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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:11 PM
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DJ Decides To Stop Supporting Nine Inch Nails
Edited on Sun May-29-05 04:48 PM by InfoMinister
Update: DJ came back to the forum and said she wasn't boycotting the band. She's just not going to mention them anymore when she plays the song.

I've been checking around on the NIN bulletin boards today to see what people are saying about the recent Nine Inch Nails controversy involving the MTV Movie Awards. Anyway, one DJ who claims to be on several radio stations, including Clear Channel, said she would no longer "support" Nine Inch Nails music.

"I personally am very disappointed in Trent. Everyone is entitled to their own views, but public people shouldn't blatantly publicize their thoughts to the masses.

I'm a dj on many alternative rock stations across the country and until this point have always been a huge supporter of Reznor and NIN. I was a fan before anyone knew who he was. I was one of the first program directors in the country to play NIN even when my bosses thought it sucked, I took the heat.

I will not be putting Trent down on the air as I do not feel I should shove my opinions down listeners throats. I will in fact not even mentioning him skipping the mtv show, because from now on I simply will not give any information out or be a cheer leader for NIN. I used to go on and on about how great this song is, or how amazing the new album is, or how brilliant Reznor is... blah blah blah. Well no more. I will be one jock (on many stations however and with several different companies; including the evil empire clear channel) who never again pushes the music of NIN.

By the way if anyone really took the time to actually read anything about Middle Eastern history and politics, you'd understand we did open a quagmire yes, but it was eventually going to turn into exactly what the bush admin is concerned about. We need to continue to fight the fight that was coming, and do it right. In fact, if we’d have taken a few pople out back in the 70’s when we knew they had very bad, evil wishes for all citizens of the United States we wouldn’t have given them time to create, train, arm and fund the mass armies they have today. Now we have a bigger issue, time would along allow the radicals to gain strength and forces. Go Bush! God Bless the United States Military! And as we approach Memorial Day, thank you and God Bless all the fallen soldiers and their families for the tremendous sacrifice they made for all of our freedom."


- http://forum.nineinchnails.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5092&whichpage=1
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:13 PM
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1. Haven't you heard? The first amendment has been repealed.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:39 PM
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16. Corporate censorship
The right-wing/libertarian philosophy is that censorship is okay if the "free market" does it. If it's one radio station, I don't have a problem with it. However, if it's a very large and powerful monopoly, that does seem like a form of censorship.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:43 PM
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17. I really have a problem with the definition of Libertarian.
When taking a quiz where my political compass was taken, I was left wing, but also Libertarian. I hate it because they have allowed the Right wing Republicans to play to their concerns about gun control and economics while ignoring many social concerns such as freedom of speech. They supposedly care so much about individual liberties, yet it is more than ok for big business to supress those liberties.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:03 PM
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19. It's frustrating!
Edited on Sun May-29-05 05:05 PM by Pushed To The Left
I respect libertarianism, but it is actually pretty one-dimensional when it comes to personal freedom. They don't want the government to take your freedom away (which is good), but they don't mind if anybody else takes your freedom away. For example, the conservative belief would be that somebody who smokes a joint during the weekend should go to jail and that his employer should be able to fire him. Libertarians think he has a right to smoke the joint, but that his employer should still be able to fire him for it. So this person's personal freedom is now up to his employer. My view is that this person should be able to smoke a joint, as long as he is staying home and not driving, and that his employer should NOT be able to fire him for what he does off the clock.

There is a talk show host out here by the name of Larry Elder. He was a member of the Libertarian party, but recently joined the Republican Party and voted for Bush in 2004. How can somebody who is supposed to be for less government vote for a member of the religious right? I think they are selling out bigtime. That's why I've been posting here so much about moderates and liberals banding together. Moderates and liberals have much more in common with eachother than libertarians do with the religious right!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:13 PM
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35. On the political compass, libertarianism doesn't mean the same thing
as the Libertarian party's form of libertarianism does.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/faq.php#libandleft
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:21 PM
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37. I know.
The more I look at Libertarians, the less truly libertarian they seem.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:16 PM
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2. I've been outa the loop
What's this in reference to?
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:18 PM
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5. Go to MichaelMoore.com
They're talking about it there.

http://www.michaelmoore.com

Check out the NIN article.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:21 PM
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9. or you could simply answer the question...
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:49 PM
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25. MTV's Movie Awards Wouldn't Let Trent Play The Show
if he had a big banner with Bush in the background while he played the song, The Hand That Feeds. It's a song against authority basically.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:16 PM
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3. Here's an english translation:
Edited on Sun May-29-05 04:19 PM by brainshrub
"I'm a dj on many alternative rock stations across the country."

English translation = "A huge corporation that supports Bush pays my bills, so I'm going to write this article to kiss up to my masters."
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:16 PM
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4. Oh, fuck her!
Edited on Sun May-29-05 04:20 PM by Cooley Hurd
Her iTunes membership should be revoked simply for being a dumbass...:eyes:

Edited to reflect the proper gender...:blush:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:18 PM
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6. I bet she really regrets giving Reznor that blow job back in 92
To hell with that lackey and her Clear Channel corporate masters
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:18 PM
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7. Lying sack of Bu$hit. This DJ is censoring music but will not justfy
Edited on Sun May-29-05 04:19 PM by Al-CIAda
why on air. I say go ahead, blast Trent. Tell your listeners WHY you refuse to play him. I DARE you.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:21 PM
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8. Some hack vocie tracker with NO control over music decisions
fuck off and die, asshat! :grr:
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:23 PM
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10. Damn, I'm sick of this meme
until this point have always been a huge supporter of Reznor and NIN. I was a fan before anyone knew who he was. I was one of the first program directors in the country to play NIN even when my bosses thought it sucked, I took the heat.

Yet another variation on the "I've always voted Democrat, but this latest move (Clinton's too-terrible to bear lies, the Democrats fillibustering judges, whatever) is just over the top, and now I'm afraid I'll just have to vote Republican" LTTE.

What crap. Anybody who was a NIN fan before this would hardly be shocked, shocked! that they would (gasp!) mix politics in with their performances.

Rhetoricians out there, isn't there a term for this now tired and over-worked approach that the wingnuts are so attached to?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:25 PM
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12. I agree, which is why I say this statement is a LIE. Pure propaganda. n/t
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:36 PM
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14. I happen to have been THE VERY FIRST PD to add a NIN record
BEFORE the album was released. Whowever this asshole is, they are a no body!!!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:11 PM
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22. I Laughed When I Saw That Line. I Laughed, Hard.
Edited on Sun May-29-05 05:13 PM by Crisco
"I was one of the first program directors in the country to play NIN even when my bosses thought it sucked."

In radio, usually, a real program director has one - that's one boss - their GM. Unless maybe you work for a multi-station corp. In that case, you're nothing more than a glorified music director.

NIN was first getting widespread airplay on commercial alternative stations in the summer of 1991. At that time, there were maybe three dozen commercial alternative stations in the whole of the US (if even that many), and only a small proportion of them were corporately-owned. But we're talking pre-1991, if DJ is saying he/she was one of the first.

And, did you notice how DJ said he/she would still play NIN, just not talk them up? Ain't it sad that this person took nothing from Trent's action of refusing to bow to the corporate masters?

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:59 PM
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27. That's like some
Edited on Sun May-29-05 05:59 PM by FreedomAngel82
tennie bopper who is pro-Bush listening to Green Day and claiming to be a fan since the beginning and then buying their "American Idiot" cd and finding out what the album is about and being shocked. LOL! Shows how much they know about the music. I bet you anything this DJ has no idea about anything with Nine Inch Nails. Neither do I, but I'm not going around claiming to be a fan since the beginning and crap.
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:07 PM
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34. yep, I thought the same thing. she's full of shit (nt)
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:23 PM
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11. And what the repugs will say.. just like the Dixie chicks..
they have the right to say it and the right to deal with what comes from saying it..
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:34 PM
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13. "public people shouldn't blatantly publicize their thoughts to the masses"
Edited on Sun May-29-05 04:35 PM by shadowknows69
but it's ok for the paparazzi to try to catch them coming out of the shower right? Hats off to Trent.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:09 PM
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20. And notice how she turns around and does the exact same thing?
Classic Repuke hypocricy. She should have shut up after blasting NIN for their politics, but then she went one and started espousing *her* politics.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:01 PM
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29. Of course
What else did you expect? And then she tried to educate people on middle eastern affairs. LOL! I bet she thinks the Iraqi's hit us on 9/11. :eyes:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:38 PM
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15. SO let me get this right, he thinks that public people shouldn't blatantly
publicize their thoughts to the masses, and he's proving his point by blatantly publicizing his thoughts to the masses?

Yup, he must be a Bush supporter. Only a Chimpbot could practice that level of doublethink.
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:54 PM
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18. Just To Make Sure People Know
DJ came back to the forum and said she wasn't boycotting the band. She's just not going to mention them anymore when she plays the song.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:07 PM
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32. which means her GM or PD said
This song is hot on the charts and you WILL be playing it.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:10 PM
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21. I would like to ask this DJ
"Why do I CARE about your opinion on Nine Inch Nails? I mean, really?"

And, the answer is, I don't.

Oh and public figures have freedom of speech just like ANYONE else, hate to tell these people. They only support freedom of speech for artists when it fits THEIR world view.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:03 PM
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30. Exactly
They have the first amendment too last time I looked. That's what really pisses me off. I could care less if some rightwing celebrity like Mel Gibson gets on tv and all that nonsense and talk about politics, so why should they care about other celebrities? They have that right. I bet if it was Toby Keith going around praising Bush and all that in his song's she'd gladly pump it up. :eyes:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:35 PM
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23. Good grief..........
I've always liked Nine Inch Nails (yes, even grandmas think that Trent Reznor rocks). Now I like him even more. You GO, Trent. Don't let them get you down.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:39 PM
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24. Well lucky for this asshole
he's got plenty of "approved music" he can play. I'm sure his alternative audience will just love Britney, Jessica, Aaron Carter and all those wonderful country acts that are pre-fab, and pre-approved. You know something else? I bet Trent Reznor and NiN could give less than a shit whether this guy mentiones them, plays them, or promotes them. Oh and by the way, whoever you are, you are not a DJ. You want to see a real DJ? Try Jim Ladds Theater of the Mind, or read his book Radio Kaos. You might learn something...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:56 PM
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26. LOL!!!
Edited on Sun May-29-05 05:56 PM by FreedomAngel82
She knows history?! LOL! What a dumbass! Oh and would she be saying the same things if it was an anti-Kerry or Clinton song? Probably not. :eyes: I get so sick of all these asses who have no problem proclaiming they're right and you're wrong but when a musician or actor/actress tells their opinins they tell them "shut up and entertain me." Jackass! Of course they don't do it when one is praising Bush or butting into a private personal family affair like Mel Gibson did with Terri Schavio. Oh no problem forcing their beliefs down people's throats at all! That's one of my biggest pet peeves.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:59 PM
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28. What's these "mass armies" she's blathering about?
In fact, if we’d have taken a few pople out back in the 70’s when we knew they had very bad, evil wishes for all citizens of the United States we wouldn’t have given them time to create, train, arm and fund the mass armies they have today

Err, Saddam had a big army which he used against the even bigger Iranian army and used that evil gas stuff on them and their Kurdish supporters which we sold to him.

WTF is she talking about?
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:07 PM
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31. Didn't The CIA Put Saddam In Power To Begin With During the 70's?
Edited on Sun May-29-05 06:08 PM by InfoMinister
We didn't destroy anything during that time because were too busy creating it in the first place. Not to mention the freedom fighters in Afghanistan we gave weapons to to fight off the Soviets.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:09 PM
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33. Who knows
:shrug: Goes to show how much history this person knows of the middle east. :eyes: If Saddam had a big army why are we training their police to be military that will take about four-five years?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:19 PM
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36. But she'll fawn over Kid Rock and his pro-* BS?
:eyes:


Damn hypocrites.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:40 PM
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38.  NIN ROCKS keep Raging against the Machine Trent.
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