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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:36 PM
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will bush be able to escape the law by saying 'I had no clue' like Reagan?
dubya, clueless comin' and goin' like ronny. ronny escaped prosecution and jail for high treason, can slick georgey?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:37 PM
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1. nobody has a clue anymore
Edited on Fri May-13-05 06:40 PM by sweetheart
The american economic system is deliberately designed, that heinous
crimes can be done, and "nobody" is responsible. Everyone can point to
the division of labour and say, "I was just following what 'they' said."
Its the irony of cutting and dividing labour in to parts.... arms
without morals, gun-trigger-fingers without brains, brians without
conscience... and and the end of the day, a series of, what are otherwise,
sovereign individuals, can collectively act like a bunch of jackasses
and after the end of it all, have committed atrocious crimes.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:40 PM
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2. Why do you think they set up the "surrounds himself w/ smart people" TP?
Edited on Fri May-13-05 06:41 PM by Solly Mack
TP=talking point.

It was his 'pre-emptive' defense should it ever turn bad for them.

Which isn't to say I think Shrub has been clueless at all about any of it. He's known..whether he made the decisions or not.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:40 PM
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3. Not if these future ninjas have their way
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:41 PM
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4. he has to answer to the world....
not Scalia...
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:41 PM
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5. I never thought he had a clue to begin with
It just goes to show how not in charge he is.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:51 PM
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6. i don't remember. i don't recall. i have no memory of
anything at all....


worked for Reagan....why not?!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:54 PM
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7. reagan said that over 150 times under oath
then quoted lincoln perfectly
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:05 PM
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8. His apparent dumbness seems to have infected Larry Speakes
This is from a press conference in 1982, just as the AIDS breaks out:

"Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement from the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?
MR. SPEAKES: What's AIDS?
Q: Over a third of them have died. It's known as "gay plague." (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it's a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?
MR. SPEAKES: I don't have it. Do you? (Laughter.)
Q: No, I don't.
MR. SPEAKES: You didn't answer my question.
Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President ...
MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.)
Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?
MR. SPEAKES: No, I don't know anything about it, Lester.
Q: Does the President, does anyone in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry?
MR. SPEAKES: I don't think so. I don't think there's been any ...
Q: Nobody knows?
MR. SPEAKES: There has been no personal experience here, Lester.
Q: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping ...
MR. SPEAKES: I checked thoroughly with Dr. Ruge this morning and he's had no - (laughter) - no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is.
Q: The President doesn't have gay plague, is that what you're saying or what?
MR. SPEAKES: No, I didn't say that.
Q: Didn't say that?
MR. SPEAKES: I thought I heard you on the State Department over there. Why didn't you stay there? (Laughter.)
Q: Because I love you Larry, that's why (Laughter.)
MR. SPEAKES: Oh I see. Just don't put it in those terms, Lester. (Laughter.)
Q: Oh, I retract that.
MR. SPEAKES: I hope so.
Q: It's too late.

Reagan, as gay activists still angrily point out, never mentioned the word in public until 1987, by which time about 60,000 cases had been diagnosed, of whom half had died.

The lack of significant federal funding to combat AIDS is cited by many as a major factor in the dramatic spread of the disease.

In the critical years of 1984-1985, according to his White House physician, Reagan thought of AIDS as though "it was measles and would go away"."

Found this at tompaine.com some time ago.

What if AIDS had been nipped in the bud instead of being constantly written off as 'measles'?

Tells you a lot about Reagan.
If Bush will get away with the things he have done? I find that hard to believe. There must be some sort of public trial after this, and he won't survive that politically if the media starts ... um... working again.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:07 PM
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9. reagan lied like a dog, they crucified Bill over one lie, then, dubya
lies like a dog
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:21 PM
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10. guess republicans got that secret teflon coating spray that deflects
scrutiny -- when they lie -- media says, "ok, just how long do you like to bike on a hot day?"
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:47 PM
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13. his lie was actually abut wether a door was open or closed.. that is what
what he was actually convicted of... or impeached for
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:26 PM
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11. No clue about what??? What are you referring to exactly?
Edited on Fri May-13-05 07:26 PM by pbartch
I mean....I know he hasn't done A SINGLE THING RIGHT.....but what are you referring to?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:43 PM
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12. I think they actually gave Reagan a Lobadomy, Bu$h does fall down a lot
Edited on Fri May-13-05 07:44 PM by sam sarrha
and bash in his head... they might just give him a pretzel big enough he cant caugh up...

:shrug:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:30 PM
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16. bush lobotomized himself for 30 years with coke and whiskey
they will be compared historically
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:54 PM
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14. Dubya makes Reagan look downright intelligent
Sure he can get away with it. That's what sucks so completely.
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nittygritty Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:00 PM
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15. What's to escape?
He makes the law. He's King Georgie the Clueless Law Ranger:

"now watch this drive..."
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