19 days left before war with Iran

[norml]

Thursday 19th May 2005 (06h56) :
19 days left before war with Iran
Are we going to stand idly by as more sovereign countries are attacked? This farce has nothing to do with getting rid of nuclear weapons in the Middle East or else the US would shut down the billions of dollars of aid that Israel receives. Money that is funneled into its massive chemical, biological and nuclear arsenal, which is turning Israel into a dominant superpower. Their military & political might remains unchecked. They are in firm control of the world’s remaining superpower, the United States, and it’s massive military force. Ariel Sharon is ordering the United States around like a drunken man abusing his wife. And like a typical abused wife, the United States refuses to acknowledge it. The transparency of the situation is obvious, how long are we going to let it continue?
Mr. Sharon and company may be biting off a bit more than they can chew if he attacks Iran though. Russia and Iran have a mutual defense agreement and it has been reported that Russia has SS-N-22 "Sunburn" missiles stationed in Iran that could turn Tel Aviv into glass should they attack.

Recently there have been large troop redeployments (see articles below) out of Iraq in preparation of an attack on Iran. Stateside nurses are being sent to ’field hospitals’ too. Look for the attack to happen around June 6, 2005.

The reason Mossad has been killing off the microbiologist scientists could be that they are planning a false flag operation to wage a biological attack on the United States after Iran is attacked (most likely by Israel initially). They don’t want anyone around that would be smart enough to see through their plan and trace the strains back to Israel. They did the same thing after Mossad attacked the WTC on 9/11 when the zionist Dr. Philip Zack sent Anthrax letters. This would increase hatred of Iran and justify the upcoming draft and all out war to increase Israel’s borders. Written Feb.6, 2005




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http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6095

[alittlelark]

1. How many microbiologists are left (at least the REALLY smart ones)?

The DEAD microbiologist issue has left me with a sick feeling in my stomache.

[rooboy]

2. I didn't know that Zack was a Zionist.

but if he is, I must admit that piece of information might tip me into the camp that believes right wing Israelis did have a role in 9/11. Yikes.

[cliss]

3. I'm not convinced that we're going to attack.

Yes, we're building up troops. Probably to try to pacify Iraq, because it's spinning out of control.

Yes, I believe Bush lusts after Iran. I'm sure he lays in his bed at night, looking up at the ceiling, thinking about his PRIZE. He wants it and all the oil that's under the hot Iranian sands.

I just don't think he's able to do it. I recall reading an interview of the Swedish foreign minister (who was killed in a knife attack in Stockholm). Someone asked her about the war in Iraq and what the Swedes might expect in the future. She had answered, "The US envoy told us they were only going to invade one country (Iraq). He gave us a promise.

If they do invade Iran, I would be absolutely astonished. The world is going to intervene on this madman. Putin, China, India, Europe, all are probably trying behind the scenes to prevent this.

[norml]

4. U.S. Hopes for Changed Policies by Iran, Better Relations with It

U.S. Hopes for Changed Policies by Iran, Better Relations with It
State's Burns says Iran moving against tide of global events



The United States hopes for better relations with Iran, but the onus is on the government in Tehran to change its policies on human rights, weapons of mass destruction and attempts to destabilize the region, says Nicholas Burns, under secretary of state for political affairs.

"In each of these three areas, Iran has a demonstrated track record of moving backwards against the tide of world events," Burns said in prepared testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee May 19.

Burns stressed that the U.S. concerns are with the Iranian government, not the Iranian people, and the United States is proud of its Iranian immigrant community.

"...nly a generation ago, 200,000 Iranians were studying in the U.S. The United States is proud to be home to a large community of extremely talented Iranian immigrants who preserve a cultural and personal bridge to Iran where diplomatic contact long ago broke off," Burns said.




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http://usinfo.state.gov/usinfo/Archive/2005/May/19-702508.html

[peacetalksforall]

6. Yes, please...world citizens...we need you to save Iran and U.S.

citizens. Please come up with a solution.

"They' want all for Israel-Sharon - All for U.S.-cabal/PNAC/Fed Soc/banking/military/corporations/religious excessives.

God help the world help us all.

Scandinavia...do something. Mediterranean countries - do something. Asia...do something. America's and the Bahamas/Carib/Mexico...do something. Prevent this war.

To the Iranian people...may we bless each other.

[norml]

7. EXCLUSIVE - Rafsanjani urges U.S. to begin thaw in ties

EXCLUSIVE - Rafsanjani urges U.S. to begin thaw in ties
Thu May 19, 2005 10:07 PM ET

By Paul Holmes and Barry Moody

TEHRAN (Reuters) - The man thought most likely to be Iran's next president said on Thursday he wanted to repair relations with the United States, but Washington had to take the first steps to end 25 years of enmity.

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in his first interview since declaring his bid for an unprecedented third term as president, also said he would never abandon the country's nuclear programme, comparing such a step to ceding Iranian land.

"It is like giving away part of our territory," Rafsanjani told Reuters. "This is our nation's legitimate right ... especially when it is in accordance with international laws and regulations."

Rafsanjani, 70, served two terms as president from 1989 to 1997 and announced last week he would run in a June 17 election. Opinion polls put him well ahead of other candidates.




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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?storyID=8541567&type=worldNews

[peacetalksforall]

21. He and the Syrian leader must speak to the world and not pull a

Saddam - pretending that he had every kind of aresenal and threatening to use them. The Syrian leader especially, must speak to the people of the world.

There cannot be any stupid American empathy for taking down Iran and Syria for oil, water, Israel, England, and corporations like there has been.

A common need in all people of the world is to live in peace. Resist war mongers. We don't have to live under perpetual war. Our country does not have to dominate the world. We will end up dominating death and unbelievable paing by cancer, drought, and poison.

[FreedomAngel82]

5. Also it appears

they're starting to make Iran look like they're not corporating etc. so they can find some excuse to attack them (when I bet you there isn't anything). Here's the article that was in LBN.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usinfo/Archive/2005/May/19-702508.html

[BurtWorm]

8. Is Scott Ritter the origin of this idea

that the US is going to attack Iran in June? I am really having a difficult time buying it. I don't see how the US has the capacity to do it.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. I wonder too

How are they? I've heard it argued they'll do it with air space. Does anybody know about it?

[BurtWorm]

10. This sounds like an urban legend to me.

They may be stupid and arrogant, but they have nothing to wage this war with.

I've heard some people saying Israel will be doing it by proxy. WHy?! Why would Israel, which has enough shit to deal with trying to keep Palestine from becoming a viable nation, pull off an unprovoked attack on Iran, which is in a much stronger postion than Iraq ever was?

I just don't believe this is going to happen. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make a bit of sense if we're talking about the real world.

[norml]

11. But we're not talking about people in touch with the real world.

They are not part of the reality based community.

[rfrrfrrfr]

12. Lets be clear here

First the plans to launch an air attack similar to the shock and awe air attacks at the begginning of the Iraq war ARE in place and ready to go. They were prepared and approved last fall, and are just waiting for the go order.


Now according to Mr. Ritter these plans do exist and says he has seen at least parts of them himself. He has called Condi a liar for going around saying there are no plans in place when they most certainly are.

Basically once Iran gets the Uranium in June Bush will go to the UN to get sanctions put in place, which is part of the reason why the Bolton nomination is important, Russia and a couple other countries have already said they are opposed to sanctions and would veto any such move.

At that point Bush can either back down on his demands or take unilateral action.

Which do you think he will do?

[Disturbed]

13. The Bush Junta is insane so ....

they may just give Israel the green light. I feel that this would mean a whole lot of dead Israelis and U.S. troops in Iraq. There is a real possibility that the U.S. could lose a war with Iran and Syria if Russia and China backed those two countries with actual troops on the ground fighting U.S. troops. A war like that could lead to WW4.

[BurtWorm]

19. Where is there more information about this?

I'd like to read it myself.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

17. Even Scott Ritter says that what he said was taken out of context

And that the emphasis was placed on the wrong things.

In an interview with rawstory he goes on to explain;

"Ritter: No, what is happening is that in June, the U.S. will walk away from Europe with regard to their outreach in Iran. If the situation is not resolved by June, the US will shift its policy and methodology. Now this is not speculation on my part. This has been stated. Then will seek to impose robust sanctions against Iran.

Raw Story: The UN has to approve those sanctions still.

Ritter: Right. Only the UN Security Council can apply those sanctions and the Russians and the French have already said we are not game, we are not playing.

When we confront the Russians with our desire to impose sanctions and the Russians must know there is something else outside of sanctions; so when they are saying no, they know they are opening the door to something else. That something else is a military bombardment. In that event, the U.S. has to be prepared; the Pentagon has been tasked with being prepared to launch a massive military bombardment by June of 2005. October of 2004 was a status report on those preparations."
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=170


Now in my humble opinion, with everything that's going wrong with Iraq and the current climate in Afghanistan, that's a pretty large task for the Pentagon to have completed. However, if bush is going to talk the talk he likes to think he can walk the walk. In other words, he's a nut-case and it's hard to apply logic to him.

Time will tell but it won't be on June 1st. We will see more cries over the next month of how vile and corrupt Iran is and how they must not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. They are going to try and turn up the heat, but what the final outcome of that will be is still unclear. You can't get blood from a turnip and you can't wage war without troops.

[BurtWorm]

20. Thank you, Lone Star.

That was a very helpful post. :toast:

[Melynn]

14. Attack on June 6th?

Could be. That's the D-Day anniversary. What better way to whip the sheep in to a patriotic furor then to attack on the same date as D-Day. You can almost hear the sheep say, "Now we have our own D-Day" or something similar. Plus these people are big on strange dates, 9/11, 3/11 etc.

[Initech]

15. Eh, it's only 6 more days until we turn into a theocracy

I mean, the filibuster vote is in six days, right?

Then, after the filibuster, the countdown to the Iran invasion begins!

[hang a left]

16. No disrespect intended....

But I don't think it was the Mossad that attacked the twin towers. They probably had foreknowlege, but I am thinking it is more likely the work of rogue elements in the CIA and DOD. Also I think the particular anthrax strain that is mentioned has been identified as a US weaponized anthrax that probably came from Fort Dietrick. I am not sure about the mysterious microbiologist deaths, but obviously there are weird goings on there that involve some kind of conspiracy, who knows who is behind that.

I am pretty sure we will get tangled up in Iran. It's all there in the PNAC manifesto. Who knows if it will be Israel that starts it or the US but I can't imagine someone knowing the exact date and publishing it on the web.

Anyway I could be wrong, I always am. I was hoping to have one more summer before martial law is imposed.

[nolabels]

18. Surfs up baby

:woohoo:

[Toots]

22. Israel tells Bush* "We did it before and we can do it again"

Referring to when they attacked the Nuclear Reactors in Iraq. Iran is a horse of a different color. Iraq was Secular, Iran is not. Religion will play a huge part in this next battle and the US is not on God's side in it.

[norml]

23. Iran Policy Committee: Pentagon mouthpiece, Israeli ally, MEK supporter

Iran Policy Committee: Pentagon mouthpiece, Israeli ally, MEK supporter

By John Stanton
Online Journal Contributing Writer

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May 21, 2005—The Iran Policy Committee (IPC) has a website up and running at iranpolicycommittee.org.*

The IPC made the news in February when it released a report titled "US Options for Iran." In that report, the IPC recommended that a terrorist group known as the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) be removed from the US government's hit list. The authors of the IPC report equate the terrorist MEK with the African National Congress that fought long and hard against the despicable all-white South African regime and its US supporters so many years ago. Of course, the implication here is that the MEK will somehow produce a Nelson Mandela, or at least is on the same playing field as Mandela's group was.

Those two wacky thoughts should be enough to dismiss the 11 IPC principals, their mission and their clumsy report as nonsense. But inside the Washington Beltway, it's never wise to dismiss ignorance until performing background checks on the individuals and their affiliations. The record shows that the IPC operates in very close proximity to the US intelligence community, has the support of 150 members in the US Congress, and is linked to individuals/groups who successfully lied and led the US into another Vietnam-like war, and whose primary purpose is the creation of a US empire that controls the world's resources and protects a greater Israel. Crazy is selling these days and the loonies are in charge.

The IPC is supported by the neocon all-stars that we've come to know and love such as Douglas Feith, Frank Gaffney, Michael Leeden, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice, et al. But these frontbenchers are running out of political muscle as their war in Iraq continues to drain the resources of the American people on political, economic and military fronts. What's worse, perhaps, is their "with us or against us" mentality has caused new political and economic alliances to form (example: South America-China-Iran) and has accelerated both conventional and nuclear arms races. Having failed on so many fronts, they recognize that to get the US into Iran, some new faces are needed and that's where the IPC backbenchers are critical to the forthcoming anti-Iranian/Persian propaganda operations.

The IPC is linked through its purpose and people to the Coalition for a Democratic Iran and the MEK, the Washington PAC, JINSA, AIPAC, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, the Department of Defense (DoD), the Center for Security Policy, and all the major US intelligence agencies. IPC members are primarily defense and security contractors/consultants and would benefit financially from a war with Iran.




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http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052105Stanton/052105stanton.html