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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:29 PM
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I hope you will endorse Dennis Kucinich.
I have in front of me the completed voter registration forms that i might vote dennis kucinich in the primary. It is totally exciting for me to vote for someone i actually belive is trustworthy.

I have never met Mr. Kucinich, but i support him for the following reasons:

1. He is the only candidate who actually represents enlightened viewpoints.


... geez.. no other reason.


:-)

Blind faith is the worst, ain't it.. but you also might call that blindness "intuition".

Mr. Kucinich is the only candidate fit for the job... of all parties.

Honourable Sir Mr. Kucinich, i have never met you, but i have every seeing that you are the natural leader. May your victory, however it manifests, destroy your opposition.

Namaste,
-sweetheart
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:31 PM
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1. I say reach for the stars
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:02 PM
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6. Exactly...
and DK is a star.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:52 AM
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74. So, you're supporting his candidacy, then?
Cool.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:32 PM
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2. Kucinich is the next president !....When all the other candidates get SARS
lol
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:00 PM
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19. Play nice.
You don't like it when people bash your candidate.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:03 PM
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20. Good on ya, Brian
Thanks, the gesture's appreciated.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:08 PM
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21. hard at work spreading that meme, eh...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-03 09:09 PM by bpilgrim
just like the rest of corporate america.

well, there are a LOT more of US than THEM and they are DEATHLY afraid that his message may actually get out hence all the 'fruitcake' cracks because they know it has the very real potential to SPREAD and even if he doesn't get it this time he is certainly plowing the fields for reform which we ALL agree is DESPERATELY needed.

:hi:

peace
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:37 PM
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29. Amen to that -- vote for Dennis & vote for REFORM!
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:19 AM
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40. And another empty bash from someone with nothing substantive to say
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:04 PM
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60. I got that kind of reaction from people when they found out
I was supporting Wellstone the first time he ran for the Senate.

The reason I support DK is that his positions seem to be the closest to Wellstone's. I had a lot of trouble coming to a decision on a candidate. The political hack in me kept looking at electability, my better nature told me to go with ideals.

Yes, DK is currently a long shot. That may change, it may not. If it doesn't I'm fully prepared to support the nominee. With the exception of Lieberman (who I would still vote for) I will not have any trouble supporting the nominee.

We all want the same thing and that's getting Bush out of the White House. The fact that we're looking at different ways to do it is healthy. Rather than continue to bash each other's candidates, couldn't we just discuss our own candidate's strengths and why we support him/her? We don't want to come out of the convention with so much bitterness between the various camps that we lose sight of the real goal
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:33 PM
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3. Starpass Said It Well
Kucinich is the HEART of the Democratic Party. I will gladly vote for him should he win the nomination, although I am still supporting Clark!

DTH
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:05 PM
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9. Yep Kucinich is the heart of the Democratic party
If Kucinich doesn't get a place in the next Dem administration, I might quit the party in protest. Seriously.
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:06 PM
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27. As what?
Sec of Labor or something? Is he not running for his House seat again? Seems he might be a more effective voice there than working in the federal bureaucracy.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:57 AM
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75. I think there are bigger things in store for DK than a cabinet position.
I've just got a hunch that in calmer and saner times and with a little more seasoning and polish, Kucinich could be the beneficiary of the ultimate Dean-style grassroots uprising.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:17 PM
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23. i don't understand why folks don't support him then...
we will never change the status quo if we contiue to elect them.

we have a REAL opprotunity through grass roots to elect a real reformer - as dean has demonstrated - if we all work together and leverage the new power that the internet provides us - thank GORE - but many of us are still stuck with old patterns of behavior and miss this golden opprotunity and are dilluting our efforts with this crowded primary and worse bickering amongst ourselves instead.

i am confident that these times would bring out many more folks to the polls IF we brought them someone who actually spoke to them the 90% and DK certainly has the right message, imo.

anyways, i do appreciate your fair comments :toast:

peace
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:31 AM
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48. Here's Why
My fear is that there are many other Democrats currently running who are more electable than Kucinich. As my first priority is ousting Bush, that has to factor into my thinking.

That's why I support Clark, because I believe that in addition to being liberal on many important issues, he is also extremely electable.

That said, I like and respect DK and again, would happily vote and work for, and donate to, him if he got the nod.

DTH
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:05 AM
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76. Because, for example, his negatives outweigh his favorables
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 06:10 AM by stickdog
by a considerable margin (18% - 12%) among those who recognize him in New Hampshire -- where many are already paying attention to the race closely.

And even among Iowa's relatively activist caucuses, he's never polled any more than 2% of the vote.

That's a tough row to hoe for a Rep who isn't the most persuasive paragon of convincing competence -- regardless of how much many of us true believers want to play Fox Mulder to DK's energizing starship.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:23 AM
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41. Please think about this, though
When you say his values are the real Dem values (which is, I presume, what you mean), and you'll support him if he gets the nomination...

Then what you're implying is that real Dem values aren't that important to you and you'll do what you can to see that he DOESN'T get the nomination.

Is that how you really feel?
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:36 AM
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51. No, Not at All
I have nothing against DK, and I certainly would not try to sabotage his campaign. I just happen to believe that other candidates would be more electable in the general election. I don't agree that choosing to support those other candidates is somehow working against DK.

On the issues, like I said, I think DK is the heart of the Democratic party. I don't agree with DK on every single issue, but neither do I agree on every single issue with my own chosen candidate, Clark.

Politics is all about compromise, and at the end, the question is whether a candidate -- blemishes and all -- is good enough to get and hold your support. Different people draw that line in different places.

Speaking only for myself, all of the current Democratic candidates are good enough for me, although I certainly have differing degrees of enthusiasm for some of them. :-)

DTH
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:35 PM
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4. As one who agrees with you, and finds your screen
name interesting, allow me to provide one stanza of Bob Dylan's "A Sweetheart Like You":

"You know, news of you has come down the line
Even before ya came in the door
They say in your father's house, there's many mansions
Each one of them got a fireproof floor
Snap out of it baby, people are jealous of you
They smile to your face, but behind your back they hiss
What's a sweetheart like you doing in a dump like this?"


:hi:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:48 PM
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10. i got banned from UKonline
for "sweetheart", so i used "sweatheart" for 6 months until the moderators forgave me my sin of suggesting "Tony blair should go smoke a joint."

I envisioned this sweathing heart, dripping stinky sweat in a pool on the floor of the workout room when nobody else was sweating.... the blight of middle age.... and sweat - heart sweats for kucinich.

Sweetheart is sweet on kucinich. He is swwweeeeeeet... the alpha and the omega... the man who holds the core of the future in his purse.... i seeeeee something about him... it is heavy shit... but he is the natural carrier of the burden... give it to him and the truth will save us all.

It is so frikking simple to go with the right guy.... or rather not? sadly in an age of morons ascendent.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:55 PM
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25. *falls on floor laughing*
OMG, I think you are my new best friend! Tony Blair should go smoke a joint....Beautiful!

Since you sound a lot like me when it comes to Kucinich, tell me, do you think he's physically attractive? I didn't the first few times I saw him, but then I finally saw a good shot of him smiling, and another of him just listening to someone and realized he's actually quite handsome in his own right.

Ah well, what do I know. Apparently according to everyone I hang out with my spouse is the only man I've ever been involved with who is universally seen as "good-looking".
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:14 AM
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44. Beauty in his heart
Like my soul wants to puke every time i come in contact with *'s photograph... it wants to sing when it sees dennis's photo. He is a wellspring of goodwill... the rarest gem on earth... especially politically.

I love my politicians differently as sexual is not operative... something even more beautiful lies beneath that with mature intents. I see dennis like a super fertile godess that will bring about great good fortune for everyone on the earth in his work. He is my new american hero. Every person who fights the great battles is beautiful to me like i truly do love the spirit of the dead ghandi man i've never met... it bumps up on philosophical proofs of the existance of god, that divine love "exists" love beyond self in whatever stage of development it is in a human person... and when it leaps out... i see god.

My favorite ticket would be kucinich/clark. That would be the best blend of competencies in a world needing desperately to be lead by goodwill (DK) and also lead by excellent military competence in cleaning up the neocon mess.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 05:02 PM
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63. Ok, I'll admit it then;
Have you 2 ever seen another Kucinich supporter's signature line that shows a picture of DK with the words (paraphrasing here) "Dennis Kucinich has Paul Wellstone dripping all over him"?

I just love that!

As you can see by my current avatar, I also adore (and miss) Paul; I also find both Paul and Dennis sexually attractive because I get turned on by inner beauty as opposed to eye candy. Don't get me wrong, of course I can enjoy what appears to me to be the beauty of the opposite gender; but, I want to get physical with the soul/heart/brain of the man. <sigh>

Also, sweets, I agree that Kucinich/Clark would be the perfect pair in the White House. No White House? Dennis MUST remain in Congress to continue the good fight and never settle for being co-opted by some ridiculous cabinet position for anyone else. If his time has not come, we can wait. However, I hope we don't have to wait for a new candidate. However, if we do, we will. For now, we will stay and fight (stand our ground) for Kucinich/Clark. Right?
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. short of the WH.......
Speaker Kucinich?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 05:34 PM
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69. that would make him leader of the commons...
and isn't that prime minister?

First the democrats would have to win the house. Geez, i doanna know about that at all... i don't know about those seats, i wonder if anyone here does... could the house actually become democrat in 2004?

House minority leader he is not, rather only house majority leader or president. He is a player at the national stage, definitely... and i agree that the higher position we can get him to the better.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:31 PM
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71. I could, my dear friend if Kucinich is nominated.
Facts, not just empty dreams. He CAN change the world.

Ever hear The Fixx?
Two songs come to mind-
"I Will" and "Lost In Battle Overseas". http://www.anylyrics.com/lyrics.php?Artist=Fixx&Album=Phantoms&Song=Lost+In+Battle+Overseas

Lost In a Battle Overseas-

Lost in battle overseas
Next thing you know you're on your knees
If you trust in someone on the screen
Then you'll be lost and overseas
Always sharing the time on your hands
Think of who plans
The future for you
There's nothing you can do

So you're in a uniform
It's your calm before the storm
Where is it taking us

One sign of the cross
And you're let loose
How long is the stretch of this hanger's noose
You kill someone just for gain
We end up losing just the same
Always sharing your time with no plans
Think of who hands
The future to you
There's nothing you can do
So you're in a uniform
And it's your calm before the storm
Where is it taking us
Where is it taking us
What does it do for you
This one sign of the cross

Lost in battle overseas
The last thing we need to know is on our knees
If you trust in someone on the screen
Then you'll be lost and overseas
Always sharing time on your hands
Think of who plans
The future for you
There's nothing you can do
So you're in a uniform
It's your calm before the storm
Where is it taking us
Where is it taking us
What does it do for you
This one sign of the cross

We are lost in battle overseas

That song gets me and I understand if Staff needs to edit. Still the meaning is rich and who it applies to is important. Who cares for those "Lost in the Battle"? That's not a personal slam it's just a question of who is it easiest to leave behind. I saw it here, and it near smashed my heart. A young man who asked *Please don't hate me, just accept and forgive me so I can forgive myself." and we answered with self-defense. Selfish asses, knock it off and think! BE them for 30 seconds and then think how you'd be. THINK, dammit!
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:42 PM
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5. do you need to ask?
:hi:

peace
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:03 PM
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7. DK is the only one that deserves enthusiastic support, IMO. I just saw
him in person again 4 days ago in Oakland -- and he was tremendous. It's the 4th time I've seen him in a year; every time, his ability to communicate his ideas fluently & persuasively has improved over the time before.

He's the only one that combines a working class background, a fully-developed political philosophy, & a personal history of doing the principled thing even if it hurt his career (the Cleveland Muni Electric saga when he was Mayor). Co-chair of the Progressive Caucus, right as rain on the Iraq War, right on the PATRIOT Act, someone who called Bush & Cheney "this unelected president and his unelected vice-president" OVER 18 MONTHS AGO! Right on health care, right on cutting the Pentagon Budget.

Monday morning, an admirer - an elderly lady - asked him, "Congressman, is it true that you don't accept contributions from large corporate donors? If that's so, I want to promise you $100 from my personal savings, every month until the primaries."

DK thanked her, & answered with a wistful smile, "Well, it's true that I don't accept corporate donations -- but with MY politics, no corporations will be donating, so it's an academic point!"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:57 PM
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11. heheh...
That is SO Dennis. Thanks for the story.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:07 PM
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12. Check this out then (great news for Kucinich supporters)
Edited on Fri Sep-19-03 09:03 PM by Tinoire
Winners of the Presidential Selector Race

(91,471 Responses to date)

45% Congressman Dennis Kucinich, OH - Democrat
14% Bush, George W. - US President
9% Green Party Candidate
9% Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat
6% Libertarian Candidate
6% Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat
2% Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat
2% Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat
2% Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat
2% Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat
1% Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat
0% Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat
0% Bayh, Senator Evan, IN - Democrat
0% Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat
0% Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat
0% Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat
0% Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat
0% Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat
0% Daschle, Senate Minority Leader Tom, SD - Democrat
0% Phillips, Howard - Constitution
0% McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican
0% Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican
0% Socialist Candidate
0% Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" AR - Democrat
0% Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat
0% Nader, Ralph - Green Party
0% Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat




On edit: link: http://www.fluxrostrum.com/MindFlux/DennisKucinich/electable-candidates.htm
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:54 AM
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39. A comment on Select Smart
DK wins this just because he has so many clearly articulated positions on so many different issues. And when his positions aren't framed by pollster snarl words and stand by themselves, people agree with them.

That said, there are two major flaws in the program. One is that it just adds up the total number of positions that you and the candidates agree on. It does not have anyway of weighting which issues are most important to you.

Another is that once you get past your first three or four choices, criteria for distinguishing among the remainder are bound get more and more bizarre the farther down the list you get.
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gate Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:56 AM
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72. I just took the quiz
I just took the select smart quiz and it DOES have a way of weighting the issues....maybe not ranking in overall order...but it does rank on a level of high, moderate, or low of your choosing the questions that are most important to you.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:08 AM
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67. and don't forget the Newsday poll
" Previously on NewsDay.com Dennis Kucinich was so
electable that he lead the pack in their presidential
poll with 56% of the roughly 10,000 votes cast.
So of course they removed those results and started
over.... twice. Go see what he's winning by the 3rd
time around."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-prez2004story,0,5467485.htmlstory?vote8594962=1


peace.
dp
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:35 PM
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14. jerry brown - like
that corporate truth-telling... truth and honesty are feared horribly in washington... yet in my heart of hearts, i wish so that it was the core set of values... and peace, absence rather than guns.... whatever happened to mature adults in government?

Right Honourable Mr. Kucinich is that mature adult, and though he is a common man, all that more does it show his suitability to be a just leader. He's inspiring that he exists... may there be 10 fold many like him and 1000 more again until neoconism has been lost in 10,000 years of advanced global civilization and higher evolution of all species of humankind....

He sees most closely with the dharma... that is obvious to any observer with a sense. That said, dharma is complex, often with the appearance differeant than the absolute truth. Perhaps the appearance of this thread is to love kucinich, but the truth is that it is a fancy wish in a hard and ugly political war... one that does no harm, but no real good either.

I worry that to be poetic and love hearted , faithfull and full of goodwill towards a politician is not culturally acceptable... yet indeed, perhaps love only happens to a sweet heart when the great lover comes on stage.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:58 PM
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17. The real good:
Is it not fitting that the man who walks the talk got the Ghandi Peace Award this year?

For those of us who believe "we must be the change we wish to see in the world," we make our choices based on the change we wish to see. Not the prediction of failure. And as long as we continue to make our choices in that way, change will indeed occur. Maybe not in the way, or on the timeline, that we envisioned, but it will occur.

Supporting our ideals with words, thoughts, focus, and action creates change.

Supporting Dennis will create change. The only real obstacle, IMHO, to his winning the nomination is doubt and fear. Let's set it aside.

:grouphug:
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:21 PM
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28. Mr. Kucinich is
a great speaker,and the next president of the United States.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:12 AM
Response to Reply #17
61. Edit!
I really do know how to spell "Gandhi"

:eyes:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:03 PM
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8. MEE TOO!!!!
and i supported him $$$$$....you are a sage soul :toast:
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:08 PM
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13. He has earned my endorsement
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:38 PM
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15. Absolutely
The primaries are the one chance, likely the only chance I'll get to back a candidate without reservation. More than once I've been warned about "diluting the vote", "splitting the progressives" so that an unsavoury candidate walks with the nomination -- the same browbeating Greens get in general elections. Tough shit, I'll support who I genuinely want in the effing primaries, and soil myself with compromise and horse trading later, if it comes to that. I'm with Dennis until the bitter end.
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:50 PM
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16. Kucinich represents the HEART of the Democratic Party
Like FDR and the Kennedys before him, the man has the vision to restore internal and EXTERNAL faith in the United States.

I will support the nominee, but my heart is with Dennis.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:00 PM
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18. He's a real Democrat
not the fake version we've been living with for so long.

I wonder if there are any real Republicans out there anywhere instead of the fake neocon ones we've been fighting for so long.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:12 PM
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22. I am in total agreement
but alas many of our fellow democrats don't feel the same. They doubt he can win, to bad all those who feel that way don't choose to endorse him. Why can't we vote and elect the best of the candidates instead of who is most likely to win, It seems logical to me make him be the one most likely to win and do that with your vote.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:20 PM
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24. *sigh*
He can't win. Don't you understand? He has been declared unelectable. I gave him $50 anyway though, just because I believe in what he has to say. And I've never donated anything to anything before, so that ought to tell you how much I like Dennis.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:01 AM
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34. propaganda
http://www.fluxrostrum.com/MindFlux/DennisKucinich/electable-candidates.htm

This tactic of telling U.S. who is electable and who isn't electable is straight up propaganda in hopes of narrowing the selection in the minds of voters by weeding out candidates that our corporate sponsors deem unacceptable. In other words, if a candidate has the intention of putting people over profit... they are unelectable. If candidates have the intention of really doing something about corporate fraud.. they are unelectable. If candidates will not need to spend 50 million dollars brainwashing the masses with endles lies in the form of commercial advertising... they are unelectable.

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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:02 PM
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26. He's had my full support and backing since March
and he's not losing it anytime soon. I'll be ready with the Draft Kucinich movement in 2008, if it comes to that, and as many times as it takes to make him our President.

Meanwhile, I keep talking. This evening was pretty comical. A local City Councilwoman came to my door canvassing. I told her I'd be glad to take a look at her record and issues if she'd take a good long look at Congressman Dennis Kucinich in return.;) She got a royal kick out of that. I do believe that's the first time anyone had ever hit her with a return message.

I'm good for that these days. The media won't do it so I just keep on talking.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:49 PM
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30. I'm proud to endorse and support Dennis and VOTE for him. It


will be a great pleasure to vote for someone whose positions I actually agree with and feel excited about.

Too many times I've voted with no enthusiasm for the "lesser of two evils" I cast my vote for. Jim Hightower's book "If the Gods Had Wanted Us to Vote, They Would Have Given Us Candidates" is a favorite of mine and the title is all too true most years.

THIS time, we have a candidate worth voting for: Dennis Kucinich!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 11:29 PM
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31. Mara mars the minds of many...
Dennis is a truthbearer -- and so many cannot bear the truth.

As a lover of truth, as a daugher of the Dharma, it is only Kucinich who speaks to my heart and my spirit...

sw
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:12 PM
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70. Just another reason
you've long been on my buddy list!

:loveya:
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 11:38 PM
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32. Not a chance but good luck to you all
I will support the guy if he wins the nomination. As for me I'm going with Clark.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:32 AM
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42. Why did you need to insert such an EMPTY objection?
That's just bashing. That's the very definition of bashing.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:26 PM
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57. Saying that I would not endorse him is bashing?
There is no chance I will support DK over Clark, I would however support him if he wins the nomination.

What exactly is your problem with that?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:42 PM
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58. I beg your pardon--I forgot what the title of the basenote was
Your post wasn't a bash, and I apologise (I strongly disagree with it, but there's nothing offensive about it at all and I'm sorry I claimed there was)
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:47 PM
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59. No need to apologize
I could have made myself much more clear and avoided this miscommunication.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 11:40 PM
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33. Go for it!
Every one of US should do what we truly believe in.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:44 AM
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35. K U C I N I C H!!!!!! G O!!!!!!!!!
Love that man. Hey, if he doesn't make it, could he become chief speech writer for the nom.? He's great.
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RowWellandLive Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:49 AM
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36. Give it up!!
This guy is a joke. He has NO chance, except here on DU. He comes off as the wacko that he is. Stop wasting your time. DK is a loser. Does he even rate 1% in the polls. I doubt it.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:52 AM
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37. sounds like you've been getting the 'message'
you must have cable ;->

:hi:

peace
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RowWellandLive Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:05 AM
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38. I do have cable
but that it not necessary to get the message that this guy CANNOT win. He's a loser. High squeaky voice, doofus looks and stature, combined with goofy socialist ideals = Republican dream nominee.

Peace to you too! :hi:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:19 AM
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45. The primary is about issues
The runoff is about "face"

You are confusing the two.

Cable TV confuses the two also as part of a propaganda effort to dissuade voters from taking control of their own country. You speak that brainwashing fluently... == cable. Its a logical assumption.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:33 AM
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43. And here's another totally empty bash from someone who has nothing to say
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 05:36 AM by Mairead
Pity he felt the need to say it.

(edit) Jeez...TWO identical, empty bashes.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:12 AM
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47. I DARE you to try to write one literate paragraph stating reasons for
calling Kucinich a "wacko" and a "loser." I am confident you won't be able to do it, because I sense that you are too uninformed, and that you lack the writing skills needed to produce a cogent paragraph.

Go ahead, prove me wrong. I dare you.

You know what a "loser" REALLY is? It's someone with stupid opinions, and big fat mouth that he's willing to shoot off -- without being able to back it up.
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:35 AM
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49. There's no reason for the name calling
Kucinich is a good man who stands for a lot of things
that the Democratic Party should stand for. The party
often has trouble finding its voice and we need people
like Kucinich to remind us of what the party should be.

He's not a viable candidate and has a couple of whacky positions
but 1% or not he says some of the things that need to be said.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:00 AM
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46. kick?
May your victory, however it manifests, destroy your opposition.

Namaste,
-sweetheart


May the victory "destroy" the opposition? I'll take the victory, I don't want them destroyed ;-) :hi:

Give Thanks And Praise To The Lord, And I Will Feel Alright
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:35 AM
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50.  sweetheart...you are a seer...
and seeing clearly you see the true soul & spirit of this man Dennis J Kucinich.....
:loveya:

He is playing out some major major stuff for ALL of us...some of us realize that we owe him a debt of thanks....I told him that when I met him...I looked him in the eye as he held my hand and I said-"I know what you are doing and I want to thank you"
I am truly grateful for this man.....he can open our hearts & minds to so many good things ....if we lose the fear bushwa has so well established around our lives and trust again.....

...that being said...I am working on the more practical end...trying to get people motivated and the word out ...working on the campaign in my small but strange town ( we are the weirdo magnet of the SW...I swear it!)

but I digress as usual....just want to express my thanks to all DK supporters and I bet you are already doing it...talking to everyone about him..and that is the best we can do...tell everyone about DK...


and send $$ if we can :)

Love all you guys :hi:

Peace will prevail...
Kadeéshte
DR
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:43 AM
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52. On the issues, I would like to have that luxury
but I need my primary vote to vote against the other contenders who I would prefer not to set the tone for the future of the party. Kucinich has a limited audience. I like Dean's personality, I like his courage, I like his grassroots campaign and I feel he has a better chance in the General. And I don't feel I have to sell my soul in voting for him for partly pragmatic reasons.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:37 PM
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56. Honestly Curious
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 12:39 PM by DoveTurnedHawk
I like Dean's personality, I like his courage, I like his grassroots campaign and I feel he has a better chance in the General.

Why do you believe Dean has a better chance than Clark in the general election? Thanks.

DTH
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:20 AM
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64. Because I don't vote Republican?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:48 AM
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53. Ok
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 10:49 AM by Hubert Flottz
He tells the whole truth and that's very rare! Doesn't seem to have the corporate baggage the others carry around their necks! Seems to be the one who most represents working class and unemployed Americans! Better chance than Ralph Nader ever had!
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:25 PM
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54. wasn't aware of his existence until the straw poll on moveon.org
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 12:26 PM by Isome
After reading his interview questions, he got my vote for the poll. Reading more about his platform inspired me to get involved with "meetups" once a month (over an hour's drive from my home). Hearing the incessant use of "unelectable" to describe him as a candidate, without rational explanation or consideration of his political past, proved to me how repetition (an extremly lazy con) is an effective propaganda tool to persuade the incurious amongst us.

Today, I'll be preparing for the mini Peace Party on Sunday to raise some money for his campaign. I'm with him until the end, though I'll never give up on the quest to change America into what it could be.

Something has gone terribly awry with a political party that, in ways both explicitly & implicitly spoken, believes itself to be more emotionally mature than others, yet its members freely disparage potential leaders based on subjective appraisals of superficial characteristics.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:35 PM
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55. Everyday presents an opportunity to endorse Dennis Kucinich publicly
or grassroots style. That's what I do in Green Bay, Madison, Milwaukee, LaCrosse and over the border of Wisconsin. Forget the polls. Talk to people after listening to their complaints, there is hope, his name is Kucinich.
http://www.kucinich.us/
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 05:25 AM
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62. Supporting Dennis
from the beginning to the very end of this process. Issues are what this election, and every election, are about.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:06 AM
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65. Dennis shared some enlightened viewpoints
at the Studio City house party last night. The audience was dead quiet, then wildly enthusiastic. Even those of us who know his viewpoints and already support him are continuously amazed to hear enlightenment coming from a politician. One of the many reasons I support Dennis:

He looks at problems differently. Not the surface symptoms and a quick fix to the symptoms like western medicine; he looks at the source, and generates solutions there. He notices the way things are connected, and the way one problem ripples out to so many issues, and the way one solution does the same.

He sees that we create shift by focusing our time, $$, energy, and words on the change we wish to achieve.
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reachout Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:33 AM
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66. Sure thing
I've studied his voting record and position statements as well as watching him speak on C-SPAN (never live unfortunately). I will cast my vote him on February 3rd with a great big smile on my face. :) It's always nice when you really belive in the candidate you're voting for.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:14 AM
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73. well meaning, but...
My one big problem with Kuchnich is the whole WTO thing. I don't know much about NAFTA, so that I can't comment on, but I don't understand how abandoning the WTO for bilateral agreements is progressive. The whole reason that the WTO is in trouble at the moment is that the third world is bandying together within it... and naturaly the EU and US administrations don't like that. To me it seems the only forum, however flawed, where the third world can stand together and collectively bargain. Bilateral trade agreements invite muscle flexing divide and conquer... however well intentioned a president, what happens if he is stuck with a less well intentioned congress? More to the point, what happens post-Kuchnich? I think that for all its flaws, long term the WTO is the only way to empower the third world to fight for its rights.

Having said that, he is bloody well sound on everything else.
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