What kind of Idiot says. . . "He's our commander in chief . . .

[AVID]

in a time of war - It is my patriotic duty to support him 100%!"

If I'm in power, and I want to stay in power, a "time of war" is not such a bad thing, right?

Am I loco???

[JHB]

1. A compliant idiot, of course

:argh:

[Occulus]

2. Tell them "That statement is *never* true."

It is never the "patriotic duty" of any American citizen to support the President 100%. Never, never ever.

We are NOT Iraqis under Saddam. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Ask them if they

would support this war if it was Clinton or Kerry.

[WLKjr]

25. then tell them they are not familar with history

and tell them the TR quote about it not being true.

[Sparkly]

3. The same idiots who dissed Clinton constantly for 8 years. n/t

[kittenpants]

4. exactly, but now it's "unAmerican" to question the gov't n/t

[Sparkly]

6. It absolutely isn't.

Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"?

My point is that it's hypocritical to claim "patriotism" in supporting every bad move of BushCo, after attacking every move of Clinton's.

[kittenpants]

15. I understood your point...

I was being sarcastic of course, hence the quotes around "un-American"

[AntiCoup2K4]

5. Was this freeper doing his "patriotic duty" in a uniform?

If so, remind him that it is also his patriotic duty NOT to obey illegal orders.

If not, I hope you told him to shut the fuck up and enlist. Junior apparently needs the help.

[fudge stripe cookays]

7. My 2nd mom.

This lady has been there for me for a good portion of my life; when my dad died, she and her husband had my mom and I over for holidays and such, and made us part of their family.

Dad and her husband were both retired Air Force, and they are very hardcore Catholic. The topic of politics came up last year ebfore the election between she and my mom, and that was almost her exact reply.

I hate the fact that I feel this way, but I haven't been down to visit lately, and feel really angry at her for not being able to discern the evil and menace that has taken over our country. Why did he get us into war in the first place? So gullible people like her would say this exact same thing.

I don't think our relationship will ever be the same. So rather than get mad and flail at her, I've just said nothing. And the nothing has become a long drawn out silence.

FSC

[TimeChaser]

8. "Patriotism means loving your country all the time...

...and loving your government when they deserve it" - Mark Twain

[LiberalFighter]

32. Actually the quote is...

# The modern patriotism, the true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, and loyalty to the government when it deserves it.

The Czar's Soliloquy, 2 Feb 1905


Other Mark Twain quotes...

# Patriotism is usually the refuge of the scoundrel. He is the man who talks the loudest.

14 May 1908

# Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed.

1897

# Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.

<'Consistency' speech, essay>

# Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.

Note to the Young People's Society, Greenpoint Presbyterian Church, 1901

# The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.

Notebook 1898

[NYC Liberal]

9. He isn't anyone's "Commander in Chief" unless you're a soldier

Article II Section 2:

"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,"

[babylonsister]

10. What kind of idiot? Why, half of the voting public! nt

[flordehinojos]

11. No. you are not LOCO. The IDIOT is.

edited to add:

and actually, the government/orpresident/or parent who prevents it citizens or children from thinking and discerning what the citizen or the child will or will not support is the one who is purposely and for his own ends creating THE IDIOT.

So people who say I STAND BY MY PRESIDENT RIGHT OR WRONG IN A TIME OF WAR ... are being used/misused/abused by a president who does not mind and does not care and wants to make idiots out of them, AND THE BUSHES ARE GOOD AT THAT INDUCEMENT OF GUILT WHICH MAKES FOR COMPLIANT IDIOTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, and the parent who does that to a child is abusing that child...AND I BET MY HEAD ON A SILVER PLATTER THAT THE BUSHES HAD THAT DONE TO THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN AS CHILDREN GROWING UP...THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO GOOD AT DOING IT TO US.

[mcscajun]

12. No, You're Not 'loco' -- the idiot is.

I ran across this on another board shortly after the disaster in November.

Here's what the poster said, and my response to him at the time follows.

OP: "Bush is my president...he IS my commander-in-chief and I will tow the line like any good American should."

My Response: "He's your commander-in-chief if you're in the Military, and you certainly have to take his orders, then. For the rest of us, he's the President, that's all.

If you're a civilian, 'towing the line' (sic) is the last thing a 'good American' should be doing, no matter who occupies the Oval Office.

We have a responsibility to hold our government officials answerable to us, not the other way 'round."

I'd repeat this to any idiot who blindly supports the blivet**.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. LOL

"Tow the line"

They really are an ignorant bunch, aren't they? Can't even get their declarations of fascist lust right.

[mcscajun]

19. Yup. And it was telling that Nobody, NOBODY asked me what

part of the phrase I was referring to with the 'sic'.

[petronius]

20. Well obviously,

they thought you were some dumb liberal who didn't know how to spell "sick". :)

[mcscajun]

29. Ha!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[LiberalFighter]

33. Our nation comes first not the president

[SheilaT]

14. Most people don't want to be bothered

to think for themselves.

Note the connection between this sentiment and those who are "religious".

[ET Awful]

16. A lot of people from a certain European country believed that with

all their hearts a few decades back.

[truth2power]

18. Your post made me think

about someone saying, awhile back, that when the allies rolled into Berlin there were still some people standing on the rubble waving their little Nazi flags. <sigh> That's depressing. Doesn't give me much hope that the Murkan sheeple will ever get it.

And, yes, if supporting your "commander in chief is so important during times of war, a clever leader will make sure we're always at war. These people are cunning, as in "a sociopath is cunning."

[tinrobot]

17. Three words for these idiots:

Think for yourself.

[B Calm]

22. The only thing Bush commanded was his drug habit.

[babylonsister]

23. My brothers and a few former friends. Sad, ain't it. nt

[deadparrot]

24. If said Commander-in-Chief was

Clinton or Gore or Kerry, would they have such an easy time supporting him, also?

[Jade Fox]

26. Someone who has a very strong believe in Authority...

and very little trust in their own thinking. People like this believe the
world continues to function only because of respect for lines of authority,
and that if we all followed our conscience, chaos would ensue,.

[leftofthedial]

27. either a total idiot

or a cynical, agenda-driven zealot

[alfredo]

28. This came to mind

There is no beauty in victory. Whoever calls it so delights in slaughter. Whoever delights in slaughter is not fit to rule. -- Book of Tao

[Zorbuddha]

30. The kind of idiot that ignores the wise words of Theodore Roosevelt

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

-Theodore Roosevelt

[AVID]

31. i'll remember that tonight when i see mr "patriotic"