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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:34 PM
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Santorum uses Adolf Hitler analogy for filibuster
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_05_15.php#005715

Said Santorum: What the Democrats are doing is "the equivalent of Adolf Hitler in 1942 saying, 'I'm in Paris. How dare you invade me. How dare you bomb my city? It's mine.' This is no more the rule of the senate than it was the rule of the senate before not to filibuster."

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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:38 PM
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1. Poor analogy
Seems to me this applies more to the Republicans who changed the rules and then say the control of the government is theres.

Forget the Hitler analogy. I was glad that the Star Wars analogy was brought up today. That will influence more people.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:45 PM
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45. Poor Intellect
all of my philosophical objections aside, that man is not the brightest.

Please note - i am feeling generous tonight.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:38 PM
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2. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Thu May-19-05 04:40 PM by xray s
I would fully expect every Democratic Senator to go to the floor immediately and demand an apology from Santorum and Frist for their extremist language on the floor of the Senate and then go on every dip shit talking head political program and scream to the American public that their country has been taken over by extremists.

Oh... and FUCK all that Senate gentleman talk. BULLSHIT! The GLOVES are OFF!!!!

START FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:41 PM
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8. Remember how they went after Byrd when he dared reference
Hitler in reference to how Hitler's group took over legislation?

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:42 PM
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10. I would love to finally see that!
Stop with 'he spoke incorrectly' and call them out for the liars that they are. Imagine what the headlines would be if we compared them to Hitler. 24/7 on all the networks.

This is why the dems have the wimp image, they don't use street language.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:42 PM
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48. You would never get an apology
Edited on Thu May-19-05 10:42 PM by FreedomAngel82
It's more like the other way around. They'll never apologize of course.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:40 PM
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3. Oy
That's a complicated analogy - but i take it it ends up with Democrats beeing hitler-esque?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:45 PM
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15. Heres the deal
Edited on Thu May-19-05 04:49 PM by xray s
Republicans always attribute their own negative traits to their opponents, even though they don't apply to their opponents.

For example, "Kerry was a coward in Vietnam, but George Bush was a brave fighter pilot and hero." The exact opposite is true, but they don't care. they just tell the lie and 40% of the population soaks it up like a sponge.

Now, the Republicans are the ones who are going down the path of the Nazis in the Reichstag, making up the rules to fit their agenda. So what do they call the Democrats, who are trying to stop them? Nazis.

Its so obvious.



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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:40 PM
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4. What the fuck is he blathering on about?
How dare he fucking compare my party to the actions of Adolph Hitler?

Hitler was a fascist, you ass. Those dirty, bleeding-heat lib'ruls were the first whistleblowers on the concentration camps, you fucking loon.

Mark my words, the neoconservatives that populate our government are the most unpatriotic, hateful, spiteful, scariest people in America.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

:mad: :mad:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:44 PM
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14. neocon? santorum isn't a neocon.
neocons will throw that dumb bastard overboard when they're done exploiting his fristian ramblings, he's a useful idiot to them - nothing more.

it does sound like a bit of projection though on his part.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:06 PM
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28. He's a Neo-con whipping boy....he carries their water & spreads their msg'
but like everyone else at the end of the day, he's expendable and they'll toss him aside when they are done using him. That time isn't far away, because the reality is that he doesn't stand a chance for re-election in '06, Pennsylvanians hate him and even the conservatives are a bit tired of him there too.

You have to admit he has a lot of nerve to make such a comparison (when in fact its a better description of the Bush administration and GOP actions going on)....
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:40 PM
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5. The Hitler analogy applies to
groups that abuse power or advocate the abuse of power. Democrats have no power to abuse right now. They are just trying to hold on to a right that has always belonged to the powerless.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:41 PM
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6. So Santorum is calling FRIST a Nazi, then???
Amazing.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:41 PM
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7. Excellent! So now we are permitted to make Nazi comparisons?
Bring it on, as was once said.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:42 PM
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9. Hey Ricky..... Go fuck a dog, you asshole!
Or if you can't find a dog who won't reject you, ask Horsely to set you up with a mule, you piece of fascist fucking shit. :grr:
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:10 PM
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46. Now you're advocating cruelty to animals?
Forshame
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:42 PM
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11. And the Nazis were soooo tolerant of 'minority' party opinions in
government...
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:42 PM
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12. that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, however it does show just
how brazen they are. Fascists using a Hitler analogy...

excuse me while I:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:44 PM
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13. I sent letter to ADL
I suggest everyone does the same ASAP. Also, to his office.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:53 PM
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20. By email? By form? How? nt
nt
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:55 PM
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23. You can use online form or email, up to you n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:05 PM
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27. Do you want us to
email: webmaster@adl.org

The form is for personal anti-semitic incidents.

Which did you use?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:07 PM
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30. Here you go...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:37 PM
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37. They say the form is if
* you are the victim of anti-Semitic harassment or vandalism
(see definitions below)
* you have personal knowledge of anti-Semitic harassment or vandalism


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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:03 PM
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42. through verbal or institutional ...
just fill it out or email them
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:45 PM
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16. Everyone who sends a letter, say so here... I want to know how
Many people responded to this fucking attack on Jews from the nutcase who let's his kids play with dead babies.
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lilymercury Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:53 PM
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21. Dead babies?
What? Never heard about this, can you explain further please?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:57 PM
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24. Really crazy story, but true...
His wife gave birth to a still born child(it was early I think). Normal people would/should bury their child. Well, not the Santorums. They thought it would be nice for their other kids to get a chance to play with their dead sibling.

Sick, sick family.
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lilymercury Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:09 PM
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32. And they talk about respect for life?!?!!
What about respect for the dead? Surprised they didn't have a party for the poor dead baby.
This is so sick I can barely imagine such a thing.:grr: :nuke: :puke:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:00 PM
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26. Ricky's wife had a miscarriage a few years ago
And they insisted on taking the dead fetus home to show their living children, just to make sure they would know that fetuses are babies and that they shouldn't believe "librul baby killers".

I don't remember how old his kids were at the time, but it sounds like child abuse to me.
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lilymercury Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:06 PM
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29. OMG!!!
sick fucks.

Thanks for info.

I :puke: when I think of pig scum santorum.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:12 PM
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33. That...that is sick....I can't even imagine someone doing that & actually
justifying it as being a good thing....

Can you imagine - Most people in life have never seen a dead body until they either have the horrible misfortune of being in an accident or witnessing one or attending an open casket funeral of their grandparent or parent.

To think that Santorum's young children saw the dead limp corpse of thei stillborn sibling and that the parent's brought the corpse home for the children to hold and "get to know"....

Sick....absolutely effing sick....these children won't benefit from this interaction, they will suffer psychologically, especially if they weren't equipped with the ability to process and understand "death"...if anything, they might wonder why the "sleeping baby" didn't wake and was taken away....or why it stunk so bad and was blue...

that is just the sickest thing I can imagine someone doing to their dead child and to their living children....
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:55 PM
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41. If anyone calls or emails, include this quote from SANTORUM HIMSELF
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/newssummary/s_309392.html

SNIP

Santorum, the Senate's No. 3 Republican, called for Byrd to retract his statement.


"Senator Byrd's inappropriate remarks comparing his Republican colleagues with Nazis are inexcusable," Santorum said in a statement yesterday. "These comments lessen the credibility of the senator and the decorum of the Senate. He should retract his statement and ask for pardon."

(((Please use the quote above in your protest!!!)))
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:47 PM
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17. well, well...
How interesting that Ricky uses the Hitler reference, when his party is attempting to create an American Reichstag fire.

It's telling that he does this, since the Republicans always blame others for the things they're the most guilty of.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:50 PM
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19. 911 was the Reichsstag fire
And we are swiftly heading to Krystalnacht.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:07 PM
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31. oh boy n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:50 PM
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18. I had to mute the mother fucker........
Is John McCain gonna talk on the Senate floor? Susan Collins, Olympia Snow, Chuck Hagel,
Lincoln Chaffe or Lisa Murkoski? Haven't seen them talk yet about the filibuster.

I hope everyone has called their senator to protest the filibuster. I had to call John Cornyn & Kay Baily Hutchinson, Yuck!
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:54 PM
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22. These assholes Frist and Santorum have given the Democrats a gift
They have exposed themselves as extremists on the floor of the Senate. Will the Democrats pick up the ball and run with it. Will they finally realize these pigs are not their "colleagues" or "dear friends" but fascist trying to destroy our democracy?

WILL THEY STAND UP AND FIGHT??????

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:57 PM
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ADL, non-stop... NON stop
And his office, and our reps offices... this remark needs to get him back into the backwoods where he belongs.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:06 PM
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50. Just got email from ADL
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:57 PM
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25. Here's a more apt Hitler analogy
Like Hitler, * is using the elected bodies of government to make him omnipotent, just like the Fuhrer. And use the courts to make him Chancellor for Life.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:16 PM
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34. It's the projection, again.
Repugs can't help but project their own evil onto democrats. That's why they claimed Kerry got out of Vietname, Kerry was the war criminal, Dems will do anything for power, Dems are trying to steal elections, and Dems are like Hitler.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:21 PM
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35. Bad-mouthing a fellow Catholic like Hitler; has he no shame?
His speech was shrillness defined. The hatred and ugliness was as thick as the distortion.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:23 PM
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36. Trying too heard with the analogy. Sick of idiots like this. nt
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:45 PM
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38. Can you say, "MoveOn"?
Anybody remember the MoveOn ad contest? Remember the ad comparing the Fierce Warrior Chieftain to Hitler?

Remember how we had to hear about that 9.7 billion times during the 2004 campaign? Remember how evil it was, how inappropriate, how nasty, how unamerican?

Every time I think they've been as hypocritical as is possible, they prove me wrong.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:48 PM
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39. Yes, Rick, it's EXACTLY equivalent.
My moral compass is spinning.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:51 PM
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40. Hey Santorum
You're a farging idjit.

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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:32 PM
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43. Santorum = Piss Ant Loser
Enough said.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:35 PM
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44. There memories are as short as their pee-pees...
These RetHUGlicans, guess they forget all the nominees of Clinton's that they stalled, froze, sat on or otherwise killed....

I heard a sound-byte from Santo-rectum on the radio today. Boy sounded like he had been frothing at the mouth....
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:40 PM
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47. Hey Rick...what if Hitler's Enabling Act had been filibustered?
Or better yet, what if minorities had filibustered everything that contributed to Hitler's rise to dictatorial power and he had thus remained a footnote in the history books?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:32 AM
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49. outrageous!!!!!
:kick:
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