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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:49 AM
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Christians look to form new nation' within U.S.
Oh my this is a good one, they want SC.

Here is the link...
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38571

I say let them have it, the more that go there the more of the real Christians, and those that are not can roam freely.

WOW!
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:52 AM
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1. The article is a year old.
Too, I think normal South Carolinians would have something to say about another secession.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:53 AM
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I agree...
I support the idea, I love Charlston, Gay Haven, it will be missed...

I want to give them a square state in the middle, or better yet, we could send them all to Iraq, they can fight for some soil...
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:58 AM
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7. You support the idea of a state's cecession?
Just checking. Is that what you're saying?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:59 AM
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8. If it leaves, we can invade it.
:evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:04 AM
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21. I don't think they should cecede. I think they can be expelled, though
Can't we give them Alaska?

Or maybe the area of Nevada centered around Yucca Mountain or Trinity National Park.

If I remember correctly, the White Supremecists wanted Oregon or Washington State.

We could give Mt. St. Helens to them, too.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:46 PM
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33. why not 'liberate' them?...
.... like Iraq ?... and the 'rest of the world'?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:52 AM
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2. Nah, let them have Florida.
It's easier to build a wall and keep them out that way.
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MSchreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:53 AM
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3. South Carolina: "Too small for a republic,...
Too big for an insane asylum."

Wait a minute....

Martin
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:53 AM
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4. Indeed- let them do it- as long as they maintain their 'independence'
and stay out of federal matters. If they want their own Christo-fascist nation-state, let 'em do it.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:54 AM
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5. On the subject of secession, one long-ago politician said:
Edited on Fri May-20-05 09:56 AM by Old Crusoe
"South Carolina is too small to be a nation and too large to be a mental asylum."

Though not the majority, there are some damned liberal folks in South Carolina, and I hope they prevail against any fundie invasion.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:05 AM
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22. They'd be welcome to emigrate out of Jesusland and into America
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:06 AM by IanDB1
Or maybe they could establish an independent Liberal City-State within South Carolina.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:05 PM
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39. Hi, Ian. I was trying to show some support for the non-Bushies --
-- in SC and other places where they're outnumbered. When I spend time in Berkeley and San Francisco, it's easier being a progressive. It would probably be all uphill in other places.

Seeing your Barbara Boxer avatar reminds me of what a terrific public servant she has been here lately. She's been a favorite of mine for a long, long time.

Long live Senator Boxer.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:58 AM
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6. I think it's a great idea.
All the fundie wack jobs can move to SC (and I suppose all the normal people will want to go somewhere else). They can secede and have their own country where church attendance is mandatory; abortions, atheism, non-Christian religions and homosexuality are illegal; women don't have jobs outside the home and are legally obligated to obey their husbands; the Ten Commandments and a statue of Jesus are installed in every courthouse; no TV other than Faux News is allowed; all sex is illegal unless with a spouse, missionary position only, and all parties but the Republican Party are outlawed. They can even call it "America," since technically there is no such country. Buh-bye. Don't let the door slap you in the ass...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:00 AM
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9. They hate America. n/t
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:04 AM
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10. Longer drive...
It would make the drive to Florida a little longer...

I would have some questions?

Would you need a passport?
Do they check your penis, and if you are unclean you are barred?
Can we go to their nation, and knock on their door, and teach them about a life without Jesus?

Give them Kansas, they are almost there...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:17 AM
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11. The Republic of Gilead. nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:18 AM
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12. Wait until Bush and Cheney are visiting Fort Sumpter.
:evilgrin:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:24 AM
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13. Give'm Texas! They'll even get the western White House. n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:59 AM
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19. 2,832,000 Kerry voters live in Texas.
Yeah. That'll work. :eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:03 AM
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20. No, let them move to Texas and then give it back to Mexico.
The Kerry voters can move to the states all the new Texas residents left behind, making more blue states. Everybody wins.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:10 AM
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23. Yeah, Texas WAS 'its own country'...
for almost 10 years anyhow-

here's thier "Declaration of Independence"-
interesting reading

<http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/treasures/republic/declaration.html>

and not a bad idea-

(except for the poor folks who happen to be enlightened enough to not support the religious zealots)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:32 PM
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28. A couple of interesting points in that declaration.

It cites government support of religion and the lack of public education as two of the items justifying their right to replace the government by military means.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:43 PM
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31. noticed...
...that as well- funny how down becomes up, and right becomes left isn't it?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:27 AM
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14. there is no end to the absurdity of the religiously insane
We need to get the influence of fundyism out of our species.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:27 AM
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15. i knew it was sc, let it grow. sorry dudes that live in that state
i would give up texas if they all wanted to live here and leave the rest of us alone. i would willingly relocate for the good of fellow man
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:31 AM
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16. Maybe we could do a house swap...
They post the house they are in, and people in the "New Holy Land" can pick a house, reguardless of there own home, and spap.

"I will take your 5 bedroom, 4 bath house, you can have by trailer, it has a porch"

If they are really good God Fearing Chrs they will take it, because wealth is like kriptonite to getting into heaven.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:36 AM
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17. Appropriate choice: Ft. Sumter, South Carolina, 1861. NT
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:51 AM
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18. I just picked up an old paperback copy of Tofler's "Future Shock" ...
... at a garage sale the other day and was leafing through it. One of the things I noticed was that Tofler said we will one day have various areas/enclaves where like-minded people will live. It's strange, but the first two groups that came to mind as benefiting from having their own territories were gays and lesbians and the "fun-D'uh-Mental-ists."
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:11 AM
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24. Give 'em a WHOLE state?!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:14 AM by youthere
Nah..I say we build a big raft and.....





edit for typo
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:17 PM
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25. note to those who think this is a good idea:
FUCK OFF!

I happen to like the house where I live, short of a Power Ball hit it will probably be my last house. You would wish this upon me, nice...

In case you didn't notice 41% of the '04 vote in SC went to Kerry, hardly a winner but a lot of folks nonetheless. And you would shit on us all. You are selfish twits who wish to dump your garbage in your neighbors yard because there's already a pile there. How about taking care of your own garbage?

Why does this damn thing pop up every few months?
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:23 PM
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26. They would have the same problems they thought they were leaving behind
Bet their teen pregnancy rate,drug use,drop out rate,suicide rate,divorce rate,would show that they arent any better at running things than a secular government.Then they would be without enough money to solve their problems because they wouldnt have the federal goverment to run to for help in bailing their sanctimonious asses out.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:32 PM
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29. It would be better to let them have a big island somewhere
that is currently uninhabited. I don't think anybody intended to slam SC in particular, but merely to consider the possibility of letting these nutjobs have their own territory, preferably far away, where they could go and have their own nasty little theocracy, and not bother the rest of us.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:25 PM
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27. My sister and her husband are there!
Both are good, active liberals and their friends are too. I sent her this article last year and they just laughed. According to her there are people moving into her area of SC by the droves and they're mostly from up north and they're mostly Dems!! She's guessing they are probably counter-acting any that move there for the theocracy motive.
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:38 PM
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30. God, that's funny!
Quote:
<snip>
The plan initially calls for at least 12,000 Christians willing to be active in political campaigns to move to the Palmetto State.

"We're not an invading force, we're reinforcements," Burnell tells WorldNetDaily, saying it would be a waste to move to liberal-minded states such as Massachusetts, New York or California where conservative votes would be diluted.

<snip>

Well, they can export all they want from here in Texas. Don't let the door hit ya on your way out!

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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:45 PM
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32. Ha! this won't work
They think they can will the kind of migration that, in the 60s and 70s turned California progressive. The problem is they need us to pass actual laws against Christian customs if they want to get
Christians the way we got hippies and gays--in flight from oppression.

Otherwise they have to offer these people something, I mean cash or in kind payment to participate in this project, and I doubt many of these secessionists Christians are willing to put their money where their mouths are... unless that happens to be a hooker's crotch.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:46 PM
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34. I would recommend somewhere in Middle America like Kansas.
When Yellowstone blows, the whole of Middle of America will be blown up or covered with volcanic ash because of it. Then they will have their rapture. Good riddance.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:05 PM
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35. They can have North Dakota
It's bascially there's already, and I'm outta her as soon as the kids finish school (if there's still somebody dumb enough to buy my house).

Wait, it's N.D. There's be a lot of people dumb enough to work for 70% of wages at 90% of the cost of living, in this climate, and complain about the government handhouts without which it would be the one big National Grassland.

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:09 PM
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36. Lets give them a leaky boat and foot in the ass!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:10 PM by Sentinel Chicken
Goodbye and don't come back! :hi:
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:54 PM
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37. They can all it: The Holy Moran Empire`n/t
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:58 PM
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38. Excellent, they can have 4
Since they make up 9% of the US, they can pick 4 states, any states, as long as they promise to declare independance right away and get the hell out of OUR country.
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