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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:21 PM
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Snitching is here : Homeland Security Raids Seattle Bar
I found this in the Queen Anne News paper. This is scary stuff. I have been here before. This is a must read, read the whole story at the links below.

snipet:
"Police and agents from the FBI and Homeland Security descended on the Mecca Café and Bar in Lower Queen Anne on Friday afternoon in search of a potential terrorist, according to numerous sources and the FBI.

The subject of the search is a longtime regular at the bar on Queen Anne Avenue North half a block south of Mercer Street, but the man still isn't sure why the war on terrorism took such a personal term for him around 1 p.m. that day.

He knows it had something to do several cellphone conversations he made while sitting in a booth on the restaurant side, said the man, who prefers to remain anonymous."

link : http://www.zwire.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=14625150&BRD=855&PAG=461&dept_id=513931&rfi=6

or just go to http://www.queenannenews.com it is on the front page


Things are getting out of control. I can't believe someone actually called the FBI in a restaraunt while hearing someone talk on their cellphone. People are so bitter and hateful these days that all they have to do is snitch on others!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:23 PM
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1. I'm surprised the FBI acted on it.
Shouldn't they have done some preliminary double checking?
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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:24 PM
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2. have to have a password try this link
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:32 PM
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3. try
going to bugmenot.com
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:33 PM
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4. Interesting. FYI, you can get IDs/passwords for many sites at
http://bugmenot.com/view.php

bugme / not worked just fine at this site.
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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:35 PM
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5. help
not sure what to do, do I just list the login and password here? or is there a link that bugmenot gives me. I registerd the site and nothing happened. thanks
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:54 PM
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7. Here's how to use bugmenot:
You click on a link that takes you to some web site that wants you to register to get into their site. Registration is nothing more than you giving out personal information. One of those pieces is your email address. (Mysteriously, spam begins appearing in your inbox.)

I'm a paranoid SOB & resist giving out any information when I'm surfing. Just clicking on a web site gives them lots of good info, but I'm not gonna get into that right now.

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It may sound complicated, but it's actually quite simple. One or two times & you'll be a pro.



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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:58 PM
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9. were you able to view the whole thing
did you get to the whole article with the last link I provided? can I just post the whole article here?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:44 PM
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10. I got the whole article using the bugmenot login info.
I think copyright laws prevent you from posting the whole article.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:54 PM
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6. While I'd like to see cell phone clods areested
this does seem a bit excessive.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:56 PM
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8. A radical muslim in a bar?
What's wrong with that picture?
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:00 PM
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11. I always assume that someone is listening in on cell phones
even though it is physically impossible for all calls to be monitored -- however after growing up on secure military bases and getting sermons about being careful what you say 'cause you never know who the enemy is -- I self censor.

This turns out not to be a delusional or paranoid habit -- because in fact Hitler/bush has turned nearly the whole population into spies. So even the most innocent conversation can be misunderstood by the wingnuts.

Post 9-11 -- one thing about flying -- everyone looks at their neighbor -- and most all other passengers are studied for "terrorist's" clues. I've seen people looking at each other -- or sneaking peeks -- could that person be a "terrorist?"

There is a vast mistrust of the "other" -- and in the highly mobile culture -- especially the huge metro areas where few know their neighbors -- any strange overheard conversation can be translated into one of "those" terrorist's.

Also -- the sanity of the tipster isn't reviewed -- everyone is the enemy under the GOPigs view of the masses. Nixon held this view as did Governor Ray-gun (and he carried his distrust of the masses when he became Prez Ray-gun).

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:07 PM
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12. "physically impossible for all calls to be monitored" - not true
if it traverses a digital network they can easily be monitored. (i say in my best strangelovian accent)

it is all automated until you are TARGETED/FLAGGED, based on a computer algorithm, then they let human Intel take over.

the thing is... there isn't enough humans to monitor anyone in a realistic way so invest in prison camp stock because they can't take any chances in our 911 world :scared:

will our leaders RESIST expansion of the 'PATRIOT ACT' or will they get PUNKED :shrug:

let's ask them nicely to resist ;->

peace
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