Randi's wrong--Frist voted against cloture for Bolton

[Inland]

because then under the rules of order, he can move to reconsider.

[Goldeneye]

1. What does that mean?

[Inland]

5. Which?

Debate continues putting off a vote, Cloture is ending debate and voting on bolton, Frist voted against cloture because under the rules he can move to reconsider.

[Goldeneye]

9. move to reconsider....what does that mean?

And is it in the rules that Frist had to vote no to "reconsider"

nm...got it from a lower post

[Inland]

10. I think its Robert's Rules of Order.

I don't know where it comes from. But I'm sure I'm right.

[MrSandman]

15. To move to reconsider...

One must have been in the original prevailing majority.

On procedural votes, always have someone on your side vote against your side for votes that could effectively end the debate.

[FighttheFuture]

2. Sounds like First may not have the votes to shove him though...

so, delay closing the debate until he does, or some real shit is going to hit the fan on Bolton and he does not want to put a vote forward.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

3. ??? I just heard her too! ???????

[lala_rawraw]

4. That means something is up...

Frist is shoe boy for Rove... something is wrong.

[Nite Owl]

6. I think it was something

precedural. Voinovich switched to yeah and then he voted nay. It was a trade so he could bring it back to the floor at a later time.

[Inland]

7. Frist may now move to reconsider the vote.

He sees that the vote is lost, so he votes for the winners--and then as one of the winners he can move to reconsider the vote.

Is this making any sense at all? I know I'm right, but it isn't coming out too clearly.

[Sydnie]

12. You are absolutely correct

To bring a motion to reconsider you must have voted with the side that prevailed on the original vote. Since you won that vote, you can then ask for the vote to be reconsidered (a do-over) and reopen the debate to call for a new vote.

I wouldn't want to be at his Memorial Day picnic.

[Inland]

14. Is that a Roberts Rules of Order thing?

Cause I think its a common parlimentary tactic.

[Sydnie]

It is Roberts Rules -- right out of the book. n/t

[Sydnie]

16. It is Roberts Rules -- right out of the book. n/t

[Fridays Child]

8. Is Larry Flynt coming through with the goods on Bolton?

We can always hope!

[LoZoccolo]

11. You can keep updated at his site.

http://www.larryflynt.com

This is his non-pornographic site that is mostly about politics that doesn't even have ads for Hustler or anything, so you don't have to worry about what show up on your screen if you clicked on it at work or anything.

[Fridays Child]

13. Cool! Thanks!

:hi: