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LiberalUprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:54 PM
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US media: We tried to warn you!
We did, of course. Many of us who cover the region—along with the CIA and the State Department and the uniformed military—have been warning for at least a year that occupying Iraq would be a dirty, costly, long and dangerous job.
The problem is not really that the public was misinformed by the press before the war, or somehow denied the truth afterward. The problem is that Americans just can’t believe their eyes.


http://www.msnbc.com/news/969219.asp
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:56 PM
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1. I put much of the blame on the media!
They lied, lied, lied and covered up for the unelected resident!
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:03 PM
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3. I can't
believe this. The media was in the drivers seat in this massacre/war.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:57 PM
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2. "The problem is not really that the public was misinformed"
I beg to differ.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:06 PM
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4. Jesus
I just want America to be a strong country that everyone else looks up to. Is that so much to ask for?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:41 AM
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19. er, that's irony, right?
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:09 PM
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5. where were the headlines?
I am still waiting for the headlines. That is when I will start to relax a little bit.

The media is 100% culpable in this entire fiasco. This never, ever, would have happened if the media did their job.

I'm not saying every reporter failed, but certainly the publishers and editors failed.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:13 PM
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6. While this is true...
And I know that for a fact because I was a complete supporter of the president's invasion of Iraq, I still believe the defense department is filled with morons. Looking back I wouldn't have supported a war with Iraq unless Paul Wolfowitz resigned.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:21 PM
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7. Remember to rate this!
SOME of the media tried to warn us, or else we and the rest of the world couldn't have figured it out-we did believe our eyes.

So props to those who are speaking out now-better late than never.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:37 PM
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9. good point
those who said the truth--thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:13 AM
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21. It sure as hell wasn't MSNBC!
The US media worked against us with a fury. The ONLY news that came out was from other independent sources on the internet. Don't let them get away with this shit. They belong on the dock for treason along with the Bush Crime Family...they ARE part of the Bush Crime Family.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:35 PM
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8. For the most part
DUers can say "I told you so" to all of this

Because we did
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:52 AM
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10. Bullshit
Bullshit
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:56 AM
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15. Care to elaborate?
I mean, there are far too many of us to ever say we were unanimous in anything but things are about what I expected, and posted. Many others did as well. What's bullshit exactly?
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:56 AM
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11. The Media Knows Dimbo Is Going Down
And are trying to spin themselves out of the mess. Well, its not working on me as I have a shortwave radio and listen to real journalists and honest news.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:59 AM
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12. Yep ! we were a " fringe" "focus group"
(heavy on the sarcasm)
I mean what would a group of passionate patriotic caring
American news junkie/ political junkie / history studying
liberal/progressives know anyway ?
(end sarcasm)

I still have a bone to pick with Aaron Brown ,
I specifically warned him of what was going on right
now . Especially about the troops not coming home .
I asked him when would he believe us ?

He did reply with a snotty answer ..Well
I hope he thinks about my warning to him .
And remembers it's never to late to do what is right.
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Bush_has_Parvo Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:27 AM
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13. riiiiight. I remember all those skeptical and questioning headlines
I remember that farce of a "press conference" just before the war, and the tough question I remember most? "Mr. President, how does your faith get you thru these tough times?" Hardhitting!!. I remember how Colin Powell brought his bogus "evidence" to the UN and boy--the Press were so hard on him!! And just about 2 months ago, for a few days, they were oh so close to calling him a liar for the bogus claims in his SOTU speech! Yeah, I guess we just deluded ourselves into believing the whole rational for this war. Good thing we have our crack press corp rooting out the lies and corruption.

sickeningly bitter sarcasm <off>
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:01 AM
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16. and the discussions about whether the US should go to war at all.
after all, that's what liberal media do: ask critical questions.
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Bush_has_Parvo Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:42 AM
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14. kick for the sheer hubris of this article
:kick:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:12 AM
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17. The very existence of truthout
and its 10 stories every single day proves this point.

But that is the print media, and there are 100,000,000 other stories besides the truthout 10.

And then there is the television, which did not warn us at all. Most Americans get their news, and their entertainment, and their God, from the television. It didn't warn us.

We're not readers, sadly.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:13 AM
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18. I fart in your direction.
What a load.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:55 AM
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20. I just returned from Europe, the contrast in media is boggling!
I was in Zurich and only had three English speaking channels. All were great, yet the contrast between CNN and CNN/International was UNREAL! I loved Christiane Ammanpour's show on Journalism. I was not in my hotel room much but the few minutes here and there surpassed all of the propaganda shown here over the last three years. I need to get a dish!
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