UdoKier
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Thu May-12-05 01:15 PM
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Poll question: POLL: Are you considering/planning to leave the US? |
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Are you considering/planning to leave the US?
My family are planning to move back to Japan within the next 4 years. Not entirely for political reasons, although that is a factor. The US is becoming so stratified that it's a struggle for regular working people just to get by here. In Japan we have inexpensive, excellent universal health care. We also need to go there to take care of my wife's father, who is getting on in age. We considered bringing him here, but again HEALTH CARE would be the major problem. No way to insure someone his age, so we'd be spending a fortune out of pocket to pay the health care gougers.
There is also the educational factor. Although my son has a great elementary school here in LIBERAL San Francisco (it's great BECAUSE it's liberal), the middle schools and high schools in Japan are far superior.
So how about you?
PS, to the knuckle-draggers at the "other sites" who inevitably get a kick out of polls like this: Bite me. You people are pathetic. You've never been or lived overseas, or even in a major US city. You crow about the US being "the best" because you have NO frame of reference for comparison other than Rush telling you how "National healthcare in Canada/Europe is a dismal failure", and of course you believe him because you're too stupid to go and see for yourself. So STFU.
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Thu May-12-05 01:18 PM
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Thu May-12-05 01:21 PM
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6. Would love to go but.... |
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can't find work abroad; have aged (and other) family here some of whom require care; am no wealthy enough to expatriate myself without employment abroad.
Guess I could become a missionary.... :puke:
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Thu May-12-05 01:19 PM
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3. I'm seriously considering/planning to leave this planet!! |
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Thu May-12-05 01:21 PM
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4. I am considering moving abroad |
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for political reasons...but only when I have given up all hope. We are working on getting out of debt so that we are in a position to move in the event of a draft, another rigged election, or the destruction of our constitution.
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Thu May-12-05 01:21 PM
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Edited on Thu May-12-05 01:22 PM by Zorra
Left right after the 2000 selection.
Main reason: I cannot in good conscience support the US government in any way under a fascist dictatorship.
Secondary reasons: I don't want to live in a fascist dictatorship. I detest Bush supporting little republican fascists, and don't hardly ever have to deal with them.
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Thu May-12-05 01:21 PM
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7. Yes, but less so than a few months ago |
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I got a postdoctoral fellowship at a US university so I plan to hang on for a bit. But my job search will be strictly west coast and overseas.
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Thu May-12-05 01:22 PM
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8. I'm buying a sailboat. Converting my inheritance to Euros, depositing |
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my money in a Caymans Island bank and sailing to Costa Rica, living on my boat till the fascists are out of power.
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Thu May-12-05 01:22 PM
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but I don't think I could afford to right now.
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Thu May-12-05 01:22 PM
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I have no where else to go, so I have drawn my line in the sand and will make my stand here.
I will fight if there is no other alternative, I will kill before I am killed, I will resist to my last breath, and will give my life.
But I will not run, I will not hide, like those before who gave their all I will fight.
I have been fortunate enough to have been to other countries, but they are not the land of my birth, this is.
I wish you a safe journey, and also your family. Say a prayer to whatever deity you believe in for those of us who will remain.
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Thu May-12-05 01:31 PM
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16. Japan is no utopia. It's run a bunch of Bush-coddlers (the LDP) |
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In many ways it's more egalitarian than the US, but Koizumi is pathetically beholden to Bush (an Asian Blair) and they do next to nothing for their homeless. My wife will be involved in politics there, and I'll support her efforts.
But yes, best of luck to those staying here.
In 4 years, my son will be 11, and I'm confident that he will have a good foundation of English ability and understanding of US "culture" (LOL), and will be ready to go back for immersion in his other native culture.
When they are 21, my kids will have to choose Japanese or US citizenship. If they pick Japanese citizenship, I'll forfeit mine and become a Japanese citizen too.
I can live in either country, they are both equally easy/difficult to live in.
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Thu May-12-05 03:16 PM
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29. One difference between Japan and the U.S. is that |
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you don't have the Fristians trying to control everyone's private life or cause the end of the world.
The LDP are conservative (stagnant, is more like it), but they're not into gratuitous meanness (like cutting health care to pay for wars) and they are actually thinking about the future.
If I didn't have elderly parents to worry about here, I'd be sorely tempted to pick up and move to Japan.
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Thu May-12-05 01:23 PM
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11. I voted I'd like to but can't |
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Financial obligations/restrictions prohibit me from moving across the street, much less another country.
I imagine this is true for many. It's like an invisible Berlin Wall.
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Thu May-12-05 01:23 PM
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12. I'd love to leave but the * ruined the dollar and my nest egg ... |
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is worth significantly less overseas.
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Thu May-12-05 01:25 PM
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it's my country and I will stay and fight but if there is a draft I want my sons to leave. I won't give them to any neocon wars.
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Thu May-12-05 01:25 PM
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unfortunately I can't get a good set of fingerprints. Imagine that, all this time I could have been considering jewelry heists with Sean Connery and Zeta Jones....
:evilgrin:
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Thu May-12-05 01:29 PM
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15. HELL, NO. I ain't going anywhere. |
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The Dems have finally lit the fire under the Repukes arses, and I want to stay to watch them burn! Maybe there will be fireworks and popcorn afterwards?!?!?! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Thu May-12-05 01:31 PM
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17. i dream of moving abroad |
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but until my son graduates, I'm here for at least another 4 years. My husband is English so thats always a possibility or I'd love to move to Canada.
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Thu May-12-05 01:37 PM
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18. Everything I know about schools in Japan I learned from Anime. |
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The kids apparently do no schoolwork whatsoever, are highly oversexed, and often have special powers.
Sounds like fun!
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Thu May-12-05 01:40 PM
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19. Umm, yeah. It's exactly like that. |
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The girls have eyes the size of saucers, constantly friskily reveal their panties, and speak in voices four octaves higher than Mariah Carey can sing.
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Thu May-12-05 02:35 PM
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Ha ha...I kid, I kid. Good luck with your children.
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Thu May-12-05 01:42 PM
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I love this country (not its current government) a LOT. I've lived overseas and have appreciated what other countries have to offer, but I've always felt like a foreigner. I get the jokes here. I know the history. I love the varieties of landscape and people. My family and friends are all here.
But I'm watching. If things get too bad... I'll start making calls.
A draft would do it, definitely.
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Thu May-12-05 01:50 PM
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21. No, my papers likely wouldn't be in order |
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Thu May-12-05 01:51 PM
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22. The house closes escrow June 15, the kid is enrolled in her new school |
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just outside Cannes, France, we depart around July 5th for our new life.
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Thu May-12-05 02:17 PM
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23. STAY HERE! We need Dem voters! |
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PLEASE everybody stay here because we need all the liberal/progressive/Democratic/Green voters and activists here in this country to resist the right-wingers! If you want to move, it would be better if you live in a safe red or blue state to move to a close red or blue state where you might make a difference in the next election!
Ron
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Thu May-12-05 02:26 PM
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25. If it was strictly about the politics, might stay. |
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But the problem with blue states and cities is, the blue areas are the MOST POPULAR, the most people want to live there, so the cost of housing there is the most outrageous. All of the inexpensive (IE unpopular) areas are RED.
But regardless, we would have to move. There's nobody else to take care of my FIL.
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Thu May-12-05 02:27 PM
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26. You can vote absentee from pretty much anywhere. n/t |
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Thu May-12-05 02:24 PM
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24. I booked my ticket yesterday |
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I will be waving goodbye to Chimpy and company for the last time in 29 days.
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Thu May-12-05 02:28 PM
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I love it up here in Canada; I doubt I'll ever come back unless we get a serious change, but I'm not hopeful.
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Fri May-13-05 09:59 AM
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30. Costa Rica in 10 years, 330 days. |
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