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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:06 AM
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The US has brought charges against 4 of 520 prisoners held in Guantanamo !

THE WORLD WATCHES AS U.S. AVOIDS THE SHAMEFUL GLARE By Georgie Anne Geyer
Fri Jun 17, 5:42 PM ET


WASHINGTON -- Last week I was in my hometown, Chicago, where I spoke with some of the famously political Daleys about the first mayor of the family, Mayor Richard J. Daley. One of the more colorful politicians of Chicago's Technicolor civic culture, he was given to voicing memorable words.

One of the family recalled the elder Mayor Daley's consistent opposition to the Vietnam War, a stance that was unusual in his time and certainly among his working-class constituents. The no-nonsense mayor told President Lyndon B. Johnson in no uncertain terms to get out: "When you're dealt a bad hand," Daley was quoted as saying, "get out of the game."

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The United States has brought charges against only four of the 520 prisoners still held in Guantanamo. I, at least, am not clear on how many of the Gitmo prisoners have genuine cases against them, but we do know that from 80 percent to 90 percent of the Abu Ghraib prisoners are now declared to have been innocent men. We also know that this administration's obsession with the war on terror has led them to turn their backs on many of our most precious values: the rights of even prisoners under the law, the traditional American ban against torture, and our adherence to the Geneva Accords, which were originally hammered out to protect our own soldiers and to gradually introduce and enforce civilized norms of warfare to the rest of the world.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucgg/20050617/cm_ucgg/theworldwatchesasusavoidstheshamefulglare/nc:742


Seems like we have some explaining to do to the world.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:10 AM
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1. These are the people McCain calls "Terrible killers and the worst kind of
humanity".

Well, that's FOUR...how about the other 516, John?

You'd think that as a former POW, he'd have a bone to pick against 'wrongful imprisonment".
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:25 AM
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2. and we have had them for sometime... and they can't be there for
no reason...so why haven't we "tried them"?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:11 AM
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7. Zactly...think up some charges, invent some crimes...
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 11:13 AM by Hobarticus
But either shit or get off the prosecutorial pot, and let them go!

Keeping them for intel? Bullshit. If we ain't got any juicy tidbits out of them by now, chances are we won't get any. There's little proof that most of these "prisoners" aren't guilty of little more than just happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or worse, got fingered by a rival for blood money.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:30 AM
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3. Administration officials keep claiming ...
... that in addition to these people being "killers" and"terrorists", that they are providing useful intelligence to the U.S.

This claim is absolutely unbelievable. Aside from any information gathered through abusive techniques, the fact that such information would be three years old is enough to make it useless.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:40 AM
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4. 3 year old information IS useless!
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:41 AM by xxqqqzme
As well as the crap they keep spewing about the '20th' hijacker having information about subsequent attacks. Why would he know that? IF he was a hijacker, he would have died on 9/11 - and NOT be around 2 participate in any future attack so why would he have ANY info????

They must think we R all a stupid as they R.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:43 AM
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5. quick question - can we even hold w/o charging?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:13 AM
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8. quick answer; not legally
But then, America no longer believes in laws.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:45 AM
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9. how true -- we are in Bushworld now.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:11 AM
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6. Those guys have been down there for years. How could they
possibly have any information that would be of current value?
Let them go home. Shut down Guantanamo.
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