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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:37 PM
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NEWS: "Bush gets mixed reception at Christian college"
Edited on Sat May-21-05 06:12 PM by Bluebear


"YOUR DEEDS DO NOT ECHO THE FAITH WE LIVE BY" - a protest sign

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (Reuters) - President Bush on Saturday championed faith in American society, but ran into some criticism as courted his Christian base in a commencement speech at a Michigan college.

"We need to support and encourage the institutions and pursuits that bring us together. And we learn how to come together by participating in our churches and temples and mosques and synagogues," Bush told graduating seniors at Calvin College, a Christian liberal-arts college.

But anti-Bush ads that ran in the local newspaper, protests outside the event and buttons worn on graduates' robes made clear that many students and faculty objected to Bush's policies.

"We believe your administration has launched an unjust and unjustified war in Iraq," said a letter signed by about one-third the college's 300 faculty members and published in Saturday's Grand Rapids Press.
"As Christians, we are called to be peacemakers and to initiate war only as a last resort," it said.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050521/ts_nm/bush_religion_dc
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:38 PM
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1. OMG that photo!
Is that from today? Gruesome!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:40 PM
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5. Unfortunately no
But it's timeless :)
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:39 PM
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2. LOVE that pic! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
:rofl:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:39 PM
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3. The way I see it, if 1/3 were willing to sign, there were more that
agreed, but weren't willing to sign, even more that were undecided, and probably 1/3 or less that fall in lockstep with the Chimperor.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:43 PM
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8. The magical 33%
You notice every poll that is in lockstep favoribility with this monkey seems to hover around that 33% mark?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:40 PM
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4. Cool.
He gets a reception like this in one of the hotbeds for conservatism.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:49 PM
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10. Evangelical is not necessarily fundamental
I'm an agnostic, but still interested in the spiritual. I suggest "God's Politics" by Jim Wallis. He's an Evangelical who's 180° from these fundamentalist assholes. I agree with his ethics, if not his religion.
GO HAWKS!!!


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:42 PM
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6. What, he couldn't get a hand-picked crowd for a graduation?
If he gets out more to real America, things will get real ugly really quick.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:06 PM
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11. That's why I am surprised!
I know Rove has connections at Calvin but I am surprised the monkey handlers weren't more careful. There will be some real discipline scenes going on at the WH tonight!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:09 PM
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13. I would have thought that Calvin College would be as close to hand picked
as Rove could get. Maybe next time he'll go to Bob Jones Univ.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:52 PM
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20. Hope College may be more "Christian," since it really sits
in the belly of the Christian conservatibe beast in Michigan--Holland.
Didn't Hope just fire a prof for opposing Bush and the war?

Actually, for ultra-conservatism, but not necessarily of the fundie variety, Hillsdale is supposed to be the Michigan Mecca.

Of course, some of us, when we're in Michigan, bow in the direction
of the real Mecca--Ann Arbor.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:43 PM
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7. Calvin College
Is where the GOP recruited their little racist thugs to intimidate voters in Detroit in November. If Bush's support is waning there, the tide is truly turning against him.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:14 PM
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17. Yeah - on the national news someone called Calvin a "moderate Christian"
college.

Uh, no. This is a serious stronghold for conservative Christians and hardline Republicans. Or it was.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:18 PM
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18. Calvin's never been super-conservative.
I had a couple friends from there in college. We were all on the Coalition of Christian Colleges and Universities Russian Studies Program together. Trust me, Calvin isn't nearly as conservative as many other "Christian" colleges. I went to Mt. Vernon Nazarene College in Ohio, and our school was much, much more conservative. Calvin doesn't even make chapel attendance mandatory. :eyes:

On the other hand, reports from the protestors saying people driving by were mostly sympathetic gets my attention. We may have won Kalamazoo County for Kerry (worked darn hard for that, too!), but this is a very conservative area of the state. If the others in the area were also against Bush, he's in trouble.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:45 PM
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9. Chimp comes up against real Christians
who have an understanding of the tenets of Christianity. Someone is going to have a sore ass at the WH tonight. Next year watch for him to give his one and only commencement address at Bob Jones U.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:08 PM
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12. Not only can he divide liberal from conservative Christian,
now he's even setting the conservative Christians against each other. What a guy.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:26 PM
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14. Sharpie marker: $2, Christian made Anti-Bush/Anti war protest sign, $3
Picture of Dubya looking like he stubbed his toe, priceless!
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:32 PM
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15. Bush said..
"Soon you will collect your degrees and say good-bye to a school that has been your home, and you will take your rightful place in a country that offers you the greatest freedom and opportunity on Earth," Bush told the graduates."


Well it did before you took office chimpie.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:11 PM
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16. All this and Pickles booed too.
Is there a sudden awakening?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:19 PM
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19. Where's he sending them? n/t
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