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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:15 PM
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Reagan voted 'greatest American'
<<SNIP>>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4631421.stm

Reagan voted 'greatest American'
Former US President Ronald Reagan has been voted the "greatest American" of all time by his fellow citizens.
Mr Reagan, who died last year aged 93, topped a list of 10 contenders, which featured six former presidents.

He edged out Abraham Lincoln, who abolished slavery, and civil rights leader Martin Luther King.

Some of the most notable names of US history such as Albert Einstein and Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the Moon, did not make the top 10

....

Top 10 greatest Americans
1 Ronald Reagan
2 Abraham Lincoln
3 Martin Luther King
4 George Washington
5 Benjamin Franklin
6 George W Bush
7 Bill Clinton
8 Elvis Presley
9 Oprah Winfrey
10 Franklin D Roosevelt

More than 2.4 million Americans cast their vote by phone, text or e-mail in the poll, organised by the Discovery Channel and AOL.

<</SNIP>>
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:16 PM
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1. Sorry, I can't believe those results
Too bizarre.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:41 PM
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16. I was in CA when they planted the corpse.
I wanted to see if he was really dead, but it was all private.

He was so EVIL I had to try and make sure he was dead, and not like Dracula, arising when the SUN went down.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:17 PM
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2. Absurd.
But hey, if Oprah beat out Einstein and Elvis beat out Roosevelt...
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:20 PM
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3. Reagan would be on my list of worst americans.
Throw in Nixon, Bush Senior, and the current full adminsitration.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:20 PM
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4. The weirdest part
is that George W Bush beat Elvis. Who are these morons?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:20 PM
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5. At last the truth is known!!!!
This country would be NOWHERE without Ronald Reagan, the greatest President, nay, the greatest MAN in U.S. History!!!!!!

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

All Hail Ronny Reagan!!!

Pffft on the founding fathers! They didn't have the BALLS to overspend $4,000,000,000,000.00 in 12 years!

Neil Armstrong GIVE ME A F*CKING BREAK!!! Of course he didn't make the top 10!!! Did he EVER even tell Gorbachev to tear down ANYTHING???

Pffffffffft!!!

And oh, if Lincoln was such a great American why the HELL didn't his zombie corpse come back and prevent September 11???

Feh on all the people who didn't vote for Ronnie for BEST HUMAN BEING EVER!!!

Thomas Jefferson? Who the hell is he?

david
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:22 PM
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6. Ironic that Thomas Jefferson
Who was obviouly the most important figure in shaping the bill of rights and much of the constitution, was not included in the top 10 list (although 6 very powerful presidents were) and was beaten out by Elvis.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:23 PM
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7. Even if Reagan didn't make the list ...
... it's unbelievable.

I mean, Elvis? Oprah? They're fine people, but among the "greatest"? I think not.

--p!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:24 PM
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bogus bogus bogus
just shows you how important corporate media propaganda is. the sheeple, comprising somewhat less than half of the population, do what they are told. reaganomics, trickledown?...shur i'll buy that(sarcasm off) more like trickle up.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:24 PM
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8. I tried to vote several times...
and couldn't get the page to load properly. Needless to say, I wouldn't have voted for Raygun.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:29 PM
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9. What a bag of crap.
Maybe if I sit down and think real real hard and drink lots and lots of that odd tasting Kool-aid, I'll understand why Reagan was number one. Not to mention, understand why chimpy was six.
Greatest American, INDEED!!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:44 PM
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18. Maybe some of those people never heard of
Thomas Jefferson. I'm serious.

A long time ago, someone (I can't remember) took a survey in the U.S. Lots of door-to-door. Many people living in America had never heard of Christopher Columbus. There were some who had never heard of Shakespeare.

So, maybe there are some who never heard of Thomas Jefferson. That wouldn't stop them from voting.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:30 PM
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10. its a freaky popularity contest among those who bothered to watch it.
pretty pointless really.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:30 PM
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11. RayGun was the "Greatest Sack of American Shit" ever
those "voting numbers" don't mean a single thing -

Here's an interesting biography of the nasty fraud:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/ronald-reagan/
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cawe24 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:32 PM
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12. Gotta make you wonder...
ELVIS is in the top 10 for greatest Americans?!!? What did he do for the country? Make a crap pile of money? Check. Anything else...hmmmm, no. Gave Dr. Nick a job, so there is that...

This really reinforces the bell curve representing IQ - most people are at 100, and there are a whole bunch under 100 too.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:17 PM
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28. Actually, yes, Elvis did
do stuff for the country. He was quite generous with his contributions to various charities and down-on-their-luck individuals and families, but, I agree, not to the extent of being a "greatest American."
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:54 PM
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31. Hi cawe24!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:35 PM
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13. Pffffft. This was a bogus non-sampled poll.
In other words, it's fake news.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:36 PM
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14. Only because the progressive vote was split
Reagan was the only candidate besides GWB the neocons and RW had to vote for. Combine the votes for MLK, Lincoln, Clinton, Roosevelt et al and Reagan was a mere also-ran.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:36 PM
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15. Like this has any sort of legitimacy.
The gipper was one of the worst presidents of all time. He never served in the military. He doesn't even finish in the top 1000 as far as I'm concerned.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:42 PM
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17. Churchill Greatest Briton; Douglas Greatest Canadian
British Top Ten:

1. Churchill
2. Brunel
3. Diana
4. Darwin
5. Shakespeare
6. Newton
7. Lennon
8. Elizabeth I
9. Nelson
10. Cromwell

Canadian Top Ten:

1. Tommy Douglas
2. Terry Fox
3. Pierre Trudeau
4. Sir Frederick Banting
5. David Suzuki
6. Lester Pearson
7. Don Cherry
8. Sir John A Macdonald
9. Alexander Graham Bell
10. Wayne Gretzky
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:46 PM
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20. Oh, help! Apparently those who voted had to have someone read the choices
to them! If they were readers themselves they couldn't have possibly scared us like this.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:20 PM
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29. A socialist for Canada and reagonomics for the US
I guess it kind of nails the differences between our respective countries.

<snip> While Tommy Douglas was the premier of Saskatchewan he introduced paved roads, sewage systems and power to most farmers and managed to reduce the provincial debt by $20 million. Over the next 18 years he weathered Communist fear campaigns and a province-wide doctor's strike. Elected to five terms, he introduced Saskatchewan residents to car insurance, labour reforms and his long-standing dream of universal Medicare.

<snip> Tommy Douglas's legacy as a social policy innovator lives on. Social welfare, universal Medicare, old age pensions and mothers' allowances -- Douglas helped keep these ideas, and many more, watching as more established political parties eventually came to accept these once-radical ideas as their own.

http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/douglas-tommy.html

Tommy Douglas, the great Canadian socialist. Has anything good for the US or indeed the world come out of Reaganomics... anyone?

PS.
Its definitely bogus. Chimpy* could not have beat out Clinton, Oprah and Elvis. Get real!
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:45 PM
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19. 'raygun'--greatest?
What a joke?We definitely live in a country full of idiots and morons!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:51 PM
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21. Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob
Essential reading:

Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob, by Dan E. Moldea (http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=moldea&y=0&tn=Dark+Victory&x=0&sortby=1)
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:52 PM
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22. Puke! NT
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:54 PM
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23. Oprah Winfrey ? Pathetic... our civilization is dead
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:00 PM
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24. This isn't breaking news
Although the date is today's date, this occured on Sunday
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AUYellowDog Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:09 PM
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25. Elvins and Oprah beating FDR? WTF????? n/t
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:11 PM
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26. piss on reagan
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:16 PM
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27. I've got just one question
is there a paper trail?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:43 PM
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30. Worst. List. Ever.
To those who put Mr. Peepers at #6 over FDR - I challenge you to name ONE thing the Commander In Cheat has done right in his entire life. NAME ONE. Dick Nixon, as big of an asshole as he was, should be on that list before Ronald Treason and Lancelot Link.

NEVER let AOL users vote. I think that they just voted for people like Reagan, Oprah and Bush because of either mainstream name recognition, lack of historical knowledge, or their hatred of anyone who accomplished something that HELPED the country . . . especially if they weren't to the right of Barry Goldwater.
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