DSM Hearing Thread 1

[unhappycamper]

Let's use this for comments, OK?

[Cooley Hurd]

1. Comment #1 - Has it started? CSPAN3 isn't showing it.

:shrug:

[Goldmund]

2. 2:30

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Thanks - I kept reading 2pm on several threads today...

:thumbsup:

[Goldmund]

8. It was supposed to be 2,

but then they moved it, I believe -- I'm at work but I read it on DU.

[Rainscents]

4. Someone please post link to c-span 3 vidoe caption?

[Triana]

6. here:

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

[Rainscents]

71. Thank you!

[LifeDuringWartime]

7. C-SPAN3 Video

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Rainscents]

77. Thank you!

[Blue Belle]

87. Is anyone else having trouble..

witht he real player feed freezing up?? I had to switch to c-span radio because the feed kept freezing on the video.

[LifeDuringWartime]

105. not me

i started streaming at 2:00 in case there would be problems

[BurtWorm]

5. Pardon my ignorant question: Who is going to testify?

How will they get information out of this hearing? Or is it intended to get info?

[rodeodance]

9. oh for heaven's sake!!--there is a bigger thread over in gen politics.

[goodhue]

10. Among those speaking at the hearings will be . . .

Among those speaking at the hearings will be:
Joe Wilson, Former Ambassador and Africa Expert; Ray McGovern, 27-year CIA analyst who prepared regular Presidential briefings during the Reagan administration; Cindy Sheehan, mother of fallen American soldier; John Bonifaz, renowned constitutional lawyer and co-founder of AfterDowningStreet.org.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=155

(This info is from last Friday. There is probably a more current lineup).

[medeak]

13. Medea Benjamin and Tom Hayden

can hear the freepers already.

[goodhue]

16. They are speaking at the rally, not the hearings

[uppityperson]

12. Watch and see

or check out one of the other multiple thread on this. Or Conyers website. Or Michael Moore's. Or Will Pitts. or other place.

[nittygritty]

11. CSPAN Radio link:

CSPAN Radio page link:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR

[proud patriot]

14. Here we go

Listening on KPFA now :

[deutsey]

15. Conyers is starting the hearing

[AFSCME girl]

17. Please keep us cube rats posting..

on everything that happens...........

[chopper]

18. here's a link to a real player live stream...

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

click on CSPAN3 (listen)

[AFSCME girl]

32. Thank you, Chopper!

Unfortunately, "WebSense" is blocking me from streaming x(

[Beaverhausen]

40. Thanks for that link!

:hi:

[fla nocount]

84. Try the RP "listen" function on the C-Span 3 link

It cleared up the problem for me and I use dial-up. It only takes a pause when I click back and forth to DU

[LifeDuringWartime]

19. witnesses just sworn in

John Bonifast - attorney
Ray McGovern - former CIA
Cindy Sheehan - mother of soldier killed in Iraq - Gold Star Families for Peace
Joseph Wilson - former ambassador

[BurtWorm]

38. I wish they could lure a Feith or a Bolton into the room.

That would make news. A confrontation would be stunning. But of course, the Republicans know better than to help Democrats make news. They'll just have to ask these uncomfortable questions in their committees as the opportunity arises.

[AFSCME girl]

42. Thank you, LifeDuringWarTime...

These updates are MUCH, MUCH appreciated. "WebSense" is not allowing me to stream anything x(

[LifeDuringWartime]

60. my pleasure!

Wilson is describing, at extensive detail and length, about the Yellow Cake Uranium ordeal.

Urged White House for 3 months to correct the SOTU statement.

[LifeDuringWartime]

29. PDAmerica Blog

by William Pitt: http://blog.pdamerica.org/

[redacted]

20. Does anyone know abt the Rally, did it happen? How did it go? NT

[Viva_La_Revolution]

rally is after the hearing...nt

[redacted]

31. THX, is anyone covering it?

[goodhue]

26. Rally is in Lafayatte Square Park at 5:00 eastern

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=155

Later on the same day at 5:00 p.m. ET in Lafayette Square Park, in front of the White House, a large rally will support Congressman Conyers who plans to deliver to the White House a letter addressed to President Bush and signed by over 500,000 Americans and at least 94 Congress Members. The letter asks the President to respond to questions raised by the Downing Street Minutes.

[brainshrub]

21. And awayyyyyy we go.

Wow, what a small room! It looks like a budget-hotel.

I wouldn't care if the meeting was held in a broom closet, you don't need a nice room to tell the truth.

[doublethink]

45. Yea small room .....

I had the same reaction, but it looks like they have a 'packed ' house .....I kinda like the setting after seeing the news cameras in the room, now. :)

[orleans]

22. introducing three people

third one is joe wilson
on edit: last one introduced, first to speak; joe wilson is testifying now

[Just Me]

23. Checking in. Conyers had the witnesses take oathes!!!

:hi:

[LightningFlash]

Its in the official record....My god here it says...

"Weapons of mass destruction, would kill AMERICANS..."

Dear god..... :wow:

[leftchick]

24. Does anyone know of a list of speakers?

please? :)

[sabra]

41. here

Conyers, John Jr., U.S. Representative, D-MI
Bonifaz, John C., Founder, National Voting Rights Institute
Wilson, Joseph, Deputy Chief of Mission (1988-91), Iraq
McGovern, Ray, Member, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Sheehan, Cindy, Founder, Gold Star Families for Peace

[leftchick]

49. thank you sabra!

:hi:

[meganmonkey]

25. When they introduced it they called it a 'hearing - or rather, a meeting'

Pathetic.

[LightningFlash]

58. Joe Wilson says....

"It was then that I realized the White House was basing its claims on the forged documents of Niger."

They lied and forced him to play along, this is disgusting

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[LightningFlash]

Geezus christ...

"The act of war is the last action that should be taken. The next day, the White House awcknowledged that it had already made decision for war. The case was weak, and the american intelligence community believed the British had exaggerated the claim."

"The american community believed that the British exaggerated the case for weapons in Niger."

"At the same time, the administration decided to discredit and slander Joe's name as well as forcing him out. The fact is the intelligence and facts were fixed around the policy. We're having this discussion today that we didn't have two years ago. The Downing Street minutes confirm that the administration has been less than candid with Congress, just as they had been with me."

"If the administration circumvented that decision before going to war with Iraq, the public must understand why this decision was made. Especially so another war does not come. There is no reason to believe our departure now or 5 years from now, reduce that violence."

[ThomWV]

27. I'm Having To Constantly Restart It

There must be a lot of Traffic.

[chalky]

34. I thought it was just me.

I wish I had access to CSPAN-3 on TV.

[rodeodance]

57. me too as it abrutly stops.

[holboz]

Switched to just listening to audio - much better quality

[indy_azcat]

28. Ambassador Wilson speaking now

n/t

[indy_azcat]

33. beginning w/ Niger and "supposed" yellow cake, etc.

and a SNAP to Bob Novak - nyah!

[Just Me]

35. Re Niger (yellow cake allegations).

[sabra]

30. Wilson: the team I have always played for is America!

great line

[Just Me]

47. Allegations his wife sent him were untrue (of course).

Gawd, those fabricating bastards ought to ALL go to jail!!!

[Just Me]

63. Niger docs administration produced were a fraud (of course).

Everything that this administration produces is a fraud. This administration is a fraud! :grr:

[irancontra]

36. watching

also this is the second link on CNN homepage ...shocker.
www.cnn.com

[deutsey]

37. delete

I'm not sure I heard that correctly...distracted a little with work

[LightningFlash]

39. Joe Wilson speaking NOW!!!!!!

http://www.pacifica.org/

He was asked to....Oh my god....."After the meeting I was asked to find the WMD nuclear weapons in Niger...I was asked to lie and create false intelligence."

Holy crap.....And its credible!!!! And if he went to pass lie detector, he would pass!!!

:wow: :wow:

[LifeDuringWartime]

43. Niger, not Nigeria

n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

THAT alone should take down this administration!

I hope Nightline has that statement on the record!

[redacted]

44. Sad that a man with his service record has to start by defending himself

and how he got the job.

[LifeDuringWartime]

81. just now got to DSM

"clear that we went to war under dubious pretenses" (paraphrased)

[orleans]

46. i keep waiting for sensenbrenner to run in the room

and turn the mics off

[Goldmund]

50. LOL

:rofl:

[rhett o rick]

128. Don't you mean, "march into the room"? nt

[Amonester]

48. I've got the video but not the audio (I'm at work).

Brief written comments about what is being said needed, please!

BIG THANKS!

GO CONYERS!!

:applause:

[Hissyspit]

51. I have no video, TV or radio. Updates much appreciated! nt

[Kevin Spidel]

55. go to blog.pdamerica.org for live reports n/t

[Hissyspit]

68. Thanks! That's all I've got. No audio here in the library. n/t

[Amonester]

86. Ok! Thanks, Kevin. I'm going there and I'm freeing the video

stream at C-SPAN 3 for someone else who can both view an hear Mr. Wilson.

[Dawgs]

52. Not getting audio either, help please...

thanks!!

[G_j]

61. radio link

http://kpfa.org/

[indy_azcat]

53. wilson still setting up his position

not a WMD expert BUT an expert in Uranium mining.

No chance of Niger selling.

Now on the '02 State Dept. white paper that Saddam had no disclosed all weapons info to UN

[soup]

66. Wilson mentions this article

Published on Sunday, July 6, 2003 by the New York Times
What I Didn't Find in Africa
by Joseph C. Wilson 4th


Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?

Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

[Mabus]

65. I called Conyers office and said "thank you"

[phone] (http://www.house.gov/conyers/) to do the same.

[AFSCME girl]

158. Hi Mabus,

I'm gonna email his office right now!! This whole thing is so AWESOME!!

:bounce:

[redacted]

54. The room seems tiny. How insulting. NT

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. basement, calculated insult

[doublethink]

88. Louder !!!!!

That only means we have to scream Louder from the basement for Democracy to be heard! I'm game. These bastard fascists aren't gonna keep this basement quiet. :grr: Peace. :)

[Twist_U_Up]

78. still better than the DNC

and a nice little starting point for a huge story.

This will be in the history books

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. Going for pacifica radio lnk

C-SPAN video keep droping and now pacifica

Servers are getting swampped

[indy_azcat]

62. pacifica back up

eta - Pacifica OK :D

[nittygritty]

82. all you need is Realplayer or Windows Media Player

to hear CSPAN Radio stream:

CSPAN Radio page:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR

[kaitykaity]

70. yeah it did. and yeah they are.

I'd love to know how many people are
listening to this.

[indy_azcat]

59. Non-audio peeps, also check Will Pitt's blog at PDA

http://blog.pdamerica.org/

[faithnotgreed]

69. good idea nt

[faithnotgreed]

67. joseph wilson still speaking/giving outline of his experience

in the run up to the war. an expert on niger and even though he is not cia agent he is expert on niger and extensive experience with mining which is very related because of uranium, yellow cake claim

named novak as the one who "compromised" his wife valeries cia status

[deutsey]

76. Thanks for confirming the Plame info

That's what I thought I heard, but I deleted my post because I am distracted with work as I listen and wasn't 100% sure I heard that correctly.

[faithnotgreed]

79. "were having this discussion today because we did not have it 3 yrs ago"

perfect

[Just Me]

72. Was this a war based upon false pretenses?

Yup!

[geomon666]

73. Yeesh....they showed a wide shot of the room.

It looks more like my apartment with tables set up around. What goes around comes around Sensenbrenner you pig.

[Kevin Spidel]

74. Conyers left the room to bring in 2 more Congress Members!

what a guy!

[Beaverhausen]

85. What congressmembers are already there?

Is there a list somewhere?

thanks.

[Kevin Spidel]

90. CBC Members...

Waters, and Barney Frank, Jim Merran (sp) (VA) , James McDermott (sp) Sheila Jackson Lee... others i cant tell.

[understandinglife]

Just called Congressman McDermott's office and offered my thanks...

... for his being there. Cindy Sheehan -- I am so broken hearted for that woman and all the others - parents, children, soldiers......

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4173.htm


WE THE PEOPLE .... WILL NEVER FORGET

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.

[Solly Mack]

75. He called Chucklenuts "Mr Bush" (I really enjoy it when people do that)

verbally strip him of the title President.

[indy_azcat]

80. Wilson: what the RW and Republicans have done to damage my family

is nothing compared to what they have done to the soldiers

[Sydnie]

91. He was wonderful!!!

He told it like it was and is both from the perspective of then and the perspective of now.

[rodeodance]

102. a mom (of trooper Casey)--who was killed in the invasion is talking. sad.

[rodeodance]

109. says that if DSm is true he and thousands of others would be alive.

[rodeodance]

113. "the leaders of this country lead us into an illegal war based on cherry-

picking intel" WHOW!! what an opening.

[steve2470]

83. will there be a transcript of this later on ? nt

[unhappycamper]

103. I think you can count on a transcript going up soon after the hearing.

eom

[Hissyspit]

89. "We are having this debate now because we didn’t have it three years ago"

YES! On the record.

[Skidmore]

92. Wanna bet that any legislator not on the floors of Congress

are now glued to a teevee in their offices?

Betcha Novak comes up with something snide later today. Thank goodness that Crossfire is gone.

[nadinbrzezinski]

93. Gold star mother

for those who miss it, she lost a kid in war

[The Witch]

101. What was that noise?

What was the noise that distracted her?

note: Leave your name(s) here if you want to be on a poster to be held up at the 5 pm rally

[LifeDuringWartime]

126. sounded like a cell phone on speaker phone mode

heard the nextel two-way radio bleep

[Lecky]

184. Yes,

I'd like to know as well.

[Just Me]

110. I'm already crying,...

,...oh, gawd, the heartbreak suffered by those whom this administration betrayed. :cry:

[Beaverhausen]

94. She is going to have us all in tears

:cry:

[Hissyspit]

97. Thanks for the UPDATES!

Greatly appreciated.

[faithnotgreed]

104. this entire thing is heartbreaking... what a dear woman speaking out

for truth and justice
describing her son casey who was killed 4/4/04
his birth and a photo

now describing bush and his declarations that he wants to be seen as commander in chief and calling him out on his words that he wanted to be cic (go to war) even before he became president

when a president lies to congress its a serious offense
deceive the world

[G_j]

107. she spoke at a rally here and everyone was in tears

got to give her a big hug afterwards :hug:

[kaitykaity]

108. Too late.

Going to be blubbering soon.

[Sydnie]

114. Pass the tissues!

She is right on the mark. I never heard that quote about Gov. blivet** and papas' "polital capital" before.

[kaitykaity]

95. Joe Wilson -- Bushies

fucked with the wrong man.

Goosebumps here.

[orleans]

96. maxine waters is there, barney frank

sheila jackson lee from tx is there also

there is major audio interference going on--stopped now

[indy_azcat]

98. intro'd other members

forgive the spellin':
Waters - ca
frank - ma
moran - va
Tierney - ma
jackson-lee - tx
McDermot - wa

edit: sorry Tierney :P

[in_cog_ni_to]

99. Cindy Sheehan!

:hug: G-d love her. My heart breaks for her!

[Solly Mack]

100. Ok. I'm in tears now

[Hissyspit]

106. What's she saying?!

:P

[orleans]

116. talking about when her son was a baby

and what she was thinking when she saw him in his "premature coffin"

[in_cog_ni_to]

118. She just showed a pic of her dead son when he was a baby.

He was sucking on 2 fingers and she said he ALWAYS sucked on those 2 fingers when he was a baby. She asked if anyone knew what it was like to see their baby in his premature coffin? :cry: My word. :cry:

[Solly Mack]

Speaking of her son...showing a picture from when he was 7 months old

talking about burying a child prematurely...her son had that same picture in his wallet the day he died.

How he was born, her son, with a flat face('cause of birth canal)....how he again had a "flat" face in his coffin...

[fla nocount]

112. Me to. n/t

[indy_azcat]

111. Sheehan of www.gsfp.org up

talking about soldier-son

[rodeodance]

117. "my body Casey given a premature death sentence" says mom.

[rodeodance]

121. mom says--Have you ever seen your dead son laying in his casket?

[rodeodance]

125. mom talking about a troop who hung himself--after returning to the states.

[rodeodance]

130. I want to see Casy's mom testimony on the FRONT page of every major

newspapers!!

[rodeodance]

mom says Casy died to feed the war machine.

[rodeodance]

wants an investigation into the DSM--to right the wrongs of the dead troop

s.

[rodeodance]

151. asks how many other families will get visit for from the Grime Reeper!!

[rodeodance]

160. wants the investigation so that 'they' are held accountable!! whow.

[deutsey]

119. I wonder how the RW is going to smear her?

Pigs.

[nadinbrzezinski]

129. I could give you a taste

as I have become an expert on how they work

Start with the ever so popular she is unamerican...

And yes they are pigs

[holboz]

167. Freepers have already smeared her

I remember reading on a thread one freeper speculated that Casey must be looking down at his mom and being really pissed off because she was so-called "demoralizing the troops" or belittling their efforts.

Same sort of shite they were saying of Tillman's parents.

[deutsey]

177. Yeah, military families should just shut up and be venerated

:puke:

[DistressedAmerican]

190. The Worst Kind!!!

:grr:

[Hissyspit]

The answer to any of it is "This military has been misused and abused..."

"This DEMOCRACY has been misused and abused. American people have been misused and abused."

[Hissyspit]

120. This isn't on NPR, by any chance? nt

[deutsey]

132. I checked their site and didn't see anything announcing coverage

I would hope that they'll cover it on All Things Considered.

[Hissyspit]

168. They mentioned it on Morning Edition.

[cynatnite]

115. Bless You, Cindy!!

Quoted bush's desire to finish the job in '99!

[AllyCat]

Part about the soldier who killed himself on arriving home

is just horrible. The vision she created of the man's father holding his body after cutting him down from a garden hose in the garage is just devastating.

And for what, Shrub? Jerk!

[meganmonkey]

122. "Too many will come home missing parts of their souls and humanity"

:cry:

[Twist_U_Up]

135. Shes one tough woman

I couldn`t get all that out without breaking down .

[faithnotgreed]

123. she is relating a soldiers words to her " where is the urgency

of going to war"

there are so many other reasons why we we are going

[Sydnie]

140. those were the words of another gold star father

He wrote that to her in a letter.

[indy_azcat]

124. reading another parent's letter

son hung himself w/ garden hose while on leave from Iraq

[indy_azcat]

138. I believe Casey (her son) has died to further line the pockets

of the already wealthy and further the warmongering machine.

[AirAmFan]

127. What a great start! The 1st 2 witnesses have unique "standing" to talk

about how WH lies have devasteted them PERSONALLY!

Cindy Sherman makes a GREAT witness. Her speech is vivid (though a little sing-song), and holding up her dead son's baby picture was heart-rending.

[Hissyspit]

144. They are filling in background up to DSM discussion. nt

[fla nocount]

131. Cindy covers all the bases. MSM blackout on flag draped coffins.

Called his death a murder.

[eek]

145. any MSM on this?

I'm so excited/furious/scared/etcetcetc


These are the heroes.

[mzmolly]

133. "I belive that Casey and his buddies have been killed to line the pockets

of already wealthy people." ~ Cindy Sheehan

[Kevin Spidel]

134. next time they pan to conyers....

look who is behind him ;)

Tom Hayden ;) PDA Co-Founder!

[in_cog_ni_to]

153. Thanks! Will do! n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

194. Cool!

:)

[orleans]

136. how many signatures are on Conyer's petition??? n/t

[sabra]

155. over 550k

[Goldmund]

156. Something like 550 K

[unhappycamper]

159. Citizens: 553,00; I think 108 congress critters signed on n/t

[LifeDuringWartime]

162. 530,000 +

n/t

[AFSCME girl]

137. Thank you so much for all the updates...

My fellow DU'ers ROCK!! :yourock:

[Amonester]

150. THX from moi 2!

:yourock:

[G_j]

139. she calls her son's death murder n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

141. "Our family has been devastated by his MURDER."

Bush MURDERED her son and she knows it.

[faithnotgreed]

142. casey and other soldiers died to line the pockets of those already wealthy

cindy sheehan says this

calling for this investigation into dsm
needless avoidable deaths

full investigation no matter democrat or republican
innocents in iraq are shedding buckets full of blood and they dont care about partisan politics

how many more will get visit from grim reaper dressed in military uniform

eta: spelling

[faithnotgreed]

148. government "abandoned constitution and the american people" nt

[TayTay]

169. This is the congressional equivalent of

Kerry's testimony in '71. Everyone riveted to listen to those who know what the hell they re talking about.

[deutsey]

143. These hearings will determine whether truth matters to us anymore

as a nation.

[faithnotgreed]

171. and also whether the constitution matters

youre right on

[uppityperson]

146. Doesn't matter if repub or dem, deserve investigation

go Cindy Sheehan

[Goldmund]

147. "How many more families will get a visit from the Grim Reaper...

...dressed in a US military uniform?"

[Goldmund]

170. "I was able to get through the entire testimony without using any...

...profanity"

[Beaverhausen]

149. "a visit from the "Grim Reaper" dressed in a military uniform"

YOU GO CINDY!!! :hug:

[Solly Mack]

152. Cindy Sheehan is wonderful

[brainshrub]

154. Cindy Sheehan said "murder."

The implication is that she feels that the Bush Administration murdered her son. This is the first time I've heard a parent who has lost a child in Iraq call it a murder.

[Beaverhausen]

165. She actually blamed Paul Bremner for inciting the violence that day

She's one courageous woman!

[indy_azcat]

166. say mod - can we start a new thread whenever this one gets huge?

n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

176. She said pre-meditated murder. She has me in tears here n/t.

[fla nocount]

157. "How many more must bury a child?" n/t

[rodeodance]

173. mom says she will not use swear words out of respect to Conyers.

[rodeodance]

179. mom asks the committee to please try to hold someone accountable.

[rodeodance]

182. whow--she was great!!

[rodeodance]

191. Mcgovern playing past clips of Powell and Condi--in summer of 2002

saying SH was not a threat--then story abruptly changed--a few months later--all of a sudden SH was a threat to his neighbors and to others--the Us--asks how do we explain this? says the DSM's help to explain this phenomena

[kaitykaity]

161. Ripping into Congress.

"Do your duty."

[meganmonkey]

163. For everyone who is being brought to tears by this:

on edit: I know how people around here love kitties, too

[The Witch]

174. I was good until I saw that!

:sob:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

164. She answered my e-mail right away - thanking me for my support.

She's right on the ball.

[AllyCat]

172. My God I think she is tearing up.

Brave, brave woman!

[in_cog_ni_to]

175. Start thread 2 PLEASE? I have Broadband and it's loading slow.

Thanks! :hi: Maybe start a new thread around 100 posts???

[cyberpj]

178. Will Pitt blog on PDA site (here) for those who can't get a stream:

http://blog.pdamerica.org/

[fla nocount]

180. "Premeditated murder" acknowledges Iraqi dead

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

181. "I was able to make it through an entire testimony...

...without using profanity. However, if anyone has a right to be angry, it's me...I hope this is the first step in bringing the lies to the light and bringing justice to those who can no longer speak for themselves."

:toast:

[faithnotgreed]

183. ray mcgovern is a great person. "anatomy of a lie"

picture of the lies

ray pointing out colin powell publicly stating pre 9/11 that iraq did not have wmds
and only a few months later (post 9/11) that we want war because of wmds

eta: "anatomy of a lie"

[AllyCat]

200. Supine press and flexible attitude towards the truth

Funny...if only it weren't so tragic. :cry:

[in_cog_ni_to]

185. Ray McGovern!!! He's showing a 45 sec. video of all the Bush LIES!

Whoa! This is GOOD!

[AllyCat]

192. Could you hear it? There was some noise in the background and

I couldn't hear on the computer.

[indy_azcat]

186. THREAD 2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3873457

[Chichiri]

187. DSM Hearing Thread 2 has been started

in GD

[AllyCat]

188. What is that horrible noise? I couldn't hear anything of what

Condoleeza lied.

[kaitykaity]

189. Can we get a new thread please???

Dialupper here.

[rodeodance]

195. talking of Cheney's lie 'we know know SH has wmd"

[Chichiri]

199. There is a DSM Hearing Thread 2 now in GD

[fla nocount]

193. Prevarications of Powell and Rice now......pre-war.....video

[rodeodance]

198. newsweek broke the story in spring of 2003--but it was surpressed. says

McGovern.

[rodeodance]

201. McGovern says it was the 'supine' press--to blame for the invasion-allow-

ed people like Cheney to blabber on about false threats.

[rodeodance]

203. whow--cheney making mult. visits to cia to 'fix' the intell. says McGovern

[rodeodance]

205. says the press laughed with the WH--in looking under the desks for wmd.

but moms are not laughing--after this big joke. boy, this is great!!

[rodeodance]

206. McGovern called them the DS MINUTES. He was great--choreographed

with the mom's testimony very well.

[alfredo]

196. Gold Star Mother is breaking my heart.

[jillan]

197. Did I just see Ted Kennedy in the background?

[Carla in Ca]

202. As always, right there in the fight

I LOVE that they showed the Powell/Rice videos...nail it!

[unhappycamper]

204. PLEASE USE THREAD 2 FOR POSTING NOW. THANKS.

[dogday]

207. Is there a woman Breast Feeding in the room?

[Moderator]

208. Locking

Locking per original poster's request