Germans and Russians Used Fluoride to make Prisoners Docile

[MellowOne]

Would this explain why Americans are so immune to the weekly lastest Republican scandal?


GERMANS & RUSSIANS USED FLUORIDE TO MAKE PRISONERS 'STUPID & DOCILE

By: Devvy

May 14, 2005

NewsWithViews.com

"To whom it may concern: I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League from May 2, 1936 to October 9, 1939. During this period of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats and the number 18-B-2. My testimony before the Government is incorporated in Volume 9 of the Un-American Activities Report for the year 1939.

"While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist underground training schools outside the City of New York in the Bues Hall and 113 East Wells Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The East Wells Street School operated under the name of the Eugene Debs School. Here, under the tutoring of Eugene Dennis, M. Sparks, Morris Chyilds, Jack Kling and others, we were schooled in the art of revolutionary overthrow of the established Government.

"We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation; where it would keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.

"According to Chemical Engineering News in 1988, each year in the United States, 80,000 tons of hydrofluosilicic acid, 60,000 tons of sodium silicofluoride and 3,000 tons of sodium fluorides are put into public water supplies (Chemical Engineering News, Vol 66, August 1, 1988, pg. 39). In view of all known research, it would be safe and accurate to rephrase the previous sentence and say that each year the United States Government allows 143,000 tons of fluoride products to be added to public water supplies in order to numb, disempower, and render docile a large percentage of the population. Present estimates in 1995 run about 200,000 tons annually. Now, why on earth would any oligarchic group (a small group) want to do this to tens of millions of people, deliberately and knowingly?



http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd102.htm

[pauldavid]

1. Tinfoil Hat

I cant find my tinfoil hat. Can I borrow Yours?

[MellowOne]

2. This is your very first post?

Weird.

[aeolian]

4. Sorry, mine's super-glued on. Get your own.

And you can't have my foil vest either.

:hide:

[ck4829]

3. I wonder...

Does anyone know of a list of places where fluoride is put into the tap water?

Maybe we should compare that that list with the Red-Blue Map and see what comes up.

[Must_B_Free]

5. Interesting connection to MK Ultra documentation

I recall one of the stated goals of the program was to explore substances that could be used to make a population docile.

"· Lower ambition and efficiency, "

[R. A. Fuqua]

6. it is interesting--

and I know one very prominent dentist who is extremely anti-floride. It is food for thought.....

However--it seems like the US society is one of the MOST violent--and many areas have floridated the water and used floridated toothpaste and tooth treatments for many years. This goes against the theory of floride making the citizens docile.

I wonder if it is breathing the flouride gas (as opposed to being exposed to the flouride in non-gas form) that may be the difference?

[kaygore]

12. My Dad's a dentist & a health nut & pro-fluoride

He was born in an area of Michigan that has naturally occurring fluoride in the water. The guy has no cavities nor do his siblings--all in their late 70s and early 80s. My dad worked on research while he was in dental school at University of Pennsylvania that showed that fluoride does prevent cavities.

My dad is a vitamin and natural foods maniac. If he thought that fluoride was a health problem, he would have been against it. He is always looking for natural remedies before turning to pills.

Problems with your teeth cause all kinds of problems for your health. Fluoride is an inexpensive means of improving dental health much as putting vitamin D in milk helps our bones.

[R. A. Fuqua]

17. The dentist I know is extremely prominent

he is in San Diego and his last name is Kennedy. He is WACKO on the Floride issue--has tried to get signatures to get anti-Floride stuff on the ballot in California and stuff like that.

His brother is a really prominent business man in the Bay Area and he funds most of the crazy activities. This dentist has also put anti-flouride commericals on TV and stuff like that.

Anyway--there are definitely differences of opinion even among dentists (although I personally think this guy is a little off-beat on the subject--he is still well-educated and extremely prominent and well-thought of).

[kaygore]

19. Water can have fluoride in it naturally

That's how they figured out that fluoride reduces tooth decay.

I lived in San Diego and periodically we would have the debate and then it would go quiet again.

Those places that have fluoride in the water naturally have been unwitting participants in a large-scale study of the effects. If it were so bad, then the negative effects would have shown up in these populations. It hasn't ands that was one reason for the research 50 or so years ago into the efficacy of putting fluoride in the water supply.

[R. A. Fuqua]

21. I don't want to be making this argument--

because I AGREE with fluoridation.

However--the people on the other side do have some good arguments. The crux of it is that the DOSE makes the POISON.

Something that is beneficial/harmless in small doses can be quite dangerous in mega doses (which they argue some people are now getting). Also--different exposure pathways--ie inhalation versus ingestion make a big difference as well.

I do not want to argue the other side--I don't agree with them.

My only point is that there is disagreement about this--even among knowledgeable people. Those pro-flouride folks who decline to address the potential impact of these issues (dose and exposure pathway) are (in my view as a scientist) every bit as wacky and irresponsible as the people who are knee-jerk anti-flouride.

[kaygore]

22. Same can be said for chlorine

I am not aware of any public water systems that are putting too much chlorine in the water or too much fluoride.

When I have seen the argument against fluoride in the water, it was simply that: No fluoride in the water. Yet, as I have mentioned, one reason my father got involved in some of the early research in this area when he was in dental school is that there was always fluoride in the well water where he grew up in Michigan and no one in that area had cavities!

Too much of a lot of things (including water) can kill you. Sorry, but the argument is specious unless we are all talking about amounts of Fluoride that are within the accepted safe limits.

[R. A. Fuqua]

23. same thing can be said about

ANY chemical. However, there have indeed been cases of fluoride poisoning (I am sure that your dentist father is aware of the literature).

The problem is that small children are the most vulnerable to poisoning at mega-doses--they are also the ones most likely to be exposed at levels that are disproportionately high for their small body size. The effects of long-term choronic exposures to those children that had mega-doses in their childhood is particularly a point of concern to me.


I myself agree with fluoridation--however if/when I have small children I definitely will make sure that their doses are kept minimal during the vulnerable years.

I feel this is a well-reasoned decision, based on the scientific studies and best available knowledge. I have little use for those on the extremes of either side of the argument--they tend to leave little room for reasoned decisions.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. General Ripper on fluoridation:

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

and he'd probably be considered a lily-livered pantywaist by such he-men as Wolfowizz, Perle, and Frum, not to mention Pres. Dumbass

[tnlefty]

20. LOL!!! Precious bodily fluids was the first thing I thought of, too!

Love that movie.

[T Town Jake]

8. Please quit...I'm laughing so hard the tears are literally rolling

...down my cheeks. :rofl:

This weekend's comic relief get's an early start on Friday! Thanks for the laughs.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. YIPPEE!!!! Illinois number one in something!

PERCENT OF PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY POPULATION USING FLUORIDATED WATER AND STATE RANKING




"Have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?"

[Gabi Hayes]

10. such a nice smile

http://www.maebrussell.com/Fluoride/Fluoride%20-%20Commie%20Plot%20or%20Capitalist%20Ploy.html

[Gabi Hayes]

11. one more, then I go out

Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.

Mandrake: Lord, Jack.

Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?

Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.

Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

Mandrake: Hmm.

Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.

Mandrake: Hmm.

Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

Mandrake: No.

Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence

[kaygore]

13. This is 1992 data

I suspect that many more use it now. I also suspect that one reason you see such a high percentage in Michigan and Wisconsin, etc. is that it already naturally occurs in the water in many places in those states. I know that my dad's drinking water growing up in Michigan was naturally fluoridated.

[Gabi Hayes]

15. I know...this was more for fun than anything.....anytime I'm reminded

of Dr. Strangelove, it's a good thing

and isn't that one cute ratsmile?

sorta reminds me of an after picture of Sen. Coleman

[dweller]

14. shades of Walker Percy

The Thanatos Syndrome
Summary
Dr. Tom More, from Love in the Ruins (see this database), now middle-aged, returns to
Feliciana after spending two years in prison for selling prescriptions of Dalmane and
Desoxyn at a truckstop. On his return to his psychiatric practice, More observes that two of
his former patients are acting strangely. In his own words: "In each there has occurred a
sloughing away of the old terrors, worries, rages, a shedding of guilt like last year's
snakeskin, and in its place is a mild fond vacancy, a species of unfocused animal good
spirits." (21)

More observes that his wife Ellen and his children have also undergone some mysterious
personality change. More, the scientist-physician, with the help of his cousin Dr. Lucy
Lipscomb, launches a search for the cause of these and other observations. More and Lucy
discover that John Van Dorn, head of the computer division of the nearby Grand Mer
nuclear power plant and Dr. Bob Comeaux, director of the Quality-of-Life Division of the
Federal Complex overseeing euthanasia programs, are involved in social engineering,
releasing Heavy Sodium into the water supply to "improve" the social welfare.

toss in some pedophilia and now who does this bring to mind?

dp

[Swamp Rat]

16. Here ya go:

:D

[Jim Sagle]

18. Devvy is a far-right ultranationalist crank.

Oliver Kenneth Goff was a young communist who turned right and became an American Nazi agitator before and during WWII.

[thecai]

24. Farmers Also Used Flouride To Subdue Bulls

I've heard Hitler used it on MASSES of people to make them submissive.