death threats given to Krugman by Bushites

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

Be sure and read the entire article.

Dont just read the first part about the death threats,
be sure and read the end.

Its very good article



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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1045302,00.html

'I do get rattled'

Paul Krugman is a mild-mannered university economist. He is also a New York Times columnist and President Bush's most scathing critic. Hence the death threats. He talks to Oliver Burkeman

Friday September 19, 2003
The Guardian

The letters that Paul Krugman receives these days have to be picked up with tongs, and his employer pays someone to delete the death threats from his email inbox. This isn't something that can be said of most academics, and emphatically not of economic theorists, but Krugman isn't a typical don. Intercepting him in London on his way back home to New Jersey after a holiday in France, I half expect to find a couple of burly minders keeping a close eye on him, although they would probably have to be minders with a sound grasp of Keynesian macroeconomics. "I can't say I never get rattled," the gnomish, bearded 50-year-old Princeton University professor says a little hesitantly, looking every inch the ivory-tower thinker he might once have expected to be. "When it gets personal, I do get rattled."

What drives his critics hysterical is not, it ought to be clarified, his PhD thesis on flexible exchange rates, or his well-regarded textbook on the principles of economics, co-written with his wife, the economist Robin Wells; nor the fact that he is probably the world authority on currency crises. For the past five years, Krugman - a lifelong academic with the exception of a brief stint as an economics staffer under Reagan - has been moonlighting as a columnist on the New York Times op ed page, a position so influential in the US that it has no real British parallel. And though that paper's editors seem to have believed that they were hiring him to ponder abstruse matters of economic policy, it didn't work out that way.

Accustomed to the vigorous ivy league tradition of calling a stupid argument a stupid argument (and isolated, at home in New Jersey, from the Washington dinner-party circuit frequented by so many other political columnists) he has become pretty much the only voice in the mainstream US media to openly and repeatedly accuse George Bush of lying to the American people: first to sell a calamitous tax cut, and then to sell a war.

"It's an accident," Krugman concedes, addressing the question of how it came to be that the Bush administration's most persuasively scathing domestic critic isn't a loudmouthed lefty radical in the manner of Michael Moore, but a mild-mannered, not-very-leftwing, university economist, tipped among colleagues as a future Nobel prizewinner. "The Times hired me because it was the height of the internet bubble; they thought business was what would be really interesting. Turned out the world was different from what we imagined... for the past two-and-a-half years, I've watched what began as dismay and disbelief gradually turn into foreboding. Every time you think, well, yes, but they wouldn't do that - well, then they do."

more....................lots more.....


BE SURE AND READ THE REST !!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. "I just wake up in the morning and tell myself there's been a military

coup...and then it all makes sense" AMAZING!

Thanks for posting this it really does not mince any words.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

5. ""I just wake up in the morning and tell myself there's been a military"

"I just wake up in the morning and tell myself there's been a military coup"

that quote coming originally from a State Dept official
is what EXACTLY has happened in "(S)election 2000" -

A Right-Wing Coup.

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I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

[wuushew]

2. How can anyone truly hate this man?

He speaks his ideas and backs up his assertions with facts. Is the whole concept of rational thought deemed worthy of death by conservatives?

[StClone]

10. Because he isn't read

By those that despise him. Ditto-nuts, Sham Hannutty shills, Coulter culters and plain spoken dupes hear about the world renown liberal NYT economist, but loathe him without any idea what he believes.

[BeFree]

32. Radical Conservatives

Consider any opposition to their view to be worthy of death. It's scary, ain't it? But these are the same people who support the invasion and occupation of foreign countries. Aka PNAC Cons. Radical and Extreme, they must be defeated and put back in the closet.

Also:
Thanks, Mr. Krugman. You are a true American Patriot. You are welcomed here on DU, no doubt. Let's hope you can reach the Sheeple in the heartland and become as welcome there as you are here.

[demgrrrll]

3. I read this article and I thought if there were any conservative writers

getting death threats they would be screaming at the top of their lungs. The thing is that it is part of someone's job to delete these e mails, he receives that many threats. I defy anyone to come up with anything close to this in terms of scope and number from a conservative editorial writer. They are nuts and so is their leader.

[sangha]

4. Krugman is amazing

and I hope he doesn't fly in chartered airplanes

[xxqqqzme]

6. thanx 4 the link

good article. Kissenger, even the mention of his name makes my skin crawl. The end quote is quite accurate - only it wasn't military. There isn't a military mind among this bunch of chickenhawks.

[Fight_n_back]

7. I saw Krugman on "Charlie Rose" and..

he made me want to curl into a ball and weep.

[sonias]

8. I love Krugman

And I'm glad he's not afraid to speak the truth. I'm even more glad that he has the big soap box of the Times. His column gets run in thousands of smaller papers across the country. We needed his voice when he started attacking bu$h.

(snip from the story linked above)
"The first three pages of Kissinger's book sent chills down my spine," Krugman writes of A World Restored, the 1957 tome by the man who would later become the unacceptable face of cynical realpolitik. Kissinger, using Napoleon as a case study - but also, Krugman believes, implicitly addressing the rise of fascism in the 1930s - describes what happens when a stable political system is confronted with a "revolutionary power": a radical group that rejects the legitimacy of the system itself.
(/snip)

That's interesting about the Kissinger book especially since he's now a war criminal who has bought into the Fascism he purported to fight early on. Another textbook example of absolute power corrupting absolutely.

Sonia

[proghead]

9. Paul Krugman is a hero

n/t

[NewYorkerfromMass]

11. a nice first post!

Welcome. While it is sad that such a story would be enough to get you to register and post, your sentiment is welcome here.
Another soldier in the fight against these evil people is always welcome. :thumbsup:

[calimary]

15. Another boat sailing into a safe harbor. WELCOME!

And yes, definitely a nice opening. Krugman ROCKS!

[newyawker99]

20. Hi proghead!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[DrBB]

12. He was on WBUR The Connection yesterday and MAN.... (link)

I've heard him speak a lot of times and I haven't missed one of his columns since 2000, when he really took fire against ShrumpCorp.

But WOW--I've NEVER heard him say some of the things he said yesterday. He came very close to saying he wouldn't put it past the BushNeoCons to actually seize power and cancel elections. Didn't quite draw the inference explicitly, but in response to a caller he laid the groundwork and then left it open--"It scares me," he said, or words to that effect. I know we hear that a lot on DU but it was more than a little shocking to hear it from someone in his position.

You can hear the interview at http://www.theconnection.org . WELL worth a listen. Now I'm off to read this article--thanks for posting it!

[Q]

13. Krugman is an honest journalist concerned about America's future...

...which automatically makes him an enemy of the Bush* state.

[HPLeft]

24. As they say...

...the inmates are running the asylum. Fascinating that Krugman once worked for Reagan. That shows you how extreme the Bush Administration really is.

[RainDog]

25. In his NYTimes column Friday, sept 12

..I think it was, he said that Bush and Cheney (paraphrasing) are vulnerable now because Iraq has been shown to be a lie, and a failing lie at that.

he said to expect the next election to be even worse than 2000.

or, I think it was something like "the nastiest in history."

actually, I'm glad to hear him saying these things, but those are also the things I think, and he validates my concerns since he has better credentials. :)

for the same reason, when Breslin writes in Newsday that if you back Bush policies you are a "fan of fascism" I feel like there is actually hope for democracy in America when someone will tell the truth.

[whirlygigspin]

30. thanks for the link!

[jumptheshadow]

14. Kick this up!

Thank you for calling attention to this story.

Grrr...so Andrew Sullivan raked Paul Krugman over the coals for getting some money from Enron? Funny, but Sullivan all but gave his old friend Peggy Noonan a pass for the same offense.

[calimary]

16. Anybody know how to write a reassurance to Krugman?

Got an email address for him?

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

19. nytimes email address for Krugman

[e-mail]

[calimary]

21. Cool! Thanks!

[Buns_of_Fire]

26. And a kick just so Krugman can get a few more "Attaboy"s

Lord knows, he needs them... :kick:

[salin]

17. Just bought his book today.

Best revenge - is making sure his ideas are read - and passed along.

Am thinking of buying a couple of extra copies - and passing them on to folks who are still in denial - but are growing skeptical on the economic front. Idea is to write a note to them on the front cover, ask them to read, add to the note, and pass on to someone that they know who is still in denial but is growing skeptical. If I get four copies circulating - even if one of the books falls out of circulation after two reads - It would be possible to get 10-20 people introduced to these ideas.

Its an expensive move - but right now I can do it.

For those who can't - print up several copies of his article from last week's NYTimes Sunday Magazine, and add a few blank pages at the end. Write a couple of thoughts on the first blank page, staple it and pass it along - as I describe above.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

18. great minds think alike -- just bought mine too

After reading that UK Guardian artcle about Krugman,

and after posting it here at DU, I JUST NOW got back
from the bookstore.

...even left a copy of the UKGuardian article about Krugman
with the sales clerk, a young kid, who did not know anything
about Krugman.


if i can support liberal writers/reporters,
even in any small way, including purchasing their books -

I will.

[jab105]

29. Just bought mine too...

Krugman is the best, right-wingers wont even read his articles...

[lancemurdoch]

22. Krugman the economist

I've been reading Krugman's economics books for a while. In the 1990's he's written a few non-technical for the layman books which I've found interesting, he really explains well the course of economic thought from Milton Friedman through rational expectations to now in "Peddling Prosperity" (he also attacks not only supply siders, but Robert Reich and "strategic straders" as not being serious).

He knows his subject and he can express himself well. One thing he says is that as an economist, he has not shifted left or right, the ECONOMY has shifted in a direction that makes him change his views. In other words, he hasn't changed his mind about things, the economy has changed his mind about things. But he's concerned about more than our last recession and the current downturn as a result of that, he talks about Japan's malaise, the Asian financial crisis and so forth. The Guardian is correct when it says he was not so left in the early 1990's, he really wasn't, he was (maybe still is) 100% for free trade, unworried about unemployment in America as a result of jobs heading overseas, and praises sweatshops in Indonesia as being "better than nothing". Plus he is probably the most prominent liberal economist which is why his change in attitude is so interesting. I'm actually more interested in his changing ideas about the economic situation than his political ones, but of course, they're tied together.

I've been trying to ground myself in economics and decided to start with as far left as I could (Marx's Capital and his followers like Paul Sweezy and company) and move right after that to Keynesianism, then to monetarism. His books are so accessible though that I skipped ahead a bit. From far left to far right there is actually a lot of focus on the same issues, and some agreements on what plays out in a recession, although they disagree on why it happens and what can be done about it.

[Ilsa]

23. Krugman interviewed on Fresh Air 9/10/03.

http://freshair.npr.org/week_fa.jhtml

Terry Gross interviewed him on Fresh Air September 10, 2003.. It is archived if you want to listen.

[RainDog]

27. kick

Paul Krugman, will you have my economic babies???

LOL.

[oasis]

28. Sec. of the Treasury, Paul Krugman. I can't wait for November 2004.

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31. "Springtime for Hitler" Paul Krugman's column

this is from last Fall 2002
Column is in Krugamns's new book too.

This is truely extraordinary writing.


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New York Times' Paul Krugman OP/Ed column points out what
the rest of the world has been saying all along - George W Bush's
presidency is a complete lie, just like Hitler kept repeating the lie.

quote:

"You see, some folks must be under the impression that as long as something is repeated often enough, it will become true. That was how George W. Bush got to the top."




Springtime for Hitler
By PAUL KRUGMAN

<snip>
As far as I know, in the past it wasn't considered appropriate for the occupant of the White House to declare that members of the opposition party weren't interested in the nation's security. And it certainly wasn't usual to compare anyone who wants to tax the rich — or even anyone who estimates the share of last year's tax cut that went to the wealthy — to Adolf Hitler.

O.K., maybe we should discount remarks by Senator Phil Gramm. When Mr. Gramm declared that a proposal to impose a one-time capital gains levy on people who renounce U.S. citizenship in order to avoid paying taxes was "right out of Nazi Germany," even the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, Charles Grassley, objected to the comparison.

But Mr. Grassley must have thought better of his objection, since just a few weeks later he decided to use the Hitler analogy himself: "I am sure voters will get their fill of statistics claiming that the Bush tax cut hands out 40 percent of its benefits to the top 1 percent of taxpayers. This is not merely misleading, it is outright false. Some folks must be under the impression that as long as something is repeated often enough, it will become true. That was how Adolf Hitler got to the top."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/18/opinion/18KRUG.html