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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:00 PM
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Could we get the UN to take over in Iraq?
Edited on Mon May-30-05 12:01 PM by Hippo_Tron
We all know that the current US strategy in Iraq (or there lack of) isn't working. Training the Iraqi security forces keeps getting delayed and delayed and delayed which means that Bush refuses to set a date in which he will start withdrawing troops.

The problem is that the troops being in Iraq is what is causing the insurgency. They are hostile to having American tanks and American guns in the streets of their cities. To quote our idiot in chief "They don't like that they're occupied". The big question is, if we pulled out, would the insurgents try to overthrow the government? Bush obviously seems to think so, and on that point I agree. Although, Bush would have us believe that they want to overthrow the government because they hate freedom and democracy. I'll agree that they hate freedom and democracy but I don't think that, that's why they want to overthrow the government; they want to overthrow it because it is a Bush puppet regime and everybody knows it.

Obviously it isn't a good thing if Al-Zarqawi violently overthrows the government and installs another dictator (although that would certainly make America realize how stupid Bush is and how pointless this war is), but is preserving "democracy" worth the thousands of American and Iraqi lives that have and will continue to die for it?

My question is, could we pull our troops out of Iraq and ask the UN to come in and take over the security role and the oversight of the creation of their government. Will the insurgents be less hostile to UN peacekeeping forces than to US troops? Will they be less likely to overthrow the government if the UN is overseeing its creation so that they know that it is not a Bush puppet regime?

And I guess more importantly, would the UN even be willing to takeover this quagmire that we have created?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:01 PM
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1. Yeah, I'm sure Bolton will talk them into it.
They have such respect for him and all.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:01 PM
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2. It's all hypothetical considering that this will never happen under *
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:01 PM
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3. Too late. The UN wants nothing to do with that mess.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:05 PM
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4. We have tried to get them to take over - in Bush's horrible, untactful
way - and they said no.

We ignored and belittled them and then had to go whining to them for help - and of course it didn't work.

That is why Bush wants to put Bolton in there - to get revenge - in other words - typical George. Repulsive man.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:10 PM
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5. The rest of the world
America is like a big, drunk 15 year old kid, bullying his way around the schoolyard and creating mayhem. Now that he has puked all over himself, and hammered on many, making enemies from friends, one should hardly expect a group hug followed by a warm bath drawn so he can freshen up while the rest of the world cleans up the mess in a crossfire.

It will never happen.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:15 PM
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7. Well put. n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:14 PM
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6. If we asked, the UN would laugh
remember that Bushco hasn't treated the UN all that well, what with going in unilaterally and not allowing UN weapons inspectors to finish their job, etc. etc. No, I fear we are stuck in Iraq until we retreat-and then I fear chaos will erupt.
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