Is Bush getting ready to attack Iran?

[DoYouEverWonder]

It seems that all the prewar prep that is going on right now is to get ready for phase II of the Neocon Wetdream. Yet, we all know that Bush doesn't have the manpower or the equipment to launch another attack. He certainly won't get England or anyone else to help out again. So it seems that there is no way for him to really pull this off. What most of us forget is the 800 pound gorilla in the room called Israel. Israel is already in the region, fully equipped, well trained and well rested. This time it is their turn and Bush can't wait to pick up the phone and call his old buddy Ariel and tell him to go. I dread the day and it may be coming soon that we wake to hear Israel has launched an attack on Iran. This is how Bush is going to accomplish his goals and no one's even paying attention. We're all too busy looking at Saddam's underwear.

[leftchick]

1. Somehow I can't see bush** letting Ariel do the attack

bush** is way to selfish and power hungry to let sharon have the first shot. I envision The US dropping some bombs on "strategic targets" and then perhaps letting sharon play with his soldiers in Iran on the ground.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Bush is a coward

He doesn't care who gets to do the dirty work, as long as it gets done.

[leftchick]

7. he is indeed a coward

but he is a greedy, selfish coward who looks at war as a frigging video game. I still say he wants to watch HIS bombers on TV attacking Iran. Either way though you are right, it will happen.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Bucky]

3. "all options..."

"...are on the table"

[radfringe]

54. two words : Midterm elections

[whistle]

4. Yes, no longer if, but when....

...I believe the U.S. and Israel will attack Iran in June 2005

[libhill]

5. Which could easily ignite World War 3

A U.S. supported/instigated Isreali attack on Iran will throw the whole Arab world into a frenzy. Sheer fucking insanity. But maybe that's what these morons want. Usher in Armageddon so that Bushco's Fundie base can fly up to the sky to meet Jaysus.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. This is what they want

The rich ones are counting on riding it out in their bunkers, so they can have the place to themselves when it's done.

It's a shame because allowing people access to safe and affordable methods of birth control, would solve a lot of our over population problems. For some reason these bastards prefer killing people after they are born instead. They seem to thrive on death and destruction.

[libhill]

11. I agree

and call me a conspiracy freak, but I still believe that these assholes plotted and implemented 9/11. Terrorists my ass.

[havocmom]

23. Profit margin on war is much bigger than on pills

It IS that simple.

[LightningFlash]

6. Bush is now a washed up idiot.

Condaleeza Lying Rice is getting ready to attack Iran. She wanted to attack Iran and end those no good "bigots" (in their own words) ages ago, along with Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and the rest of the nazi la hague patrol....

I'm sure Karl Rove is putting up the ultimate diversion to get Iran invaded. But that doesn't mean the world will forget about the UK Downing Street Memo where Condi's words and more were exposed......

[bklyncowgirl]

8. I think so.

They seem to be a pretty good job of setting the stage for another terrorist attack. How many pissed off Muslims might be motivated to do something--anything to attack the Great Satan.

Once it happens--and it needn't be anything as spectacular as 9/11 and it certainly doesn't matter who's actually responsible--they can blame it on Iran--or maybe Syria--and beat the war drums. If they time it right they can get the war fervor up to a fever pitch just in time for the 2006 elections.

OK girl, time to take off the tinfoil, our government would never use a terrorist attack to justify a preplanned war against a country that had nothing to do with that attack--oh wait a minute--they've already done it.

Forget that last paragraph.

[Shoeempress]

10. Why else is Chimpy pushing Bolton so hard. NYT"s Hirsch reported earlier

this year the order is in place to launch by June, and if they plan to use Israel it would lead to WW3. But I think that is the plan to bring about Armageddon. OK, I guess I should go out and do something mindless today, as I'm really sounding like a conspiracy nut.

[ananda]

12. ultimate diversion

I guess an attack on Iran would be the mother of all smokescreens. Keep Americans too scared to fuck with politics, and too diverted by war and terrorism to even know or care what politics is really all about any more.

It's worked so far. Why mess with success? More war, chaos, and terrorism sounds like a plan. Who cares what the world thinks? They're either fer us or agin us. They either love freedom or hate it. We know what side we're on. Bring it on!

Sue

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. So is there any way

to prevent such a disaster?

Or are we on a runaway train, with Casey Jones on steroids at the wheel and no one can stop him?

[libhill]

15. There is a way

Impeach Bush.

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. Without a free press

and Congress under Republican Control, impeachment is not an option.

Resignation is though. How can we, the people, force him and his gang to resign?

[libhill]

18. Well

We no longer have a free press in this country, so short of violent revolution, we're screwed. Unless the Repukes are stupid enough to bring back the draft. And with their perpetual war mentality, I don't see how a draft can be avoided.

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. That's why Bush needs Israel's army

then he won't need a draft to invade Iran.

[libhill]

21. He soon will

when Russia, China, and the entire Muslim world jump on his head and yell cock a doodle fucking doo! HE CAN'T PLAY HITLER FOREVER WITH TOTAL IMPUNITY.

[libhill]

14. West Coast this time

a dirty bomb, blamed on them thar EyeRainEyeAns, what done hates us fer our freedoms. Americans will believe any damn thing. And no one in the media has the balls to ask questions.

[paparush]

43. Certainly Might Shore Up

The '06 Freep Vote.

[dogman]

17. When asked this question the other night Wes Clark said probably

in June '06. It will likely be an air war on select targets with the hope of insurrection to overthrow the government following the attacks. Scott Ritter has also said the preparations will be gin in June'05 and follow through in the coming year. This is why Bushco wants Bolton in the UN to build the case against Iran and call for sanctions. This will open the door for the US to take action when it is rejected or if implemented we will attack for non=compliance as we did in Iraq.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. They don't have until next year

Their shit will fall apart before then. I think the events of the last few months is putting their plans into overdrive.

[dogman]

22. I don't believe that.

Who is going to bring them to justice? They want a war by election '06 to increase their stranglehold on this country. Their strategy has worked so far and their plan is to keep the Dems on the defense. If we can't even control debate how are we going to introduce accountability to the forefront?

[concord]

25. "They want a war by election '06"

This makes most sense to me. The buildup for Iraq was telegraphed long before the actual invasion. And it was timed exactly to have greatest influence on the '02 midterms. I see the same thing happening with Iran. Your arguments make sense dogman.

[dogman]

26. I wish I were that brilliant.

This is the answer given by Wes Clark when asked about Iraq at an appearance in Chicago Thursday night. He said troop withdrawal in Iraq will begin at the end of summer and the attack on Iran will be timed for June'06. as I noted I had heard a similar analysis from Scott Ritter on Air America in the last few weeks.

[concord]

35. Maybe you are :)

Thanks for passing along the info anyway. :hi:

[Tinksrival]

37. Major clue: Watch for a draw down in Iraq.

I also was at the events in Chicago with Wes Clark. I asked him if Bush expands the war in the Middle East would that facillitate the need for a draft. He said no...they plan on shifting troops and another shock and awe campaign. He did tie it in to the 2006 elections as a way to politically corner the Dems into that "Your weak on defense and security" meme. This will be effective in muzzling them again like they were before Iraq.
Wes Clark stresses to see the signs. Their doing it again!

No U.S. talks with Iran.

Leave negotiations up to other countries and set them up to fail by continueing to threaten Iran.

Continue to undermind the U.N.

Wes says Iran is more motivated than ever to obtain nuclear wepons because of how Bush works.

Iraq--no weapons---attacked

North Korea--Nukes---no attack

The U.S. and Israel will not let Iran arm so this will happen whether we are prepared or not. Bush's little experiment in spreading democracy in Iraq has really f'ed things up.

With the timing before the '06 election we probably won't see a draft.
but what does that mean for the Armed Forces? It will take a lifetime to repair the damage caused by Bush's blunders. They will have to rely heavily on the Airforce and an air campaign. Which means civilian casualties.

Will the citzens of this country take to the streets when Bush starts dropping bombs again. Or will they all be cheering the call for "freedom is on the march" again.

[paparush]

44. If that indeed happens...

I will, for once, get off my lazy white ass and protest in the streets of DC. That is my solemn pledge.

[radwriter0555]

24. Yes. More for the draft really. Stir up crap in Afghanista, stir up crap

in Iraq.. cause more civil unrest in Iraq and they'll need more troops. WHOOPS, better attack that Iran Yellowcake Threat!

[blondeatlast]

27. Doesn't FAUX already have a graphic?

What more proof do we need?

[mopaul]

28. the attack we all fear might be on Israel, & w's called in to help

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. I'm sure

they'll come up with a spectacular excuss. They know they've got to top 9-11 for shock and awe value.

[Beetwasher]

29. I Think They're Planning To Nuke Iran, After A Nuke Goes Off in The US

Chimpy can't wait to nuke someone...

No need for troops or manpower w/ that scenario...

That would explain the massive amounts of provocation we're seeing. They are desperately trying to provoke the Arab world to set off a nuke in the US so they have an excuse to retaliate likewise.

[rhett o rick]

30. His popularity has dropped, time for more War. That will "unite" us like

the last one (oops, current one)

[welshTerrier2]

31. Syria first ??

i've been reading all sorts of reports that purportedly link Syria to some of the "insurgent activity" in Iraq ... this is the kind of pre-attack propaganda i would expect to see floated to begin building a case for an attack ...

my money's on Syria for bush's next travel adventure ...

[DemonFighterLives]

32. It is a toss up

Perhaps Sharon will do one while dubby does the other.
I sure hope pooty poot or china step up to the plate soon.
What is wrong with my country when I have to pray for the commies to bale us out?

[bikebloke]

48. Perhaps merely a feint towards Syria

Then, attack Iran instead. Syria is one of their torture outsourcers, I believe.

They can nuke Iran, but they'll still need boots on the ground to steal their oil. And that will be the neocon's Stalingrad. Take a gander at a topographical map. Iran is mountainous, starting right on the Iragi frontier. The tanks can't just roll in. Not to mention that Iran is far more prepared militarily than Iraq, as mentioned by several folk here.

[KansDem]

34. He'd be a fool to do it...

??
:(

[catmandu57]

36. then they're bigger fools than I thought

Iran has some powerful friends, namely Russia and China. They aren't paper tigers either, also if I remember correctly, Syria and Iran have a mutual attack pact.

I'm sure that the other big two have means to bring these fuckwads to heel other than military, but, they have that trump card.
I don't think the world will stand for more aggression by these idiots, and as I've stated there are other means than military to make a point.

N. Korea on the other hand is a viable option, they don't have the friends or influence that Iran and Syria do. I heard some troubling sabre rattling recently about a military build up in that region.

[jfw9999]

38. What would happen?

I don't believe that Bush has any support left in either the European Nations or even the Military in this Country. The brass may have to kowtow to him - but the on the ground and operational people have been telling both the White house and Rumsfeld that they are overstretched in Iraq and no possibility of any other adventure unless it is simply from the air and no ground support.

Well .................. that is the possibility. Bush (or more accurately, Cheney) authorizes an air attack similar to Clinton's Serbian fiasco.

Then we can write off the Islamic world forever and get ready for the repercussions for years to come. We will be the equivalents of right wing Israelis.

[ausiedownunderground]

39. It all depends on how Iran responds?

It's Iran's response that will dictate whether the March to Freedom & Democracy continues or whether The "Bush Gang" takes Sharon and possibly the "Rest of the World" into one giant "Clusterfuck"!!

[Blue_In_AK]

40. I think there will be another domestic "terrorist" attack first...

...so that the going-to-war-with-Iran pill goes down easier with the public.

[paparush]

45. But aren't the Freeps F@cked if they

Allow/inflict a 2nd attack. Didn't Shrub run on the premise that he alone can keep 'Merka safe?

[Blue_In_AK]

47. And we all see how well THAT'S going, right?

Oh, I feel so safe now. :sarcasm:

[Ladyhawk]

41. He would be crazy if he did...

...then again, he might be crazy.

You never know what's going to happen with Commander Cuckoo-Bananas in charge.

[greatbubba]

42. Less than a month to go till the begginging of the end.

[Just Me]

46. Anyone taking note that number of troops are increasing,...

,...rather than decreasing?

Just askin'.

[Melynn]

49. Here's a nightmare for ya

Bush just nukes Iran except of course of the oil fields. :nuke: No need for ground troops.

[Pryderi]

50. Shhhhh....don't tell anybody about

the Downing Street Memo. It might be grounds for impeachment.

[DoYouEverWonder]

51. If a blue dress was grounds for impeachment

then the Downing Street Memo should be grounds for immediate arrest but we no longer live in a free country, so I don't expect much to come from it.

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

[Pryderi]

52. Dems should at least talk talk to the media about the Memo

Make the Republicans and the President even more unpopular in '06!!!

[Deja Q]

53. You betcha. Iran makes perfect sense:

Iran is the ideal target because the EU is also queasy about Iran's nuclear programs.

* will get his coalition and all naysayers will be quashed.

Except Iran has rather more legitimacy than Iraq.

What happens AFTER Iran should be of even bigger concern... :scared: