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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:00 PM
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in the near future, how will we explain the bush jr. years to the kids?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:03 PM
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1. Same way a mom explains why she married wife beater dad
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:03 PM
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2. As a period of...
... national insanity, similar to that of pre-war Germany.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:12 PM
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6. Simple
Edited on Fri May-13-05 07:13 PM by FreedomAngel82
I save a lot of video's on data discs and will keep them with me. Plus I have the three debate's and can show them. Say, see? Look at this moron. He was running the country. Then I have a lot of election fraud video's to show as well. I also have journals I write my thoughts in about the latest happenings. Like what recently happened earlier this week in DC with the moron out bike riding.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:03 PM
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3. I think about that quite a bit.
I save articles (even from the rightwing websites) and comment on them, like we do here.

I'm saving this stuff to show my daughter, when she is old enough, what really happened.

I collect the pertinent DVDs too.

I want her to be able to discuss why the war in Iraq was an illegal, immoral, unjust and unnecessary invasion and occupation.

I want to realize how hard her mommy fought so that she would get a decent education free of Religious Right proselytizing.

Thanks for the post - good topic.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:11 PM
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5. What a wise woman you are, Maat
It is so smart and forward-thinking of you to put that all together for future generations. It will be a wonderful history lesson for your daughter, one based in reality and not in mythology.

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:18 PM
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18. Ah, thanks.
I also got worried and ordered a few books I want to read to her about different families coming together, and about evolution.

I'm probably getting a little paranoid.

I found a small private school for her to go to - where there is NO Religious Right message.

I don't know about you, but I am awfully concerned about what they are sneaking into public school these days.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:07 PM
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4. The same way we talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge
...and Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. The truth will set them free.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:15 PM
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7. Now, that IS the question...
that i have been trying to answer for myself. And, the more you dig, the more dirt you end up with. History... i hope, will reveal Jr. as the last in a long line of front men for a group of very powerful corporate elite.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:16 PM
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8. Shut up, pretend to pray and then eat your gruel. n/t
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:21 PM
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10. we have our winner
and be glad you have that!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:42 PM
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14. Didn't know this was a contest. This was the first thing that
popped into my head. In my old age, with no Social Security, I will look back on this honor and wish I had some Friskies to eat.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:20 PM
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9. After the Goths and the Vandals had sacked Rome...
eom.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:31 PM
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11. Hopefully when the lights are on so they can sleep later
without nightmares . . .

"and after the Resident was led away in his orange jumpsuit, they lived happily ever after . . ."
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:33 PM
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12. Great question. One I've thought about often
I think I will tell them that this is what happens when the media stops doing their jobs, when a couple of conglomerates control what news gets out to the public. And we will all say 'never again!'. And hopefully we'll mean it this time.

Recommended for greatest!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:34 PM
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13. The shame years of America.n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:44 PM
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15. As a shining example
of what doing drugs can do to your brain.:silly:
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:52 PM
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16. A period of severe mental illness
Do you believe a country can be mentally ill? I do, and I think that's what we are experiencing. I don't have any evidence to offer but it's the only concept that makes any sense to my mind.

Our country has chosen (or allowed) a dry drunk as our representative and leader, one whose actions we don't understand. We are involved in a major war that we don't understand, and sacrificing our young and strong to it. Much of the country votes for policies that act against their own interests. The country has mortgaged away its prosperity to benefit the few, taken on decades worth of debt and sacrifices education and social safety net in exchange. The country is giving away it's treasure of natural resources to a few in exchange for personal favors. The country has focused on the short-term and abandoned its future. Diplomoacy and sharing are out, while accumulation and exercise of power and bullying rule relationships with others (i.e. abusing). No one is accountable or responsible - rather, the "blame game" is all the rage. Some trusted parental-surrogate organizations spread fear, hatred and divisiveness. Other trusted organizations repeat lies and propaganda, having given away their individuality and independence.

In short, the country is indulging in behaviors that are out of control, abusive, irresponsible, immature and self-destructive.

If we were to see an individual behaving in such a manner, we'd recognize them as being mentally ill and have them locked up for their own good and self-protection.



So that's my diagnosis - the country is mentally ill. How can we cure it?




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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:56 PM
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17. You're assuming that we won't be in a BushCo re-education camp
in the near future. I don't have kids so I don't have this problem.

If you want an answer to this question, ask the Germans what they told their kids after WWII.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:14 PM
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37. I think about that, a lot. So who are the "Good Germans" of today?
Citizens of Empire, speak out! The Emperor is naked, and stupid!!
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:37 PM
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19. I already explain him to my 4 & 5 year old.
I told them straight out that the person acting as leader of our country cheated to win the election. Whenever they hear his name they say they do not like him because it is wrong to cheat.

I will educate them more as they get older but they proudly say this where ever we may be and all on their own. I am so proud!!!!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:41 PM
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20. There's a lot to understand before answering that.
And despite how things look, I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of crap comes out that REALLY makes it all clear.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 05:29 PM
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23. I think that too...
At least, I keep hoping that it is so.

It's hard to be in the middle of things, isn't it, without the benefit of history for perspective.

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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:09 PM
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21. son, look this is a bible
son now look at this, this is the US Constitution

When you were born way back in 2004, our president at the time would shit on the Constitution and read the bible while doing it

he is now serving a life sentence for his crimes

the end

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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:11 PM
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22. 911 madness.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 05:48 PM
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24. I'm hoping we'll find its just a mass case of Ergotism
Edited on Sat May-14-05 05:52 PM by TorchesAndPitchforks
http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci590/5_1Poisons%20of%20the%20Past%20Ergotism.htm

I'd sure feel better if we can claim this period of insanity in our history as the result of hallucinogenic micro-fungi. I don't want to believe my country reacted this way to 911 because that's the kind of people we really are...


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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 05:54 PM
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25. The years when the extreme RW took control of all the levers of power in
government and destroyed the fiscal integrity of the Federal government, international goodwill and institutions, some other nations, and the rule of law, nearly destroyed the environment, and tried to destroy social security. And the people clamored: four more years, four more years.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 06:07 PM
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26. Hopefully if you're having kids you're EMIGRATING
and you'll explain it in the future like this:

Some Nazis, descended from a long line of Nazis, stole the elections beginning in the year 2000. The biggest of these Nazis started some wars, and he and his Nazi party started doing other Nazi-like things like abolishing civil rights for anyone the top Nazis didn't like. Well things got worse and worse until your Mommy and I decided we had to leave America, because we were already thinking of you although you weren't with us yet. We left where we were born so you could be born and grow up in a normal country where you wouldn't be driven to Nazihood yourself by the made up fears Nazis scare each other with, and where you'd be safe--we hoped--from the wars the Nazis always start in order to steal things they want from other people.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 06:12 PM
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27. I ask people this often, and the answer depends on what you are doing now.
Edited on Sat May-14-05 06:13 PM by ReadTomPaine
Will you need to hang your head in shame and say you did nothing or will you be able to tell them about how you fought tooth and nail against it all? It's the people who have done nothing, or have actually aided this madness, that will have most to explain but little to say.

A person's answer to what they did during these years will hang like an epitaph around their neck in years to come. What will yours say?

RTP
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FDR Democrat Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 06:18 PM
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28. The Dark Ages...
Edited on Sat May-14-05 06:20 PM by FDR Democrat
It was dreadful and bad kids. A Oil man from Texas named Bush and a Fat man named Karl took over the country. they stole from the poor to give to the very very very rich, they declared war for senseless reasons and sent many Americans to there graves. Are money became worthless and people became insane and crazy. There were hurricanes and floods landslides and mudslides rain in midsummer and heat waves during Christmas there were witch hunts and book burning, there were riots and panic. A massive tsunami killed thousands and the Oil man and the Fat man did nothing but let them drown. They even tried to starve old people like grandma and grandpa to death. Then the real radicals came and declared a holy war in the land but thankfully a bit of luck and grace from God came and saved the land and calmed there fears, a bolt of lighting came from the sky and struck down the oil man and the fat man and an earthquake finished off all there fellow cronies and things recovered.

Other then that kids it was great the oil man always said the funniest things. Now go back to sleep or the oil man will come get'ya.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 06:42 PM
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29. dante's inferno
vampires really do exist, a lesson in total greed and evil. love the cartoon
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 06:47 PM
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30. Sort of like explaining Hitler
We'll just have to tell the kids that Bush was an evil man who stole two elections and ruined the country.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:00 PM
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31. What did We do Wrong?
Every Year on the 4th of July. He should be given an Independence. He should be taken out into the courtyard for a press conference. He likes to have his picture taken. God knows he has a lot to account for. Then we can see how long it takes for him to improve upon his Syllabication.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:17 PM
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32. With Great Embarassment.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:11 PM
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33. ermm, by then..
.. kids will have no future, and everyone will be smart enough to know that that is because of Bushco.

Sue
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:15 PM
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34. The same way Germans explained Hitler to their children.
We didn't know what happened at Abu-Gariab, Dachau, and Auschwitz.
We didn't want to look, there were reports, we let people with bad motives summarize them for us.
We liked that he said he was a Christian, it gave us confidence in his ultimate compassion.
We liked morality of telling others what we don't like: gays, abortionists, and Jews--well, Islamics.
We liked bringing order, democracy to other nations: Poland, France, ... Afghanistan, Iraq, ...
We liked tax breaks while ignoring that we borrowed more than we saved.
We loved consuming resources to the fullest while we made war and depleted to extinction what we took for granted.
We loved telling dissenters that they were unpatriotic.
We liked sending dissenters away so we didn't have to listen to conflict, so instead we could dance and go to plays and nightclubs hearing only what we wanted to hear.
We liked media that did not bother us with disturbing ideas.

Maybe someday, some other country will come along and embarass themselves moreso than we embarassed ourselves, then we won't have to feel so bad.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:29 PM
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35. let's just hope they will be writing a new and better chapter! n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:35 PM
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36. in the near future... i have trouble right now.
but being an evil DU'er from waaay back they knew bush was ILLIGIT from jump.

i like show'n them my favorite 'underground' art work especially from the talented evil DUers ;-) and we never miss the Simpsons :evilgrin:

:hi:

peace
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 05:31 AM
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41. the future is now
my kids are all grown up now, but belive me, if my kid asked, he'd get the full story. crooks and killers took over in 2000
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:20 PM
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38. Inbreeding and votting machines
are a dangerous combinition. I am sorry mopaul thats the best I can do for you right now.
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:10 AM
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39. We will tell them...
...it was the Old Economy's last ditch effort to stay alive.

Anyone ever see our president on a laptop?

no, nuff said.

The digital divide is real.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:16 AM
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40. you wont have to. he'll still be king. n/t
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:24 AM
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42. The same way we explain...
Slavery, Japanese Internment camps, Indian massacres, etc.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:27 AM
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43. by having them read a history book!!
</sarcasm>
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 03:38 PM
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44. mopaul, That's an easy one. Two words: STOLEN ELECTIONS

SUMMARY OF INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT 2004 WAS STOLEN

There is enough here to keep anyone busy for a while.

They stole two fucking elections!!!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 03:58 PM
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45. "This is what happens when people care more about 'Murkan Eye-DULL'...
...than what's going on with the people who get sent to be lawmakers by the MINORITY. Now shut that fucking video bullshit off and study your Civics school-work!"

That's exactly what I'll tell 'em. Bush happened because people cared more about some fucking Teeeee-Veeeee show than their own lives.

Bread and Circusses....
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