert spinning of how the exit polls showed how Bush "won". The only time they emerged from their non-commmittal cocoon was when faced with the "results" they merrily could pontificate wisely and absolutely on how it happened.

Do you expect them to report intentionally anything to damage this administration? It is so bad I wonder when they appear to and usually you don't have long to wait for them to defuse and shrink and let go of damning stories, never doing enough research and certainly never getting the point.

You can prove too that the media lied with every intention of deceiving the American people and influencing Congress and in spite of available data and the entire world of journalism outside the good old USA.

Add it to their Nuremberg wood pile.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:48 PM
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23. Same for the coverage of Selection 2000
Edited on Tue May-10-05 03:49 PM by Octafish
Same for the coverage of e-Selection 2004

Same for the coverage of 9-11 Cover-up

Same for the coverage of Bush-bin Laden connection

Same for the coverage of Bush-ENRON connection

Same for the coverage of Cheney-Halliburton connection

Same for the coverage of Iran-Contra

Same for the coverage of Arming Iraq and BNL

Same for the coverage of BCCI

Same for the coverage of INSLAW PROMIS software caper

Same for the coverage of October Surprise

Same for the coverage of Bush-JFK Assassination connection

(In Yul Bryner's voice: "Etc. etc. etc.")

You get the picture, blm.

Wish more Americans would...
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:00 PM
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25. don't watch CMC news
but I know Olberman covered it yesterday. (The only one I watch regularly other than Jon)
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:04 PM
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26. Yes. Our suspicions are now completely confirmed. There can no longer
be any doubt, and realistically, anyone that does doubt this is a blithering fool.

There is no excuse for this story to not be on every newspaper's front page, and on every radio and television newscast.

With the exception of very, very few semi-MSM outlets, almost our entire press is collaborating with the fascist totalitarianists.
:puke:

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:29 PM
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28. It's very simple. They are all hooked into the Heritage Foundation.
If you haven't seen their "press room" page, be prepared for a shock.

Remember--I warned you...

http://www.heritage.org/press/

Note this, too:
24-Hour Media Hotline:
(202) 675-1761

The so-called journalists are so damn lazy that the HF is considered a reliable source for research.

I repeat--I warned you.

And the entire operation is TAX-EXEMPT.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:31 PM
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29. fascists make money OFF of government, they don't pay for its upkeep.
.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:48 PM
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30. Besides Rep. John Conyers, which elected Dems or members of the DNC
have raised this as an issue?
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