WI_DEM
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:00 AM
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Why is Bill Clinton flaunting his relationship with "Poppy" |
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I really think it has everything to do with '08 and trying to make Hillary appear less "liberal"--and appealing to "Independents" who love bi-partisanship.
But here are some of President Clinton's comments on "Larry King Live" and recently on Letterman he said pretty much the same thing about Poppy and the Bush's:
"I've always liked him" "I've always admired him" "His father was a distinguished senator from Connecticut." "I Think he's a genuinely good man. I like him and I like his wife and I like his family."
Not only that but the "Big Dawg" is going to spend a day and a half at Kennebunkport with the Bush's, no doubt playing golf and going for rides in Poppy's speed boat.
Do you think this will help Hillary in '08? or maybe Bill just really does like the Bush's.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:04 AM
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1. Poppy is the father Clinton never had... |
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and Clinton is the successful president son Poppy always wanted.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:05 AM
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:35 AM
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23. That is the only thing that can explain the goofy relationship |
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Bill, if he is a good democrat should despise poppy like the rest of us. Something is not right. Over and out. :mad:
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:06 AM
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3. I tend to believe Clinton has finally turned into a Republican |
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I mean many of his policies were already that way, but his sly smile and speaking style kept us off guard. All the while NAFTA and Welfare Reform passed and the Republicans got everything they wanted out of Clinton.
This just makes the flip official. Not a big surprise really. Especially when he was telling John Kerry to become anti-gay marriage during last year's election, which is a bigoted view of civil rights, and a Republican view of the World if there ever is one.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:13 AM
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:06 AM
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that he likes Bush a little better than Ken Starr.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:07 AM
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5. LOL....Clinton will go down with the ship. |
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I never for once suspected he was a progressive. He has never fooled me and always have known he was mister moneybags....If Kerry is too, that's just pretty sad. All of them need to go -------------->>>> :nuke:
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:07 AM
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:10 AM
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7. I totally disagree with Bill Clinton regarding the bush family... |
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Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 10:14 AM by Missy M
"poppy" is not a good man, nor is barbara a good woman. I cannot understand why Bill Clinton is doing this because I believe poppy was one of the people behind the troubles of Bill Clinton and the smearing he had to take. I don't think this will help Hillary in '08. Hillary is not a "liberal" in any sense of the word but I wish she was.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:12 AM
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9. I agree....Barbara is not a good man. n/t |
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:13 AM
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I guess I should have proof read.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:20 AM
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15. No you wrote it correctly. Don't change a thing. n/t |
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:25 AM
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16. I went from insulting the male of the species... |
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to insulting the female of the species. I guess with barbara its a no win situation.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:44 AM
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24. No better than her twin brother, J. Edgar Hoover. |
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:12 AM
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8. I've heard it may be the other way around... |
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No firm information either way.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:13 AM
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10. I think he is working on his image |
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more for his own future plans than for Hillary's. He wants to be Secretary of the United Nations so he is distancing himself from being too identified with either party.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:15 AM
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13. I dunno, but it hurts Big Dawg, in my eyes... |
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And he forgets (or refuses to see) that Poppy's dad Prescott was under investigation for Trading with the Enemy in WWII. The committee got spooked when their first subject up and died on them.
Prescott Bush was Hitler's banker.
Say it ain't So, Joe!
Geez, Big Dawg, why don't you just "Jump the Aisle"?
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:18 AM
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14. "Flaunting" Is YOUR Mischaracterization. But Go Right Ahead. There's |
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lots of DU'ers who love playing this assinine game.
Maybe Clinton is being 'politic'.
After all, he's a politician.
But then, precious few DU'ers have probably EVER held a responsible position that entailed working with adversaries.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:32 AM
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22. maybe it is a mischaracterization |
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Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 10:33 AM by WI_DEM
but if you read further than the headline I did say that I think it has alot to do with '08 and helping further Hillary's presidential run. It would be nice if for once when you respond to something you disagree with you don't have to criticize your fellow DUers; your latest example: "precious few DUers have probably EVER held a responsible position that entailed working with adversaries." But then you always know best--or think you do. If you think so little of DU'ers I'm surprised you spend as much time as you do here.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:27 AM
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17. Google: Mena CIA drugs smuggling Contras Clinton Bush |
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A reader inquires as to why Bill Clinton and Bush the Elder are so chummy these days. This is another case where just considering the political aspect of the news lets you down. A more helpful approach is to consider Clinton and Bush the heads of the two biggest political mobs in the country, a metaphor strengthened by a recent shot of the pair, both in shades, leaning back smugly in their chairs like a couple of big time dons. Sometimes the families work together; sometimes they fight it out.
America's course has been driven by mob politics since the Mafia helped Jack Kennedy get in the White House. Only two presidents have apparently been free of mob influence: Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Many of the most important events of our time reflect the influence of criminal forces - from the Mafia to corrupt big time bankers and local drug dealers:
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The relationship between the Bush and Clinton families goes back a long way. Here's a timeline:
1984 - Clinton bodyguard, Arkansas state trooper LD Brown, applies for a CIA opening. Governor Clinton gives him help on his application essay including making it more Reaganesque on the topic of the Nicaragua. According to Brown, he meets a CIA recruiter in Dallas whom he later identifies as former member of Vice President Bush's staff. On the recruiter's instruction, he meets with notorious drug dealer Barry Seal in a Little Rock restaurant. Joins Seal in flight to Honduras with a purported shipment of M16s and a return load of duffel bags. Brown gets $2,500 in small bills for the flight. Brown, concerned about the mission, consults with Clinton who says, "Oh, you can handle it, don't sweat it." On second flight, Brown finds cocaine in a duffel bag and again he seeks Clinton's counsel. Clinton says to the conservative Brown, "Your buddy, Bush, knows about it" and of the cocaine, "that's Lasater's deal."
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0502/S00155.htm
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:31 AM
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19. Thank you. The other night on Letterman when Clinton brought up |
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his days as Governor and how he liked Bu$h then made my stomach flip.
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Sat Jun-18-05 11:24 AM
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27. He said the same thing recently on Larry King as well |
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and I happened to channel surf by at the exact moment when Larry popped the question as to what was up with this apparent new friendship between Bill and the Bushies.
Bill immmediately went into spin mode on what a great guy Dubya was and how he had always liked him, Dubya had dedicated years to public service, yada, yada, yada.
I almost put my foot through the TV screen and Bill's lying face.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:31 AM
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18. For God's Sake, he is just trying to be nice! They are working together |
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on Tsunami Relief. Do people want Clinton to start going off on the Bush's when he is working with Bush Sr.? They are trying to help hundreds of thousands who were left homeless by the Tsunami and if Clinton started ripping into Bush Sr's. son right now how could they work together to help all those people????? Do you know how bad that would look? I was extremely impressed with how gracious Clinton was and people forget he was ALWAYS that way!!!! He is doing a fantastic job working hard to help people in Asia right now. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt.
Clinton's job right now is to help thousands of homeless people and to get along with Bush Sr. It's not to be Howard Dean!
I think Clinton just looks for the good in all people. He is a nice guy. He certainly wants to get along with Bush Sr. while they are working together.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:31 AM
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20. I'm afraid that the "Big Dog" has become a "Lap Dog". |
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And that's not good for America.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:32 AM
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21. I agree with Mike Malloy |
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Clinton was the best republican president we ever had.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:46 AM
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25. Because Clinton is and always was a moderate republican. |
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Who was a bit of a warmonger himself.
Ideologically, he's actually pretty close to POS Poppy. I don't think I need to re-hash all the right-wing crap he passed while in office.
But the right hated Clinton the same reason Limbaugh used to rag on Poppy for not taking over Iraq and reneging on his "Read My Lips" pledge. There is no such thing as right-wing enough for them.
They worship Bush because he's the most extremist right-wing despot we've ever had, but they insist that he's a "moderate", or even a "liberal", because he expanded the government and passed that horrible prescription drug "benefit".
Clinton can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. He has consistently tried to prop up this administration's lousy case for war, in part to cover for his wife's despicable IWR vote.
I no longer have any tolerance left for DINO bullcrap. Clinton used his considerable charm and intelligence to nearly destroy the party, and his ilk are still at it.
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Sat Jun-18-05 10:48 AM
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26. who knows, maybe it's because they have something in common |
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They know what it's like to be President and all that goes with the job.
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Sat Jun-18-05 11:31 AM
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28. To make Republicans feel stupid for hating him so much |
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And to make Republicans think twice next time their leaders ask them to engage in a jihad against a good Democrat.
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Sat Jun-18-05 12:04 PM
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29. Maybe he's being threatened. Like anthrax and the liberals in congress |
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Both Chelsea and Hillary have fainted in public. Now what are the chances of this. Then Clinton suffers exhaustion while in India. there's something sinister in play here__question is, WHAT??
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Sat Jun-18-05 12:20 PM
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Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 12:25 PM by Algorem
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