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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:25 AM
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Bombs in Iraq being set off by US Soldiers or US puppets??
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

But back to the explosions. One of the larger blasts was in an area called Ma'moun, which is a middle class area located in west Baghdad. It’s a relatively calm residential area with shops that provide the basics and a bit more. It happened in the morning, as the shops were opening up for their daily business and it occurred right in front of a butchers shop. Immediately after, we heard that a man living in a house in front of the blast site was hauled off by the Americans because it was said that after the bomb went off, he sniped an Iraqi National Guardsman.

I didn’t think much about the story- nothing about it stood out: an explosion and a sniper- hardly an anomaly. The interesting news started circulating a couple of days later. People from the area claim that the man was taken away not because he shot anyone, but because he knew too much about the bomb. Rumor has it that he saw an American patrol passing through the area and pausing at the bomb site minutes before the explosion. Soon after they drove away, the bomb went off and chaos ensued. He ran out of his house screaming to the neighbors and bystanders that the Americans had either planted the bomb or seen the bomb and done nothing about it. He was promptly taken away.

The bombs are mysterious. Some of them explode in the midst of National Guard and near American troops or Iraqi Police and others explode near mosques, churches, and shops or in the middle of sougs. One thing that surprises us about the news reports of these bombs is that they are inevitably linked to suicide bombers. The reality is that some of these bombs are not suicide bombs- they are car bombs that are either being remotely detonated or maybe time bombs. All we know is that the techniques differ and apparently so do the intentions. Some will tell you they are resistance. Some say Chalabi and his thugs are responsible for a number of them. Others blame Iran and the SCIRI militia Badir.



Now, I don't doubt there are some Negroponte-style mercenaries, rogue soldiers, or even out-and-out orders from our own military to stage some bombings, I can't see how it would really benefit us to instigate a civil war.

Or, and I'm going way out on the conspiracy-theory limb, is a ploy to instigate a civil war a reason to get MORE troops into Iraq to finally secure it the way it needs to be yet still save face for the Propagandist?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:28 AM
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1. An awful lot of suicide bombings tend to discount that theory
but there could be both.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:28 AM
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2. A simpler answer is
That they aer done to kill targets in a clumsy stupid way. Why we would be doing this is kind of senseless, but much of this war is sensless.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:29 AM
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3. Not that far of a stretch
It's been done before.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:29 AM
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4. Not far off
Obviously from the Saudi prince visiting not long ago Bushie is having some kind of trouble getting the oil there so he had to beg the Saudi prince for some help with the oil. You're probably not very far off with your theory.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:30 AM
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5. I read that yesterday
and I don't believe it. Sorry, but I don't. I believe soldiers get jumpy or just don't care (a few) and shoot indiscriminately but set up bombs to kill indiscriminately? No, the whole platoon or whatever would have to be ok with it and how do they know it won't kill other American soldiers? Nope, I believe it is being remotely detonated by someone trying to kill both civilians and American troops. Not because I believe everything the Bush administration tells me, but because it doesn't make any sense the other way.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:35 AM
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8. That would of course not be
ordinary soldiers doing that kind of work, but Rusmfeld's newly established P2OG. Leaked documents from the Pentagon reveal that its purpose, among other thing, is to provoke reactions from "terrorist groups" proactively by staging incidents etc. I don't know if Riverbend is right here, but God knows what these P2OG people are up to.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:38 AM
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10. Or Blackwater types?
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:25 PM
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11. That's another possibility
It's not private Joe from Idaho in any case.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:31 AM
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6. Conspiracy-theory limb? Hardly.
Wouldn't surprise me, in the least, if *Co is behind a lot of this.

They thrive and profit from the chaos.


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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:32 AM
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7. To put it this way:
Do you think the neo-cons want a strong, stable, Shia-dominated Iraq aligned with Iran? Don't they also need a pretext to maintain the military presence in the country for many years to come? They have built 14 permanent bases after all. They didn't do that just to leave in 2006.

That being said , who knows s she is right in her speculations. I do agree on this: I don't think all the "suicide bombers" are really suicide bombers. The military spins it that way to paint the insurgents as religious fanatics.
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:37 AM
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9. "Bombs in Iraq being set off by US Soldiers or US puppets??"
I always thought this might be the case. If the US Government helps instigate the "uprisings", they assure themselves a continued stay, and a longer time to exploit the oil. I've thought the same thing about the kidnappings as well.

They do not want to have Democracy work, because their job would be complete.

Heres another thought: would Bush chance sacrificing his own wife to up his poll numbers?
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:36 PM
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12. They certainly have the motivation...
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:38 PM by kiki
...we all know Bushco wants "eternal war", and if the other side won't play along, well... check the Operation Northwoods documents for a taste of their MO.

Does anyone seriously think they want peace in Iraq?
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