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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:54 AM
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To those Discovery Channel voters for Reagan: See his true greatness
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 12:59 AM by MrScorpio
That of a bloody mass murderer




>>Eventually the insurgency was quelled, and many U.S. conservatives consider the policy to have been a success—despite the deaths of innocent civilians and the subsequent Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages scandal. (Among the current administration officials who dealt with Central America back then is John Negroponte, who is today the U.S. ambassador to Iraq. Under Reagan, he was ambassador to Honduras. There is no evidence, however, that Negroponte knew anything about the Salvadoran death squads or the Iran-Contra scandal at the time. The Iraq ambassador, in a phone call to NEWSWEEK on Jan. 10, said he was not involved in military strategy in Iraq. He called the insertion of his name into this report "utterly gratuitous.")<<

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

>>El Mozote massacre
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The El Mozote Massacre took place in the village of El Mozote, in Morazán department, El Salvador, on December 11, 1981, when Salvadoran armed forces slaughtered an estimated 900 civilians in an anti-guerrilla campaign. It is thought to be the worst such atrocity in modern Latin American history.
The massacre was both a low point and a turning point in the bitter civil war that ravaged this Central American country between the late 1970s and early 1990s. As news of the massacre slowly emerged, the Reagan administration in the United States dismissed it as FMLN propaganda because it seriously undermined efforts by the U.S. government to bolster the human rights image of the Salvadoran government, which the US was supporting with large amounts of military aid. Subsequently, however, the details of the massacre were verified, raising new doubts about American Cold War-driven policy toward the chaotic country.

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The massacre was both a low point and a turning point in the bitter civil war that ravaged this Central American country between the late 1970s and early 1990s. As news of the massacre slowly emerged, the Reagan administration in the United States dismissed it as FMLN propaganda because it seriously undermined efforts by the U.S. government to bolster the human rights image of the Salvadoran government, which the US was supporting with large amounts of military aid. Subsequently, however, the details of the massacre were verified, raising new doubts about American Cold War-driven policy toward the chaotic country.<<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Mozote_massacre

>>Legacy of Civil Wars
In Central America, Reagan Remains A Polarizing Figure

By Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, June 10, 2004; Page A08

SAN SALVADOR -- Gerson Martinez, a rebel leader in the 1980s, remembers Ronald Reagan as the man who funneled $1 million a day to a repressive and often brutal Salvadoran government whose thugs and death squads killed thousands of people, including the mother of his two children.<<

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29546-2004Jun9.html

>>After the 1982 coup that brought Rios Mont to power, U.S. Ambassador Frederic C. Chapin said Guatemala "has come out of the darkness and into the light." President Reagan claimed Mont was given "a bum rap" by human rights groups, and that he was cleaning up problems inherited from his predecessor, General Romeo Lucas Garcia. Ironically, Garcia had given $500,000 to Reagan's 1980 campaign, and his henchman, Mario Sandoval Alarcon, the "Godfather" of Central American death squads, was a guest at Reagan's first inaugural celebration. Sandoval proudly calls his National Liberation Movement "the party of organized violence."<<

http://home.iprimus.com.au/korob/fdtcards/CentralAmerica.html

>> "Tens of thousands of innocent people were killed in Central America for no valid reason. Reagan appointees like Jeane Kirkpatrick condoned the murder of American citizens by the Reagan-backed death squads. His administration purged the State Department of competent professional diplomats, while advancing the careers of ideologues and extremists, many of whom recently lied to us about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. John Negroponte, George W. Bush's forthcoming proconsul in Iraq, got his start running the Reagan contra war in Central America, which led to the Iran-contra scandal." "We should also not forget that, under Reagan, the U.S. indirectly supported the Khmer Rouge insurgency in Cambodia. If that wasn't support for evil, I don't know what was," said Allman. The Reagan administration also welcomed Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran, and struggled hard to keep Saddam in power when it seemed he might lose to Iran. Reagan's blunders in the Middle East laid the groundwork for two Gulf wars, including the current quagmire in which America finds itself in Iraq. "Ronald Reagan's claim to success in foreign policy," Allman concluded, "rests on the childish, ethnocentric notion that the Berlin Wall fell because he told it to. The truth is, communism destroyed itself with the help of Mikhail Gorbachev. The fall of communism gave America the chance to adjust its strategic vision -- and military spending -- to the world's new realities, including globalization and Third World discontent. "Instead," says Allman, "Reagan charmed America with a cartoon version of the world and America's place in it that paved the way for the excesses of George W. Bush."<<

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=7648&fcategory_desc=Government%20Lies%20and%20Deception


There's a lot more where that came from
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:56 AM
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1. george w. bush, "the giggling murderer." reagan, "the smiling murderer."
They can wear white hats but their boots are still bloody.

Rest in pieces, ronnie reagan.

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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:11 AM
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2. the second worst president ever behind chimpy the wonder boy
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:23 AM
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3. I fear they have the same thing going on in Venezuela........
the US was behind the coup attempt there in 2002 and are doing a lot of saber rattling now. Why? I believe it's because Exxon is pissed that Venezuela's democratically elected President Hugo Chavez raised the royalty rate that Exxon was paying Venezuela for their crude oil from the usual 1% to 26%, taking this money and building schools, roads, and providing cheap food for the poorest of the poor in the country.
Dos Bush need any reason for regime change in Venezuela other than that his pals at Exxon are pissed?
We need to really keep an eye out here. I fear GW is going to classify Venezuela as a "gathering threat" to the US any day now.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:31 AM
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4. It's the "UNITED FRUIT" model
I'm sure that it's in one of Condi's file cabinets someplace.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:48 AM
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5. If Afghanis like Osama were trained under Reagan's rule by the US
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 01:49 AM by gatorboy
Only to attack us on 9/11...Wouldn't that make him the worst President?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:51 AM
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6. Reagan was evil
He personified evil's banality
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:06 AM
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7. yes, evil, but I thought he should have been put on Mt Rushmore..
...it would have been fun to see if he could find his way back.
(I've pissed off a lot of pukes with that)
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