UdoKier
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Fri May-20-05 02:28 PM
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RW'ers' reluctance to believe in BFEE involvement in 9/11 |
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I can understand the reluctance to believe in BFEE involvement in 9/11, whether LIHOP or MIHOP, but one thing does confuse me about right-wingers. Why are they so 100% sure that Bush & Co "would never do such a thing"? I mean, in spite of all the obvious lies they have been told, all the shady Saudi connections, and all the strange "coincidences" surrounding 9-11, and the lack of definitive proof that OBL actually did orchestrate the thing, they have this ROCK-Solid faith that Bush is as pure as the driven snow.
They know he lies often, has used drugs, and violated his own religion's tenets by attacking and looting a defenseless country based on made-up reasons, but they trust him implicitly.
Now me, I'm a democrat. I have the HIGHEST admiration for FDR. Unlike Bush, he was a man of the highest caliber. But I am at least ABLE to consider the POSSIBILITY that FDR somehow knew a Japanese attack was coming and let it happen because he wanted an excuse to get into WW2. I'm not sure it's a fact, but it's possible - a disappointing prospect but not enough to diminish FDR's legacy, IMO.
So why the absolute, unwavering faith in the lying, murdering POS Bush?
Is it a cult of personality thing?
Is it because they think nobody could every call themselves a "Christian" and be lying?
Is it that they are all as corrupt and dishonest as Bush is, and they are just lying too?
It never fails to blow my mind how a scenario as UTTERLY PLAUSIBLE as BFEE LIHOP seems like sheer flights of fancy to these people.
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Fri May-20-05 02:33 PM
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1. Probably more along the lines of... |
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the amount of people involved in order to keep it covered up would be huge.
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Fri May-20-05 04:09 PM
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14. Well,if the military and Air Force in particular are having an infestation |
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of Christian Fundamentalist indoctrination, and with all the nut-bag Fundies running around, why would you find it difficult to find that they have packed the military and government with their cult members?
Our government is INFESTED with these born-agains who will do ANYTHING for what they have fantasized is the right thing in God's eyes.
If they are seriously planning to take over the country and believe that is their God-given mission, 9-11 would be the greatest thing they could do to make their fantasy come true.
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Fri May-20-05 05:03 PM
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17. Because there are plenty in the FBI, CIA, FAA, Pentagon, etc. that aren't. |
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Fri May-20-05 02:33 PM
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2. People only believe what is in their scope of perception |
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And can't go beyond that. The same applies to you and me as well. If you have the perception that Bush is a good president and that terrorists committed 9/11 then an evidence even if it is perfect will be dismissed as incorrect.
The reason the people here can find stories plausible is because we believe that Bush and his people are able and capable of committing atrocities and therefore we take the story serious and then form a conclusion based on the story. However if you don't believe that a person is able and capable of doing such a thing, the story would be dismissed immediately as false.
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Fri May-20-05 02:39 PM
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4. Excellent point! Perception is reality when you don't ask questions. |
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Edited on Fri May-20-05 02:40 PM by libertypirate
These people don't ask questions, so they are not seeking answers. The talk show hosts are the ones asking the questions and not the people.
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Fri May-20-05 04:05 PM
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13. Yet the question remains: WHY do they think these guys are incapable? |
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I don't remember anyone defending Clinton on those lines -- no one said, "No WAY would he kill Vince Foster!" Instead it was, Well, prove it.
I question even the presidents I like. These guys refuse to question Bush at all. I wonder why?
Why do they think he's such a great guy, even though there's NO evidence that he's a great guy?
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Fri May-20-05 02:35 PM
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Fri May-20-05 03:01 PM
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5. It's the way America plays... |
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Remember the Carolina! Remember the Alamo! Remember the Lusitania! Remember Pearl Harbour! Remember the Gulf of Tonkin! Remember the Twin Towers!
It's so freakin' OBVIOUS that I must admit that I now consider RW Americans to be absolute morans...
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Fri May-20-05 03:06 PM
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6. It really has nothing to do with Bush* |
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It is all about the Party. It has become a monster with a life of it's own. The Party right or wrong it is the Brand I ride for and I will fight for it. It never even crosses their mind that by backing the Party they are going against their country in so many ways. They always put Party before Country..
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Fri May-20-05 03:17 PM
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9. "the Brand I ride for and I will fight for"... |
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Interesting that you use the term "brand" when you think of all the Corpratization that the GOp has done in the past 5 years...
I'm still amazed how they've managed to usurp the flag and Jesus as their logos...
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Fri May-20-05 03:08 PM
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7. It's not just republicans.... |
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Lots of democrats and liberals don't believe he could "do such a thing."
Me, I lean towards MIHOP, but I know many a liberal who wouldn't even consider that as a possibility.
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Fri May-20-05 03:19 PM
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10. I have found the opposite to be true... |
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The more Liberals I have talked to as of late wouldn't be surprised at all if Bush was somehow involved in 9/11.
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Fri May-20-05 03:21 PM
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11. I know a bunch of Duers who don't give the LIHOP/MIHOP theories any |
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credence. They mainly post in the non-political forums.
Even though there is much speculation and a whole lotta damning circumstantial evidence, many liberals and democrats, even on DU, would rather hoist the BFEE on a more solid petard than LIHOP/MIHOP.
I am not one of their camp, although I can see their point.
Myself, I've always been suspicious, even on 9/11. It just all seemed TOO damned convenient.
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Fri May-20-05 03:51 PM
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12. I felt the same way on 9/11 |
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But was too embarassed to speak up then... I don't know why. Maybe it was out of the shock of the lives that were lost that day. I can understand why people wouldn't want to believe that Bush had anything to do with it - no one wants to believe that Americans are capable of being that evil - we're supposed to be the good guy. Saddam is the guy that kills his own people - the USA would never do that.
It's when the towers fell that I felt something was fishy. There are just too many unanswered questions about that day to just accept the official story.
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Fri May-20-05 03:09 PM
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8. Could you reconcile yourself to having supported Hitler? |
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If they admitted to themselves that Bush did this, they would feel, however briefly, complicit and culpable.
So the more lies he piles on, the greater the psychological cost of breaking away.
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Fri May-20-05 04:14 PM
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15. Bubba: "Because, by god, he stands up for what he believes in, by god." |
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"We need a leader who stands for something, you lilly-livered, sniveling, elite liberal, you.....by god."
"We need to make Murika strong again............by god."
((Those are some of the comments I got when I asked the same questions your are asking. Note they don't care that he was wrong, just that he stood up for something, anything.)) Sigh.
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Fri May-20-05 04:19 PM
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16. Democracy is a religion in many ways... |
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You are asking people to give up their faith and they cannot do it. There is only so much truth any one mind can hold, after that, there is only the abyss. People cannot believe the truth no matter how much evidence they are given.
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