Has anyone done research on the "Third Way?"

[kanrok]

It seems that Rahm Emmanuel is a proponent, and he's backing Clark. It appears to be an organ for the DLC. What's the idea here?

[catzies]

1. Rahm Emanuel was a Clinton staffer.

What did Google tell you about the Third Way?

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Biggest UK proponent of 'Third Way' is Blair (n/t)

[kanrok]

4. Here's what the DLC site says

The Third Way
The Third Way is a global movement dedicated to modernizing progressive politics for the information age. Third Way politics seeks a new balance of economic dynamism and social security, a new social compact based on individual rights and responsibilities, and a new model for governing that equips citizens and communities to solve their own problems...

www.ndol.org

[Maple]

2. Europe and Canada

use the 'Third Way'

It uses both capitalism and socialism in operation

Public when that's best

Private when that works.

Practical solutions to problems, without ideology.

[whirlygigspin]

6. the third way

met the third rail a few years ago.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Blair And Schroeder Are Still In Power...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. The Third Way

It's major proponents are Tony Blair, Gerhard Schroeder, and Bill Cinton...

Third Wayers believe that the far left and the far right have failed and it's time for new solutions.

Third Wayers accept the goals of the traditional left but reject the means the traditional left used to achieve them...

They are much more market oriented then their leftist predecessors....

I don't have much problem with the Third Way because Bill Clinton is preferable to George Bush, Gerhard Schroeder is preferable to Helmut Kohl, and Tony Blair is preferable to John Major...

To me Third Way=Neo-Liberal..

[jonnyblitz]

9. yeah...one step up is better than nothing i suppose.

Sounds like a diluted version of the same old crap to me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. It's Welfare State Liberalsim In A New Package

NT

[jonnyblitz]

15. yup...that's what i was thinking.

it's what we have anyway. this is new?

[aneerkoinos]

17. Let me just ask

I absolutely agree Third Way = Neo-Liberal, but really, you don't have much problem with Neo-Liberalism (=19th century capitalism), in US also known as Neo-Conservatism?

Please, take a look at América! That's where the new tide is rising, with Chavez and Lula and other new popular leaders expressing the will of masses. Take a good look at Porto Allegro, the most democratic place in the world, the birth place of World Social Forums. Other kind of world is possible!

Here's one book I recommend: Hilary Wainwright: Reclaim the state - experiments in popular democracy. (Verso 2003, ISBN 1-84984-689-0)

[Terwilliger]

19. neoliberal == BAAAAAD

but thats just me, and I dont count!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. Wasn't Qadhafi the one who coined this term?

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8744/readgb.htm

It's true, there is nothing new under the sun.

[Maple]

10. Thomas Aquinas

used the phrase first:

http://www.quinion.com/words/turnsofphrase/tp-thi2.htm

Canada has used the method itself since the 60's

[rogerashton]

11. There are many "third ways."

A mixture of capitalism and goverment isn't a third way, however -- it is a mixture of two ways.

[the_real_38]

13. I think in this speech, Clinton lays out some of ...

... his allegiance to the Third Way:

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2002/12/06/clinton/index.html

[aneerkoinos]

14. Third way

is basically defeatist idealogy, "progressives" who have no answers to challenges presented by Thatcherism, neoliberalism and IMF run capitalist globalization. It's left selling out, just to grab power for powers sake but to do nothing that might upset the their corporate masters / establishment. Political movement that promises to do the same what Thatcher and Raygun did but with smiling, more "humane" face and lot of sweet talking (spin). Unca Tom's approach, or one could maybe parallel it to Stalinism with human face of Checkoslovakia pre 1968, only that it is much worse of course.

Fuck them, let's start Socialist Green revolution with our brothers and sisters in Third World!

[jonnyblitz]

16. sign me up!

:hi:

[aneerkoinos]

18. It's a revolution without leaders

and only relatively few "bureaucratic" guidelines ;). Why don't you start it yourself in your hometown/state/country/continent by calling together a Social Forum, or pack your rucksack and head to India:
http://www.wsfindia.org/

Here's the WSF "official" website:
http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/home.asp

And here's the "guideline" for organizing your own Social Forum:
http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/main.asp?id_menu=4&cd_language=2