from Afghanistan to Pakistan people are celebrating Bush's policies

[G_j]

:sarcasm:
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Anti-US Protests Rage from Afghanistan to Pakistan

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/051305Y.shtml

Anti-US Protests Spread to Pakistan
The Associated Press

Friday 13 May 2005

Islamabad - Pakistan Pakistan's Islamic groups will hold anti-America rallies across the country later Friday to protest the alleged desecration of Islam's holy book, the Quran, at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a spokesman said.

The demonstrations come two days after thousands of students angered by the reported abuse set fire to shops, offices of aid workers and Pakistan's consulate in the Afghan city of Jalalabad. Seven people were killed in two days of rioting starting Wednesday.

The trouble began after Newsweek magazine reported in its May 9 edition that interrogators at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, placed Qurans in washrooms to unsettle suspects, and in one case "flushed a holy book down the toilet."

Many of those held prisoner at Guantanamo Bay are Muslims who have been arrested during the U.S.-led war against terror in Afghanistan.

Pakistan is a conservative Muslim nation where insults to the Quran and Islam's prophet Muhammad are regarded as blasphemy and punishable by death.

..more..


------------------------------------------------------------------- Worst Anti-US Protests Spread across Afghanistan, Three More Dead
Agence France-Presse

Friday 13 May 2005

The biggest anti-US protests since the fall of the Taliban spread across Afghanistan, as unrest sparked by alleged abuse of the Koran at the US jail in Guantanamo Bay left three more people dead.

Seven people have been killed and at least 76 injured during three days of violent demonstrations, all of them in clashes with security forces and police in conservative towns east of the capital Kabul.

Angry Afghans shouting "Death to America" poured onto the streets of Kabul itself for the first time Thursday as protests at the reported religious desecration also broke out in 10 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces.

The Koran controversy has also spread to Pakistan, where demonstrations were held in Peshawar and Quetta, two major cities close to the border with Afghanistan.

..more..

[ComerPerro]

1. Freedom is on the march!

[peacetalksforall]

2. As time goes by it has become obvious that not only did PNAC want

to rule the entire region for control of oil and water and the protection of Israel....they wanted to vilify the Muslims.

Rumsfeld and PNAC are criminals. They could have coached these soldiers in the do's and don't of cultural differences and sensitivites. All those soldiers were granted 'PERMISSION' to do the horrible things they are doing. These horrible acts are coming from the top.

And who is taking the blame so far....two females and one male. Every single person who is accused of killing outside the war protocal gets off. Sanchez gets off. Everyone is pure except two females and one male. This is justice in American and its PNAC 'worlds'.

This has got to stop because it does not accurately reflect the majority of people in the U.S.

We are not this evil. There is definitely a crusade of contempt for the people of other countries on the earth...except England and Israel.

How much longer does PNAC and the Fed Society and the military, intelligence, banking, corporate, government, and religious cabal get to rule?

[G_j]

4. Camp Delta : New details of abuse & sexual torture: Several interviews

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3622978


Soldier lifts lid on Camp Delta

For the first time, an army insider blows the whistle on human rights abuses at Guantánamo

Paul Harris in New York
Sunday May 8, 2005
The Observer

An American soldier has revealed shocking new details of abuse and sexual torture of prisoners at Guantánamo Bay in the first high-profile whistleblowing account to emerge from inside the top-secret base.

Erik Saar, an Arabic speaker who was a translator in interrogation sessions, has produced a searing first-hand account of working at Guantánamo. It will prove a damaging blow to a White House still struggling to recover from the abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.

In an exclusive interview, Saar told The Observer that prisoners were physically assaulted by 'snatch squads' and subjected to sexual interrogation techniques and that the Geneva Conventions were deliberately ignored by the US military.
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* Inside the Wire: A Military Intelligence Soldier's Eyewitness Account of
Life at Guantanamo *

We speak with former army sergeant, Erik Saar who served as an Arabic
translator at Guantanamo Bay for six months. Among the abuses he says he
witnessed was sexual abuse, mock interrogations, the use of dogs and a
female interrogator smearing what looked like menstrual blood on a Muslim
prisoner. He also says the military ordered them not to speak to the Red
Cross.
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<snip>
ERIK SAAR: That day, a technique was used in the interrogation booth where sex was used as a weapon to create a wedge between the detainee we were speaking with and his faith. For example, more specifically, the female interrogator I worked with that day sought to sexually entice the detainee. The logic behind that was that if he would be sexually attracted to her, he would feel unclean, and therefore, she believed, in Islam, he would be unable to go back to his cell and pray. One thing she additionally did in order to humiliate him and also to make him feel unclean was wipe what was red ink on his face, but it was done in a way that he believed it was menstrual blood. All of this again was in an attempt to create this wedge between himself and his religion and not only was it ineffective, but I thought it was unethical.

AMY GOODMAN: Could you describe the events in detail? I mean, what happened? You were sitting in the room translating, and she walked in the room, the prisoner already there or brought in after?

ERIK SAAR: I walked in with her. The prisoner had already been there waiting for a good period of time before we arrived. He was shackled to the floor and forced to hunch over. We were asking him -- telling him to be cooperative. She was explaining -- saying that, you know, this is going to be unpleasant for you. After a break, we then returned to the interrogation booth, and that was when she started taking off her outer blouse, where she was wearing a tight t-shirt underneath, and she was touching herself and trying to arouse the detainee.

AMY GOODMAN: What was she saying to him?

ERIK SAAR: She was saying, you know, it doesn't have to be this way. We could sit across a table and talk like adults, but I could tell -- and then she went on to say -- I could tell that you're aroused by me. How do you think Allah feels by you being attracted to an American infidel?
<snip>


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From The 60 Minutes story:

'Sex-Up' Tactics At Gitmo?


<snip>
He (Sgt. Erik Saar, a soldier who spent three months in the interrogation rooms at Guantanamo Bay) told 60 Minutes about one interrogation in particular, in which he translated for a female interrogator who was trying to break a high-priority prisoner — a Saudi who had been in flight school in the United States.

"As she stood in front of him, she slowly started to unbutton her Army blouse. She had on underneath the Army blouse a tight brown Army T-shirt, touched her breasts, and said, 'Don't you like these big American breasts?'" says Saar. "She wanted to create a barrier between this detainee and his faith, and if she could somehow sexually entice him, he would feel unclean in an Islamic way, he would not be able to pray and go before his God and gain that strength, so the next day, maybe he would be able to start cooperating, start talking to her."

But the prisoner wasn’t talking, so Saar said the interrogator increased the pressure.

"She started to unbutton her pants and reached and put her hands in her pants and then started to circle around the detainee. And when she had her hands in her pants, apparently she used something to put what appeared to be menstrual blood on her hand, but in fact was ink," says Saar.

"When she circled around the detainee, she pulled out her hand, which was red, and said, 'I'm actually menstruating right now, and I'm touching you. Does that please your God? Does that please Allah?' And then he kind of got pent up and shied away from her, and she then took the ink and wiped it on his face, and said, 'How do you like that?'"
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[WEagle]

7. How do you think Allah feels by you being attracted to an American infidel

just great.
And what did they put England on trial for? At Gitmo 'sexual torture' was policy.

[spooked911]

5. You're right-- these people are insane and if they stay in power

we're seriously screwed.

How many people have to do die before the people in power sees this horrible mistake?

[Roland99]

3. Dennis Prager was partly blaming the Afghani deaths on Newsweek

for having published that article about the Qu'ran being flushed down a toilet.

:eyes:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Those durned "unexpected" consequences.

The Pentagon and CIA have their rose-colored spectacles on, as usual. They torture prisoners and kill people and expect that the people will not harbor some resentment against them.

Just like those "insurgents" in Iraq are all "outsiders" or "Baathists".
Funny how that small minority of badguys can find shelter all over Iraq.

"The guerilla is the fish that swims in the sea of the people." Mao.

[Jara sang]

8. Why do they hate America?

Ohhhh yeaaaah... It's because we bomb the living shit out of them continuously.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

9. Thank god we will have bolton to improve our realations w/the world.

:crazy: