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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:43 PM
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When did you stop trusting the Mainstream Media?
For me, it happened when they all decided to collectively roll over for Bush's Iraq Junta, and started unabashedly cheerleading for war, rather than critically examining the alleged justification for it.

I probably should have known before, but after that, I knew the Corporate Media was a friend of the power establishment and not to be trusted.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:45 PM
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1. The leadup to the war
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:46 PM
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2. when they didn't investagate the election machine fraud in November
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 04:48 PM by kansasblue
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:47 PM
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3. Shortly after the Election was stolen (again)
and with all the evidence no one covered it!
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:47 PM
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4. 1982 when the Arms for Hostages info was leaked and nothing happened.
Good 'ol Ronald Reagan. Selling out America for power. That traitor should have been tried as a traitor by 1986, but nobody knew about it so nobody cared. Why? The MSM were too incompetant to pick it up.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:47 PM
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5. 1/2002 Coronation for the chimp
When I saw stuff on C-span that never made it to the MSM I knew. Even more than during the election when they battered Gore and gave the simian regular blow-jobs.

Julie
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:48 PM
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6. 1981 when PATCO went on strike. I realized then that the media
writes what the government wants it to write, regardless of the truth.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:48 PM
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7. Iran-Contra
drove the nail in teh coffin

there has been no indpendent media in Murka since.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:48 PM
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8. Back in the 80's when the reported a fairly minor pot bust as having
a street value of hundreds of thousands of dollars (when I knew damn well it was only worth 5 or 10 thousand.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:48 PM
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9. After Theft of 2000 Election
Because the greedy millionaire GOP bosses of media wanted so badly to install Bush so more media conslodation would open up. They were silent then and have been ever since.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:50 PM
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10. In 2000 when they GAVE the election to Bush.
I started suspecting them when it was Clinton/Monica 24/7, they would show polls that said stuff like 75% of America is sick of hearing about it, but did that shut them the fuck up? Hell no it was "news." .

In 2001 I sat with my husband, and two of my best friends and we talked about how it was going to be a Bush lovefest until 2004.

I hate being right sometimes. But in 2000, I knew. I was so disappointed in the Screw York Times and CNN, I'm planning a millions against the media march just to tell them off. Feb. 1, 2006 in NY, DC, LA, Miami, Atlanta, and Chicago be there or enjoy the future propaganda.

If you are interested in helping please PM me, hopefully I'll have a barebones site up soon.

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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:51 PM
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11. 94 elections
they acted as if the entire country had just elected newt as president

then the 96 presidentail race furthered my cynicism
i was 19 at the time, and the way they gave gop candidates so much coverage in the primaries did it for me. sure, bill was unopposed, but the way the msm reported it, you'd think the rw positions on the issues were the only ones that mattered.

then, ignoring corporate globalization, WTo, nader, and the florida theft only added to my tuning out
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:53 PM
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12. when I volunteered for the Kucinich Campaign
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:53 PM
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13. Day One of Clinton's Administration
was where it seemed something was wrong with our media. And, I was coming off a time when distrusting government and the growth of the new movement for regulations favoring Consumers and not the Corporatists was still active. Also women's movemnt and lessons learned from Vietnam were driving coverage with much more discussion.

When Clinton came into office there seemed to be an abrupt shift in the media. It's when I remember the "attack machine" started and the rise of the Right Wing Think tanks like Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute started driving the news.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:21 PM
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21. Same for me.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 05:35 PM by Senior citizen
No matter what Ray-gun did, the media treated him with respect, claiming that it was respect for the office of the presidency. The day Big Dog was elected, PBS referred to him as "Mr. Clinton," whereas they had always said, "President Ray-Gun," and the contrast was horrifying. And for the next eight years, I never once heard them say the words "President" and "Clinton" juxtaposed. And the rest of the media was even worse than PBS. Soon afterwards I bought a short-wave radio and started listening to news from the free world like any freedom-loving person in an occupied country.

On edit: Somehow I haven't conveyed the horror I felt at the time. When all those people in the Ray-Gun administration were under indictment, it was still a respectful, "President Ray-Gun," on the media--never "Mr. Ray-Gun," as that wouldn't have been respectful. I knew Clinton wasn't a liberal and I didn't expect much from him, but I'd given my lesser-of-two-evils vote to him. So when I heard the radio say, "Mr. Clinton," I jumped up and screamed (I lived alone on a boat, so there was nobody to disturb), "He's the President! He's OUR President. He just got elected! What happened to respect for the office of the President? Don't you accept him as President?" and much more. Every time I heard it I screamed at the radio. I was so angry it is a wonder I didn't dump the radio in the bay. That was it for me. And it was PBS.



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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 PM
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14. November 2000
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 PM
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15. Early 70s when they decided to label everyone with a brain a commie
pinko because we could see that Viet Nam was an immoral, obscene, unwinnable fiasco.

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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 PM
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16. The lead up to the war started giving me red flags, but I'm slow
I didn't lop them off until the day after the elections. When they had such lousy coverage of how the hell shrub won when there was Moveon and ACT and the polls were going the other way. Then they didn't follow up. Then I learned about black box voting and was appalled. Then I learned about Ohio and the voting lines and Blackwell.

That's when I knew that we didn't have a Democracy any more. It was really depressing. Fortunately a friend told me about Air America and the Randi Rhodes blog told me about DU. So I haven't imploded yet. However, I have found that for the first time in my life I HATE republicans. Anybody who supports this president is an idiot. I don't want to talk to them. I feel they are truly traitors. McCain disappointed me. Powell really disappointed me. There are no good Republicans anymore.

I hope some day this administration and the MSM who support them will go on trial.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:00 PM
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17. 2000 election, lived in Palm Beach County at the time
And I knew that they were not telling the truth about what was going on down there at the time. People had been complaining all through the day that the voting machines were not working properly and that there was chaos at LaPore's office trying to get in touch with her to deal with the problems throughout the county.
The media would just parrot the lies that were coming out of the Bush campaign headquarters etc. It was amazing to me because we were the story and to see how it was being portrayed all over the country that we were just a bunch of idiots who couldn't figure out a ballot and voting machine.

After that I didn't trust another story that came out of their mouths.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:02 PM
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18. the Lewinsky thang

The right wing sanctimony and lying was beyond countenancing.

I know a charade. I know lying for a greater good. I know lying for love and out of shame.

That lying was just because they felt they could get away with it. Because they wanted to.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:05 PM
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31. Seconded
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:05 PM
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19. The thievery of the 2000 election.
When I read what they did with Greg Palast's report on the purged voters I flipped out. It was APPALLING. I knew then that they couldn't be trusted. I tuned in during the primaries, but THAT was horrid too! I watch only C-SPAN now and listen to Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:08 PM
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20. When I realized they were helping the cover-up of JFK's murder
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 05:09 PM by ailsagirl
Their official stance is still that "Oswald acted alone."

Come ON!!!!!

:spank:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:25 PM
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22. December 12, 2000
The supposed MSM 'watchdogs' knew the fix was in and let it happen anyway.
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SlightlyWorried Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:38 PM
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23. The 2000 presidential debates
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:24 PM by SlightlyWorried
When the MSM said that "W" won. That was the most blatant spin in the face of reality I had ever seen that it woke me up. I then went over the Clinton years in my mind and how the media had been incessant in their coverage of Monica and Whitewater. I remembered how they had crushed health care reform. It totally changed how I would watch the coverage of the lead up to the war in Iraq.

For me they stretched too far with the 2000 debate and I have never, and will never, look at them with the same innocence I once had.
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:58 PM
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28. my turning point also
The reporting on the Bush/Gore debates was completely incredulous. I have not watched tv "news" since and rarely look at a corporate newspaper.

Propoganda all and no longer welcome in my home.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:14 PM
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33. Hi SlightlyWorried!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SlightlyWorried Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:25 PM
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35. Howdy!
Thanks for the welcome.

Getting back to the topic at hand I honestly do not see how the democrats will ever get any type of power with the media being blatantly hostile. I do not know if there is a way out.


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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:39 PM
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24. Me too. It was Iraq.
They changed the policy from defense to offense...from containment to imperialism. No one said anything.

There is no liberal media, only corporations spewing limited information, diversions and/or brazen propraganda.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:44 PM
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25. Big Doubts During War Lead-Up, 100% On 11/2/2004 n/t
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:45 PM
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26. Never did trust them
My dad always taught me not to trust that the media reported the truth. He always said that everyone has a point of view and everyone has an agenda - don't trust the media to tell you anything except what is in their own best interest. My dad is a long-time republican, but this was good advice.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:47 PM
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27. When Fairness Doctrine was repealed and right wing radio was born
n/t
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:03 PM
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29. In the year 2000
When The Gore versus Bush campgain was well underway, and CNN's web page always had headlines with Bush's name first, followed by Gore's, and the Bush story was always positive and the Gore's stories were always negative.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:04 PM
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30. When they marginalized, even ridiculed, the..
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:08 PM by mvd
protestors at Shrub's 2001 Coronation. Of course, I had been suspicious before then. When Clinton won in 1992, Peter Jennings announced it like the world was going to end as a result. Then, I hated the way they vilified Clinton - but I chalked it up to a media that had gone tabloid. But then, Bush's drunk driving arrest was hidden until the last moment! And any Bush bumbling gets treated like it's charming or something. While every Gore mannerism was analyzed. Also, the "get over it"s after Gore won were appalling.

I stopped watching altogether after their cheerleading for the Iraq war. I could go on and on about corporate media outrages.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:06 PM
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32. 2000 election
When they made a mockery out of a stolen election, I knew.

Lead-up to Iraq war was the cherry on top.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:15 PM
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34. September 11, 2001
I felt like they treated Bush with kid gloves from that day forward.
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